Uncontrolled children vs uncontrolled dogs

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  • BuntyWatson
    BuntyWatson Forum Participant Posts: 23
    edited August 2017 #62

    that was autocorrect changed it to knee and not kdee seeing as kdee is not a word

    are you insinuating that I am someone else? because if you are you are wrong and I don't appreciate what you are implying

     

    No I wasn't happy at Hawes either is there something wrong with that? I will give credit where it is due.

    I don't really understand the purpose of your response as it is completely off topic now, 

     

  • BuntyWatson
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    edited August 2017 #63

    I do usually, this is the first time I have been when it is a school holiday period. you live and learn

  • Navigateur
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    edited August 2017 #64

    i think I've heard you playing late night jazz on it.

     

     

  • BuntyWatson
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    edited August 2017 #65

    yes I have children

    "there are sufficient responsible adults around to ensure children don't come o harm"

    yes those responsible adults are called their parents, its not my responsibility  to look out for them, yes when I am driving but not when I am in or around my motorhome 

  • moulesy
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    edited August 2017 #66

    An example - you are sitting outside your motorhome and a child rides past on a bicycle. They fall off and are clearly distressed. Do you go to help them or sit there saying "it's up to the parents to look after them, not my problem"?

    That was what I meant by sufficient responsible adults being around.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2017 #67

    Of course it's not, but Moulsey said sufficient adults, there are usually many like minded parents on site and many a time we have spotted a child either upset, lost, or about to do something silly and interceded, then when their parents arrive it a case of thank you and we've all been there type of conversation.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2017 #68

    yes exactly what I mean, and has happened to us

  • BuntyWatson
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    edited August 2017 #69

    Pedantic much?

     

    ok they were around the site. I brought around the caravan into it as someone else mentioned it, but yes there were some around the caravan (sorry should I put caravan/motorhome here or will caravan suffice)

    I used "running" as a general term for children moving around running walking cycling scootering.

    Do you really need to pick apart the whole post, people from different regions of the UK use different phrases and words.  

    I was making an observation about what happened when I was at Chatsworth recently, and what I had observed at other sites I had stayed on.

    To be attacked in this manner is not very club friendly

    to be called a miserable **** (whatever that stands for) is not inline with the club ethos is it?

     

  • BuntyWatson
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    edited August 2017 #70

    oh for goodness sakes, I used "gang" so denote a group of children i.e. more than 1 but less than 50

    I didn't realise that I would have to explain every line of what I had written

  • Metheven
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    edited August 2017 #71

    No-one has called you a 'miserable ****' Bunny.

  • moulesy
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    edited August 2017 #72

    No, you don't have to explain everything but the use of the word "gangs" and the expression "roaming the site" is quite specific, I'd have thought?

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2017 #73

    I commented that you remind me of someone. Why get uptight about that unless it's a sore point.

    I also commented you weren't having much luck with your sites. What's wrong with that. You seem very defensive, Bunty. 

    I also welcomed you to CT, or was that wrong as well? 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2017 #74

    Moulesy, that reminds me of packs of dogs roaming the site. Remember that?

  • Vulcan
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    edited August 2017 #75

    Unfortunately bicycles are not subject to speed limits on the public highway because they are not motor vehicles so I doubt it can be enforced on a club site.

  • trellis
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    edited August 2017 #76

    Personally I think had the warden NOT mentioned the speed limit , knowing that there were children playing he /she would have been failing in their duty .Case of damned if they do. Etc.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2017 #77

    I am sorry if you feel attacked Bunty, really. I was just trying to put together what you had said and when as it differed from your OP, and I did say I was confused. Pedantic? well if you write one thing and then say it's something else am I being pedantic for asking you to clarify that? 

    people do use different phrases but cycling and running are very distinct words and cannot be used for the same meaning.

    Again sorry you feel attacked

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2017 #78

    When the pitches are occupied i can think of numerous sites with "blind"corners 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2017 #79

    Of course it can, Vulcan, if somebody has the will to enforce it. 

    What happens on the public highway has no bearing on site rules. Are you really saying that highway speed limits don't apply to cycles? I'm amazed. 

  • David2115
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    edited August 2017 #80

    What an awful thread. It can only end up in argument. What's the point. Kids will be welcome onnsites and continue to play. Simple. 

  • brue
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    edited August 2017 #81

    Totally agree with you David2115 and I sympathise with those who try to make sense of it and the provocative title. When you read the reviews for Chatsworth they are generally very positive. Enough said!

    see here

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2017 #82

    The site we are on does not have a play area but a large field  and also an area that has large "lawn games"but neither have been used during the time we have been  here  ,but numerous young children have been useing the site roads as a speed way including after dark,  no lights or helmets ,the site staff have been out,"advising" the children to keep to the one way system and slow down,as the roads are nearly all on hills,there was no sign of the "parents",   there has been a complaint to the warden from one of the parents that their child was "shouted at"by a member and was "upset", also the same parent wanted something done about a dog that was barking from a nearby house

  • Vulcan
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    edited August 2017 #83

    Amazed or not it is a fact, highway speed limits only apply to motorised vehicles.

  • Navigateur
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    edited August 2017 #84

    many a time we have spotted a child either upset, lost, or about to do something silly and interceded

    With the current state of cases going to court about child protection and paedophilia many might say the safest course of action is to not get involved in any way.  The legal state of "in loco parentis" seems now to be ignored.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2017 #85

    Thankyou for that, Vulcan. We live and learn.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited August 2017 #86

    well it's very sad that it has indeed come to that, but as along as you are careful, don't touch the child and have a witness with you at all times and/or call the warden/police you will be OK. I don't think I could stand by and do nothing

  • huskydog
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    edited August 2017 #87

    Why do people take part in a hobby/pastime where families take part in that hobby/pastime and then moan when the families and children enjoy themselves 

    I don't have children myself but was fully aware when I joined the CC that families should be staying on the same sites as me ,which I don't have a problem with 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited August 2017 #88

    But the majority of cycles on CC site roads have a working front brake innocent. If a cycle is ridden by a small child, I fully expect it to be ridden faster than 5mph & against any one way system .... that's what young kids do. And as they don't have a speedo fitted, how would the child know? I drive at such a speed on site that I know I'll be able to stop &/or accommodate them.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited August 2017 #89

    I've been on site with plenty of hedges too .... but none that I can think of that had them close by any junctions or corners that made them 'blind'. undecided

  • moulesy
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    edited August 2017 #90

    And what a very sad reflection of our society that is.

    I'm afraid I'd feel bound to take the risk! frown

  • Navigateur
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    edited August 2017 #91

    If a cycle is ridden by a small child, I fully expect it to be ridden faster than 5mph & against any one way system .... that's what young kids do. And as they don't have a speedo fitted,

    Just a little out of touch there. 

    Kids have cycle computers with GPS that will calculate speed, and the challange is to get a higher reading down the site road hill than other kids.  Even the ones who got missed by Santa nearly all have mobile phones that can do the same thing.