So many M/Hs now!
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We run a small coachbuilt motorhome and a small car. The small car is used for everything and we're happy with it because it's been economical. Going to bore you all once more but the hybrid car we're picking up today should reduce our fuel costs considerably, less than 2p a mile, overall split mpg is 470. Even though the cost of the car is quite high we have decided in the long run it will benefit us.
So will continue to enjoy M/H plus car just as we did with our caravan and cars (we kept a small run around at the time.)
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We have a large towcar and a smaller runabout and has been the case for a very long time, we both had jobs in different directions and even now it is very useful to have them. Mainly the towcar gets used by OH as she has a straight forward run to work and a good to get into school car park. On weekends and for shopping we use the smaller one as it's easier to park at the local supermarkets.
back to the OP, Patterdale hall is a CL, so only has 5 pitches so hardly all MH is not statistically significant. Having said that I have noticed more MH on club sites and sometimes it is certainly 50%.
Btw I don't mind what's next to me MH, boat, igloo, trailer tent...
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Compact motorhomes are the future for people wanting to enjoy camping holidays.
Large motorhomes will gradually die out, as will towed caravans at an even greater attrition rate. .
The CMC might even change their title to "The Motorhome Club" but will still allow the few towed caravans to use the sites.
How long will this modernisation take ? As little as 30 years.from now. !
K
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I have no understanding as yet of the modern offerings in full electric cars other than a program I watched about Tesla, but when at work, so more than 5 years ago, we were running hybrid single and double deck buses and a limited number of full electric Ford Transit faltbed and panel vans. all of which had normal mechanically operated foundation braking systems but when the vehicle was slowing or being braked the drive motor effectively became an alternator to recharge the drive batteries. if it is the case that as your OH says that instead of a mechanical brake on each wheel the drive motor is used to break I would have thought the same system would be applied, if not you would be wasting an opportunity to recover some of the energy used to extend the vehicles range.
I would agree though that in the rush to get the best product to the market, manufactures would have the idea of towing behind MH's very low down on the list or not even have thought about it yet
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A bit too small for me
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The have changed the club name but little else. Whilst a large number of Caravans are put in storage over winter.M/Homers use theirs 12 months. Very few sites are open in winter to meet the precieved need. Have to rely on the commercials.who are invariable much cheaper than CC sites. Probably too mundane for HO to use some imagination in opening sites and looking at pricing, but the rebadge was an Ego trip so OK>
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I also notice that increasingly larger MHs are appearing and towing a "small" car so they can leave the MH on site and go out. I mentioned this to a MHer next to me on site when they were telling me why they'd changed from Van to MH. They explained that it plus car exceeded the legal MaxGW for his licence and he'd had it "replated" and reduced within the limit. How many MHers are aware of the limit? MH plus car seems backtofront to me? I'll stick with my Van.
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Nearly all my long distance driving is done in the motrohome so I am quite content to own a small car (no VED, 60m.p.g 5 door hatch) as a run around and towed car. I have more than most to carry around and manage quite comfortably.
In the winter you definitely see more motorhomes on sites than caravans, I was surprised this August bank holiday to observe the same where I stayed for 5 nights. There was a fair amount of coming and going but motorhomes/campervans varied from 65 to 75 percent of the occupancy.
peedee
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we 'manage' with a Carthago and a Fiat 500
i do agree with the OP in that we are seeing a gradual increase in MH usage, reflecting the sales figures?
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When we started campervanning/motorhoming (we were tuggers) we were very much in the minority and somewhat of a novelty on club sites. Today, on many sites we visit, it appears as if we are in at least on a par with our tugged fellow members. When all said and done we are all caravaners, motorised or otherwise!
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I spent yesterday at the Düsseldorf caravan show and spoke to a number of exhibitors about current trends regarding sales of caravans and motorhomes. They were unanimous in their assessment that after several years to the the opposite, caravan sales are increasing at a higher rate than motorhomes once again. When asked for the reason, they said that a number of owners who had changed from caravan to motorhome are now going back to caravans. They have realised that the running costs of motorhomes are unexpectedly high and that motorhomes have their limitations when touring locally once they have reached a campsite. They have come to realise that they miss the comfort of being able to use a car for longer trips that they can't do by bicycle or for shopping and few have the means or the will to tow a car behind a motorhome. And motorhomes don't lend themselves to doing much sightseeing in cities with often narrow streets and limited faclities for parking motorhomes by the roadside. (Quite often it is already bad enough by car).
