BBMF - grounding of aircraft

JVB66
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edited August 2017 in Your Hobbies #1

Just heard on the news that several aircraft including the Lancaster have been grounded because of mechanical (engine ) problems ,is this the end? 

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  • dmiller555
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    edited August 2017 #2

    Could be the beginning. 

  • Bakers2
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    edited August 2017 #3

    Hopefully there will be some clever engineers who can fix it. I believe it's only the merlin engine ones.

  • Bakers2
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    edited August 2017 #4

    This is also appearing as a double post in latest discussions. Here's hoping it will be a problem free thread 😉

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2017 #5

    Thats the majority isnt it? there have been rumblings about the cost of the flight, is this an "excuse" to ground it?

  • Bakers2
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    edited August 2017 #6

    Yes three other spitfires apparently but all out of action reason unknown.

    I do hope you're not right 😢

    But safety must come first for pilots and the spectators.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2017 #7

    It's in Introductions - is it duplicated elsewhere?

  • tigerfish
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    edited August 2017 #8

    My post appears to be on the other-duplicate thread, cannot the mods merge the two?

    TF

  • Bakers2
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    edited August 2017 #9

    Both showing in introductions when clicked on from the latest discussions heading on CT page this link

    https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/club-together/

    Both started at 8.27am today. The other thread has 2 posts from Tigerfish and Pippah45.

    Sorry forgot to quote Tinwheeler post 😲

  • tigerfish
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    edited August 2017 #10

    This is quite ridiculous!   Why two threads on the one subject both by the same originator at the same time?   Clearly a system problem that any efficient forum would have sorted out hours ago!

    Get a grip!

    TF

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2017 #11

    Sadly, unlike other more efficient forum software, this set up doesn't allow that facility, TF.

  • triky auto
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    edited August 2017 #12

    wink  Latest news from Kent Today ,is that the Herne Bay Airshow is going ahead as planned.BUT ,,not with the original line up,as a defect/fault gas been discovered with the 'Merlin' engines.Spare aircraft from Biggin Hill are to be stand-in's,having the 'Griffon' engines.Sitting here in Herne Bay ,it all happens in front of my house on the seafront .Thousands of 'joe public' decending for the event.Hope there are no crashes ,like last years when a small aircraft lost power and had to ditch near the beach !! surprised.

  • Bakers2
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    edited August 2017 #13

    Tricky enjoy. Would have loved to have joined you but other arrangements already in place. I do hope Joe public respect your property 😉.  And that all flights are safe ones.

    Edit went my usual way of logging in before commenting, click like on tricky's post, log in, taken to duplicate thread with 3 posts on it. Close that, go to latest activity page select this thread and read more and back to 11 posts 😤😤😤😤😤😤

    One day one day 😂😂😂 mustn't  rush these jobs 9 months so far and little in the way of change from day one and some that have changed is for the worse 😲😢

  • tigerfish
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    edited August 2017 #14

    I had replied with the latest update re this NONE problem, but due to the daft duplicate thread business on this forum, my reply appears to have disappeared!

     

    TF

  • tigerfish
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    edited August 2017 #15

    Posted on 19/08/2017 12:38
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    The latest clarification confirms my suspicion> A fault was discovered in some planetary gears in the Merlin Engine of a Hurricane aircraft owned and managed by the BBMF.  Being the RAF, and their maintenance regime is maintained to such an impeccable standard, they immediately grounded all of their aircraft using the same engine.  There is absolutely nothing to suggest that the fault may exist in other engines but their regime is so tight that they will not fly them again until all engines have been checked & cleared.

    There is no compulsion on other operators to follow suite. Neither is there any real likelihood of the fault being replicated in other engines. But the RAF just don't take any chances with their flagship historical flight!

    These vintage aircraft will soon be in the air again!  They are all maintained to a standard far exceeding that when they were new.   Sadly nearly all of the accidents - worldwide, have been due to errors of judgement by the aircrew rather than faults in the aircraft themselves.

    It really is quite ridiculous that when an operator decides to take a decision in line with their impeccable safety record, to temporarily  withdraw from public exhibitions, that other people  read into that decision all sorts of wild conclusions.  Go back to my original post. (1) The issue was limited to one engine type. (2)  There had been no accident. (3) The CAA had not taken any wider action.  So why the sudden talk about grounding all other aircraft?

    Vintage aircraft today are maintained to a level far exceeding that of the machines when they were first manufactured.  Far from being worn out, they are today in far better condition than when they first flew in our defence. So why the thoughts of grounding them?

    TF

  • triky auto
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    edited August 2017 #16

    wink Everything went to plan (almost) lots of 'dead air' space between flight displays.But they did the best they could.No Lancaster but one Spitfire & one Hurrican.The 'Euro Fighter was awsom.Stars of the show were the "Red Arrows" of course.Good weather too helped.cool.

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