So many M/Hs now!

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  • Unknown
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    edited September 2017 #62
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  • JVB66
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    edited September 2017 #63

    There are 55 pitches on the site we are on and it is full, have counted four motor caravans

  • EasyT
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    edited September 2017 #64

    Betws-Y-Coed and site full

  • EasyT
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    edited September 2017 #65

    I suppose with 10 minwalk into B-Y-C and 5 min to railway station it is appealing for some motorhomers without toad

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2017 #66

    It might be a 5 min walk to station near here as well,wink

  • EasyT
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    edited September 2017 #67

    But is it and where are trains to?

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2017 #68

     It is and we are in Dorset and some trains go to Warehamcool

  • Photo4x4
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    edited September 2017 #69

    Hello

    When we had the MH we noticed that we saw more MHs on the road in the week and more caravans on a weekend. My internal logic for this was that the MH'ers changed sites most days and the caravans moved at weekends and stayed put during the week. This has certainly been our own experience since getting the caravan 12 months ago.

    One big reason for the increase in MHs is surely the change in pension regulations which enables people retiring to release enough of their pension pot to purchase the MH of their dreams. It can't be a coincidence that the rise in MH ownership has followed the pension changes.

    Certainly, where we live (just off the NC500) we have seen a huge increase in the number of MHs on the local roads over the past couple of years.

    My very un-scientific thoughts on MH ownership tell me that many of the new MH owners were not previously caravanners - they did not fancy towing a caravan - otherwise they would have had a caravan when they were younger. Now, by cashing in on their pension they can afford a MH, so off they go and buy one.

    As a former MH’er I would speculate that at small remote sites away from public transport you will find more caravans than MHs and at larger sites next to a town/village/public transport you will find more MHs.

    As for the NC500...don't get me started on that! surprised

    KH

  • mickysf
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    edited September 2017 #70

    I too think pension changes and increased disposable income of the 'later aged' has helped. Furthermore I too agree that many new comers would probably never towed before but had secretly wished to in the past.

  • mickysf
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    edited September 2017 #71

    Clearly we have to take into account non club sites when attempting to understand the growth and popularity of motorised caravanning in the last few decades. My experience tells me that on the remote sites I've visited there are far, far more campervans/motorhomes than caravans. Take a look at the photos on the likes of Glen Brittle website on Skye, how many caravans do you see? Also, the same on many sites that find themselves primarily catering for tents because of remoteness, guess what the second largest number of visitors will be in. This pattern we have witness throughout Britain and Europe.

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2017 #72

    Also am I right in thinking that a motor caravan can be "leased"the same as is happening  with new cars ,with the option to buy at the end of said lease

  • eurortraveller
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    edited September 2017 #73

    But on Exmouth seafront recently there were 48 motorhomes and no caravans at all. 

    Let's not assume that counting numbers on Club sites gives the true picture. Lots of motorhomers go somewhere else, and as the numbers of Aires, pub sites and garden centre sites increase in the UK the motorhomes will go there too, and to town centre car parks as well when councils open them up to raise more cash.   Those of you who go across to Brittany this autumn will see how Motorhome numbers there have ballooned, and where they stay overnight. The UK is once again playing catch up.

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2017 #74

    So Exmouth will soon be joining the growing number of local councils putting in restrictions on motor caravan parking surprised

  • eurortraveller
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    edited September 2017 #75

    No, They are trying to clear the sea front, but they know a money spinner when they see it. They are putting water, electric points and waste disposal on four of their car parks - and meters. 

     But the Wildcamping Uk website has pages and pages of where to go without paying at all. That's what the motorhomers read. 

  • Fisherman
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    edited September 2017 #76

    THe club needs to do more than just change the name to attract us M/Homers,as everyone else, Councils, Garden Centres.Pubs etc are vying for that busi ness

  • DSB
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    edited September 2017 #77

    I think you are right JBV.  PCP is the way many are 'owning' a motorhome according to the person representing a caravan/motorhome retailer at the Midlands Question time earlier on this year. 

    David 

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2017 #78

    But is that a proposal only at the moment and is yet to go to consultation and be aproved by DCCundecided

  • Kennine
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    edited September 2017 #79

     I agree with you Fisherman,  It would be so easy for them to look at the specific needs of their Motorhoming members and accomodate those needs within their network of sites,  

    K

     

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2017 #80

    As long as it is cost effective and not to the detriment of other site userswink

  • JayEss
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    edited September 2017 #81

    I think the club is keen to attract new motorhomers based on the statements they made when rebranding.  That is a sensible market to attract. Grab a year's subscription before they fully understand what they are looking for in touring. No need to change anything wink

    With regard to the OP and from my limited use of club sites this year I'd say there are more campervans than before, fewer MHs and caravans about the same. Outside club sites I've seen very few MHs, even on the roads.  I've seen hundreds if not thousands of campervans but that's hardly surprising considering I've been to numerous VW bus events laughing

    I guess it depends where you are as to what you see. 

  • Oneputt
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    edited September 2017 #82

    I don't know why there is a mantra of negatives on here (lots of threads), you know the sort, you can't do this or that, you can't park here or there, you should do this or that, I say rubbish.

    BB says more difficult to park a car and caravan in a supermarket and shop, again not true we do it very often when here and abroad.  In France we often stop at village bakery's on main streets to stock up for lunch. 

  • Merve
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    edited September 2017 #83

    That's interesting oneputt. I have to say that I tend to agree with BB. The thought of taking my caravan onto a supermarket car park fills me with dread. Firstly the entrances are not known for their space and  how would I park it? -  it would take up 2 1/2 bays and be sticking out into the roadways. I just wouldn't attempt it but a M/H parked in a double Bay one behind the other- yes, I can see that- in fact I see it all the time but never a caravan- unless it's a micro van of course. Surely the driver will be aware of the total length of his rig and most are too long for the standard car bays. 

  • Pippah45
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    edited September 2017 #84

    I have parked on plenty of supermarket car parks - the overhang hasn't been an issue!  But I try not to do that and pick times quite carefully. 

    I traveled to Huddersfield and back on Thursday - going between 10.30 and 12.30 I counted more than 20 caravans (excluding the gang of travelers on the move) and 9 motor homes.  On the way back 4 caravans and 1 motor home.  Saturday to Louth - 10 caravans and one motor home - on the way back 3 caravans and one motor home - I don't think the caravan has had its day yet! 

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2017 #85

    In the UK its more difficult stopping in some service areas than supermarket car parks with a caravan on the hook

  • Oneputt
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    edited September 2017 #86

    Obviously you have to use a modicum of commonsense when picking which to enter.  The larger Tescos aren't a problem the Tesco Express types are a little more probmatical.  If you know the petrol station at Morrisons in Penrith, quite tight, I've taken the van in twice to fuel up.  As I say, a little commonsense needed.

  • young thomas
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    edited September 2017 #87

    OP, based solely on my own observations where MHs spotted parked in a supermarket carpark (uk or europe) against car/caravans has to be around a thousand to one....

    im sure youre well able to take your rig where you want to, many caravanners 'seem' to wait until theyre unhooked and then come back in the car....