Knaresborough - observations
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Knaresborough CMC site is ideally situated close to the town, which has many cafe's and restaurants. So there is no issue with not using the on-site Bistro, if you want an alternative. .
In case customers want to leave their dogs unattended in their van when going to the on-site bistro. The CMC had a rule that no dogs should be left unattended in this way on any site, perhaps H/Office could clarify if this is still applicable.
K
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Unfortunately this is a growing problem, but some people like eating in a kennel.
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You really have a problem with dogs, don't you
I'll ask the question again as you never answered it in another post. According to your profile your over 100 years old. If that's true, well done you must be the oldest member on here
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And my two. But because they are well behaved they put up with it
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Dogs are not a problem, it is the owners of the animals,please do not comeback and say it is a minority of owners which cause the problems because that minority are gaining numbers and will soon be the majority 😡
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How wrong you are
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- Yayyyy extra seats for us....and our dog
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Judging by some of the comments on here, it just shows how selfish (both sides of the discussion) we as a society have become. If someone says they don't like the idea of dogs in restaurants why not just accept that and move on.
If I walk into a restaurant and there are dogs there I walk out, if they are in the bar then no problem. Its like in Germany, walk in to a restaurant and folk are smoking, we go elsewhere, its call choice
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I agree with this, as you know I have 2 dogs, Most places we go to eat in when were out or away with them have 2 areas for customers with dogs and one, normally carpeted, for other dinners. That's how it should be in my book.
What I don't liked are single minded, opinionated posters making comments like " some people like eating in kennels" It's dam Rude
Also like you we vote with our feet. If we go somewhere and don't like the look of it, for any reason, we just turn and leave. We don't expect the world to change to suit us
And I certainly don't resort to making derogatory comments about groups or individuals because I don't like it myself.
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I'm a dog owner and see nothing wrong with taking my dog to the pub, even when we're having a pub lunch. ( Provided the Publican agrees ).
If we go out for an evening meal to a decent restaurant however, I would much rather that the restaurant was animal free.
It's a case of what's appropriate for the occasion.
K
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There seems to be more premises accepting dogs, which as said by a Wetherspoons manager in one that did accept dogs(usually not allowed) our takings would be down at least 25% if we did not allow dogs in certain areas,and noted just how many eating places had signs advertising they were dog friendly in Norfolk
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I can understand that when out for the day that dog owners would want to keep their pets with them whilst they had lunch in a pub for example. What puzzles me slightly is why, when on site, they would want to take their dogs into the site restaurant. Is it because they don't want to leave their pets in the van? I imagine pets are left at home for periods of the day when not away in a caravan or motorhome. Just interested to understand why.
Daviid
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A dog at home is in a very familiar enviroment with the normal sounds that go with it ,when away as most, on a few occasions in not so familiar area ,we have in numerous posts heard from "some" about distressed dogs being left in leisure vehicles,and of course it is "frowned" on on cc sites,
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How does the manager know his takings would be down by 25% if they didn't allow dogs ? I wonder if perhaps he is saying that 25% of his current customers have dogs. He has no idea how many potential customers DON'T go to Wetherspoon's because dogs ARE allowed. There could be just as many who avoid the pub because of the dogs allowed rule as those who currently take dogs in :-)
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It is only frowned upon because of the nuisance they may cause to others if they do get stressed and continually bark. My dog was equally at home in the motorhome as in the house in fact I think he preferred the motorhome.
Last week I was contacted by a friend, himself a dog owner, on his first trip to a Club site. He was staggered by the number of dogs on site which outnumbered the number of vans. I think that situation would be intolerable for many and is something the Club needs to be mindful of especially as there seems to be a trend that owning just one dog is not enough. I like dogs but there are limits.
peedee
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Peedee, good point...
however, as the club doesnt generally 'do' eating places on sites, its just a few areas that need the consideration you describe...
if the same ratio of dogs/tables were maintained in this Bistro as that of most CC sites, id be thinking very carefully if i were to eat there....
multiple dogs under half the tables in a pub doesnt IMHO make for the sort of eating place some would feel comfortable in....
as you say, is having the customers outnumbered by dogs the right situation?
ive been (and taken dogs to) 'dog friendly' pubs but i dont (necessarily) feel comfortable about my contribution to how some other 'non dog' customers might feel.....
yes, we all know how 'well behaved' little xxxx is, or how yyyy 'wouldnt hurt a fly' but some customers might not have the same confidence in xxxx or yyyy (or, indeed, their owners) and this may result in lessening their experience....
yes, if the club says its a 'dog friendly' bistro then all customers need to take this into account, however equally, the club has to take all customers' concerns into account when making the decision.
it has to be very careful that its 'inclusivity' of (non paying) dogs everywhere doesnt exclude a significant number of (paying) humans
BTW, not a dog unfriendly post, merely looking at the issue from both sides
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When we used the previous restaurant at Knaresborough I can only recall a couple of quiet dogs with their owners. We left ours in the van, we do the same at Hillhead which has a conservatory type area used by dog owners, can't remember the arrangement at Seacroft, probably a dog area like most pubs nowadays. All three club places run the same menus, bar food and Sunday lunches/carvery. Never noticed any problems in any of the establishments, they're welcoming social areas not found on most sites. No-one has to use them but many do.
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Might be booking Hillhead soon as the mid week discount is coming up, so better value and in the Autumn a stroll up to the shop and bar is quite pleasant! Never had any problems there, friendly bar staff would also sort out any concerns.
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I think that if a restaurant is "marketed" as dog friendly then non dog owners have to accept that dogs will be in there ,but the dog owners still have a responsibility to keep their dog under tight control, where as a restaurant that just allows dogs in ,then I think the dog owner needs to ask themselves if I take my dog in will it impede on the non dog owner who just wants a quiet meal
As a dog owner ,if I take my dog anywhere I ask myself "is my dog being here affecting anyone "
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