What is a pup tent

Ralphiespal
Ralphiespal Forum Participant Posts: 1
edited August 2015 in Certificated Locations #1

Will the Caravan Club please clarify the size of a single berth pup tent which is the only tent allowed on a CL. The majority of pup tents on sale can be classed as two berth if the occupants are friendly. We are booked into a CL with our 2 great grandaughters and when their mother comes to collect them at the end of their stay we would like to put up a small pop up 2 berth tent (for sleeping) for one night only for one person but have been refused by the site owner as it is against the rules on page 280 of the club book. This ruling needs to be clarified.

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  • andwend
    andwend Forum Participant Posts: 1
    edited August 2017 #2

    I think the Caravan Club need to update all of there rules,, they are very Ambiguous, The Caravan club has been going for 110 years and I think there rules reflect that !!

    If you ask a site Warden to Justify the rule they just say , the Book says No!

  • eurortraveller
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    edited August 2017 #3

    Is this another dog question?

  • SteveL
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    edited August 2017 #4

    Some define it as a small one or two man tent, however the Cambridge Dictionary squarely defines it as two man.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited September 2017 #5

    I think you have just been unlucky with your CL choice. We have stayed on lots and seen pup tents up. Mainly for storage, but occasional one night sleep over by children. Often inside awning as well!

  • Vulcan
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    edited September 2017 #6

    As far as I am aware unlike club sites no tent of any description is allowed on a CL

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited September 2017 #7

    Page 281 in current handbook, pup tent, toilet tent and awnings, considered part of a single outfit. Also states prior arrangements with owners should be sought, and additional charges may apply. CLs are down to site owners discretion, so subject to variations across the CL network. The wise phone and ask politely first. We have seen tiny pup tents regularly used as storage for none valuable items, even used one ourselves occasionally. Seen children having a closely supervised "adventure" in them as well, next to Mum and Dad in caravan! 

  • Vulcan
    Vulcan Forum Participant Posts: 670
    edited September 2017 #8

    Clearly at odds with the requirements for opening a CL which state,

    You will be asked to agree to the following conditions
    You can only take a maximum of 5 caravans, motor caravans or trailer tents at a time
    Visitors must be members of The Caravan Club
    Visitors must be touring for leisure with their caravan or motor caravan
    No caravan or motor caravan should stay for more than 28 days at a time
    Sites are for recreational use and not for storage or permanently sited vans
    No tents on site
    CL owners will be required to be Members of The Caravan Club

  • Navigateur
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    edited September 2017 #9

    You will be asked to agree to the following conditions
    You can only take a maximum of 5 caravans, motor caravans or trailer tents at a time
    Visitors must be members of The Caravan Club
    Visitors must be touring for leisure with their caravan or motor caravan

    So - the trailer tent people do not need to be "touring for leisure" and can get up to whatever they like!!

    Yes, that is the rules.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited September 2017 #10

    Pays not to read too deeply into what Club cites as rules and regulations, there are variations. For example, we know lots of CL owners who are not Club members. You didn't have to be years ago, now I think it is a condition of starting up a CL. Whether or not they have to rejoin each year I don't know, but lots of CLs in handbook don't mention being "member owned".

    A tiny pup tent isn't the same as what most folks camp in on a Club Site. They are usually small, low, possibly room for two slim persons or a couple of children, carried in rucksack type job. 

  • Oneputt
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    edited September 2017 #11

    You've posted in the CL section, so you need to ask the Owners.  I always thought tents were banned on CLs

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited September 2017 #12

    The OP is asking about a little pup tent Oneputt, for a one night put up for grandkids. Sort of thing lots of folks put inside their awning, making it a bit more adventurous for children. 

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited September 2017 #13

    We've been on a couple of CLs where the owners have allowed not only pup tents but full sizes ones too. As you might suppose we won't be going back to them again!

  • HBHF
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    edited September 2017 #14

    are drive away awnings oK?

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited September 2017 #15

    I personally don't see why not, it's only like a caravan awning. And before anyone comments about folks sleeping in one, they sleep in caravan awnings as well! laughing

    Up to you really, it's your CL!

  • HBHF
    HBHF Forum Participant Posts: 36
    edited September 2017 #16

    it does look like a tent though and when they go out for the day I would be hard pushed to tell the difference

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2017 #17

    I'm sure the CL owner will be gutted ....... innocent

  • Esme
    Esme Forum Participant Posts: 24
    edited September 2017 #18

    I know it's not quiet the same but for the purposes of a caravan rally a ‘pup tent’  must have a maximum footprint of 6’ x 6’ and be no higher than 5’ whilst placed in the area normally occupied by your awning. Personally i would check with any individual CL owners to see what they are happy with. We have on various occasions been allowed/not allowed them on CL's and Club sites.

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