Like I said, their opinion, but it seems plausible to me, too.
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I agree, we considered one a few years ago. Ideal for touring especially abroad. However I ask 2 questions. What will happen to MHs with the impending doom of the diesel engine, 2 as they get bigger and tow "little" cars they are creeping above the 3500kg limit. What happens then to your reasoning?
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Although MHs are, undeniably, becoming more popular, I'm at a loss to understand why.
Perhaps it's the 'cozy' feeling of knowing you have everything in 1 vehicle and can, in the limit, stop anywhere.
That apart all I can see are disadvantages ...
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It depends where you're standing, Brian. You might find out one day.
The pros and cons have been debated here many a time as you know.
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I have to smile when I read comments about why caravans might be better than motorhomes. Like others, having had both, there is no better or worse. The costs can be as much or as little either way. It's just a choice and what happens to suit us.
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Whilst some MH's are undeniably desirable, I personally can never get my head around those who use a MH and also tow a car. I know why they do it, but it seems to me that if you feel the need to tow a car, you probably would have been better and richer with a caravan !!
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obviously, the towed (toad) car can be a small one, whereas the tow car for a large caravan needs to be (well) LARGE.....
and who wants a large 4x4 to pop to tesco when at home?
Brian, as Tinny says, if you don't 'get' MHs you wont get it....
we are touring france now and will do a proportion of one nighters (just to visit the local town/beach/sights) and will stop in town on an aire...
cant do this in a caravan....
we can collect our shopping en route and make use of supermarket carparks more easily than a car/caravan can.....(ok a car can go out and make a special trip but we combine the two....)
we can go for many days without requiring access to water or waste, we generate our own electricity from the sun.
yes, we will also make use of campsites, when we 'arrive' whenever that is, and do as a caravanner would.....
but we dont 'awning' so never have that 'is it worth getting the awning out as we are only staying xx days...', we stay one day or 20 depending on whether the site/area holds sufficient interest.
a guy on the next pitch left yesterday, cussing about how much of a pain it was 'setting up and taking down' all the car load of 'kit' that seems to be the norm for some.....
we just chuck the chairs and bikes in the garage, swivel the seats and turn the key.....
perhaps we are more transient than residential and thats a big difference?
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and who wants a large 4x4 to pop to tesco when at home?
Well, for one, I do.
And to B&Q. And to tow my other two trailers. And to go deep.into forests and up tracks that these little cars could never look at.
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With the proper equipment, one can do much the same with a caravan as with a motorhome. I have a roll-out awning so that can be put up in minutes if I want to so it is sometimes worthwhile even for just one night's stopover. The caravan has a built-in water and waste tank, too. OK, so the tanks aren't as large as they usually are on a motorhome so I can't be without a hook-up for quite as many days, but that doesn't stop me from being fairly transient, too. Besides, I can leave the breakfast table set and immediately pop off to do shopping or a bit of sightseeing without having to put everything away first.
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What does it matter? We are all caravaners, motorised or otherwise! Those very first caravaners had tents. The similarities we have are common, those differences just personal, to each their own but at heart the same. Just get on with it and enjoy!
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I certainly accept the trend in favour of motorhomes, but at present, can't see the day when I would prefer a motorhome to a caravan. We like to leave our caravan on site 'fully set up' and ready to use while we go out in the car and explore the surrounding area. It's just the way we do things.
One thing that I always think about is, what should happen if I get a mechanical problem with my vehicle. A few years ago in Cornwall my car had to go into the garage for a couple of days. If that was a motorhome, I'd be hard pressed for somewhere to stay!
Of course, it's personal preference and it depends on how you organise your time away. We are all different and it's great to have the choice.
David
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One of the reasons we changed to motorhoming was to take our living space during tours to places a caravan could not go. Enjoyed scenery and sites well off the caravan route in Britain and abroad. We just plan our tours to include shopping and amenity stops etc.
Not for us, but we've met folk with towed cars on these very remote sites, they just unhitch if the road conditions on route require and partner drives these for those miles needed before hitching up again. The car then can be used for days out whilst on site.
This may be the answer mind
https://www.hymer.com/en/models/motorhomes/semi-integrated/hymer-ml-t/hymer-ml-t-allrad.html
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