Irresponsible dog owners
I'm not one to normally moan about dogs as I've got 3 Westies,However there appears to be more and more dog owners who let their dogs constantly bark, I'm sorry but naughty naughty boy isn't just good enough. Dog owners need to respect those members who don't have pets and come away for peace and quite. So if your dog constantly barks please get a grip it isn't hard to train either the owner or the dog.
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It's a conspiracy, Husky, or maybe people in need of a good debate.
I get a tad fed up with reading the same old when it's something that should be addressed at the time rather than complaining here. Like the supposed poo 'problem', I've not encountered any issues on site and, if I did, I'd speak to the owners or the warden.
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It's not a conspiracy, and people should not have to approach owners and wardens, it's shear blxxdy discourtesy by the Braindeads allowing their dogs to spoil sites and the peace of others. It should not come to the camper or the warden to have to educate these people about site rules.
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There is a thread running about the ability to use constructive argument in a debate. Just because it's a problem there should be no need to fling around abuse. It creates tension then aggression then the thread is shut down.
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Well, Indoors, quite by chance I came across something Rowena posted two years ago so it seems that, despite your rather forthright assertions, talking to the warden is the correct course of action.
"If on a Club Site and you witness an issue, the best course of action is always to report to the warden on site at the time. They can then action whilst the person you have concerns about is still on site. If you don’t report at the time, we may not know who the member was or be able to speak to them regarding The Club rules."
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This problem is not just 'perceived' but actual.
Many sites I have been on this year have had their share of very well behaved dogs.
However, there have been a similar number of yappy dogs whose owners seem incapable of controlling. Mostly small dogs.
Well trained dogs should not bark and yap everytime someone or another dog walks past them. If they do the owners should stop the barking and yapping, but so often they appear to be incapable of doing so.
I have also noticed that it is no longer sufficient to have just one dog, but 2, 3, 4 or more! Why?
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Why? Because they choose to.
So, what did you do about the problem, Simon?
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I have been to a large number of club sites over the last year (and many years before) and I've never come across the 'problems' that are being discussed on this and other threads. There does appear to be people posting to create a debate on dogs and the number of them.
PS I don't have a dog
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Oh yes indeed but that's what dog's do isn't it? Me walking by and a dog barks is not a problem, at least to me.
I meant in the quantity that these threads seem to indicate.
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Some breeds are naturally vocal, terriers for example and it can be very difficult to train it out of them. These dogs may be highly trained in all other aspects but will still yap, especially when restrained on a tether.
In most cases of a yapping dog, it isn’t aggression but is often frustration because the dog wants to get nearer to the other dog or person, to greet them
It takes a lot of patience and plenty of positive Re enforcement to remove this trait but it can be done. However, there are many owners who just plain don’t know how to do it, simply shouting over a dog that is barking, telling it to be quiet will never work and will usually make matters worse.
Ive witnessed plenty of these dogs and their owners on site and I fully understand why some get very annoyed by the noise. I agree it has to be controlled but sadly, without educating these people and therefore the dogs, it’ll unfortunately never stop.
Dogs use barking to try and communicate something so it is often impossible for some to be completely quiet. My WCS is highly trained and has done some gunwork, where she’s not allowed to ever bark or she’ll be kicked off the shoot, however she sometimes barks at passing children on scooters. Something in her past that I’m unaware of has spooked her and this is why she does it. I either try and distract her or remove her from the situation, as a last resort when on site, i’ll put the windbreak up to hide her view of the site road. Half an hour chasing a ball in the dog walk area works too, tire her out
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In life you will always get selfish, obnoxious or thoughtless people who don't think rules apply to them.
Some of these will be C&MC members.
Some will apparently drive too fast.
Some will dare to turn up early on site.
Some will have children who want to play and make a noise.
Some will play music or talk loudly, especially when using a mobile phone.
Some leave the on site facilities in a mess.
Some will be dog owners who don't or can't control their dogs or can't be bothered to clean up after them.
Some like to post in this forum views that are contentious, even when it's yet another post about the same subject.
My apologies if I have left any other pet hate that people complain about off the list.
Fortunately most people are decent ordinary folk who cause little or no offence. The rest I don't really care about as I'm on a site for a number of days and either they or I will be moving soon. Enjoy your holidays.
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Yes agree, and out of 24 hours on site, I'm asleep for about 10, and out off site for a minimum of 5 hours each day! The rest is spent dozing or drinking
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I'm getting a sense of deja vu as this thread seems to mirror the one Ro closed yesterday.
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you should start your shop Husky. I noticed that our local butcher has started taking bets. He's a smallish chap and he had some lovely meat hanging up above behind him and when I asked if he would cut me some he declined saying the steaks were too high for him.
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There is no chance that dog owners here will admit that dogs do create friction on sites. In their opinion It is up to the aggrieved to take responsibility and not the owners. THeir pooch can do no wrong and those affected should go to other sites. That's the theme on all dog related posts here.
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There is also no chance that those who are anti dog, will on the rare occasion that there is a problem that has upset them, do anything about it at the time by contacting the site staff,but will just moan on here or in a site review or on leaving will leave a negative comment in the site comments book
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upto nine hours a day drinking or dozing.....?
your avatar seems to confirm this impression....
no wonder you dont hear the dogs barking
ps....note the smilie....apparently this exonerates any post from being personal or confrontational.
its a leg pull......OK?
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didnt one poster recently say that, after bringing an incident to the attention of the warden, they were told that the policy was 'non-confrontational', ie the 'offender' wouldnt be spoken to.
so what os a complainant supposed to do, if attempting to resolve the issue immediately by those 'in authority' is (pretty much) dismissed out of hand?
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I have just had 5 nights on a very good commercial site. I did see two dogs on site. I have just moved to a Club site and was immediately greeted by a yapping dog and I have seen at least one owner with three. It is all quiet this morning and the night was peaceful. Club sites do seem to be a magnet for dog owners.
peedee
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I'm the owner of a well trained dog which gives us hours of pleasure.
Do I have Rose Tinted specs about dogs or dog owners ----- NO.
(IMO - There are no bad dogs just bad owners )
I have seen incompetent owners allowing their dogs to behave exactly in the manner many people have voiced concern about on this forum.
Why then is any member who dares to bring bad dog owners behavior into a discussion, immediately vilified and insulted.
It's a discussion - Just discuss in a friendly and adult manner.
K
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It was dog ownership and the difficulty and expense of holiday boarding that led us into caravanning because the site fees are about the same as holiday boarding fees. So we effectively now pay for the dog to pitch up whilst we come for free.
I was on a site two weeks ago where a dog could be heard barking almost constantly, even I as a dog owner I very soon tired of it.
So while walking my dog around the site I headed towards the wardens office to file a complaint. It was during this short walk that I realised that the culprit wasn't on the site but a farm about three fields away.
Just as well as it could have been very embarrassing if I had reached the warden first.0
