Alde wet heating v blown air

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  • SteveL
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    edited August 2017 #32

    I think the weight issue would not be so extreme if the Alde was available as an option in the lower spec vans. In general it is only fitted to higher end models. These have lots of extra kit which already eats into the payload.

  • xtrailman
    xtrailman Forum Participant Posts: 559
    edited August 2017 #33

    Thats fake news.

    The alde boiler alone has over 3kg of heating fluid (3.3kg?), my last system needed over 11kg to replace the contents, a blown air system holds no fluid.

    If you look round any properly installed Alde system you should see cut  outs, extra boarding to allow flow behind seat along side beds, all reqirements for an efficient heating install.

    Swift make it clear for every model of challenger that it adds another 20kg.

  • catherinef
    catherinef Forum Participant Posts: 647
    edited August 2017 #34

    Another vote for Alde heating.  I find blown air heating systems inefficient at the rear of caravans.

  • TrackerEKS
    TrackerEKS Forum Participant Posts: 21
    edited August 2017 #35

    I had an intermittant problem with the pump, which meant that the heating would be on but not pumping.  I was told by a dealer that this was a problem with this system, and the solution was to fit an inline pump, the van is only just over a year old.  I then took this up with Alde who were at first reluctant to deal with the problem, but i persisted and was asked to send the pump back to them.  They tested the pump and eventually found the problem and supplied me with a new pump, thanks to Alde for this.  Interestingly for 2018 most caravan manufacturers are changing to the inline pump, i wonder why

  • ocsid
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    edited August 2017 #36

    There is absolutely no way we would buy a house with blown air heating, and now wet heating is so readily available in caravans there is for us no reason why we should settle for blown air in our vans.

     

  • Trini
    Trini Forum Participant Posts: 429
    edited August 2017 #37

    Our previous van had the blown air (Elldis Xplore 485) and we had to use additional heating in the rear bathroom in the off season as we use the van all year.

    Changed in in 14 to an Affinity 550 with Alde heating and it is superb programmable and very warm even at Christmas/Feb.

    We have never had to run on gas just set it to 3kw as we're setting up and in 20 mins its very liveable.

    I would however be wary of buying anything from Elddis we have posted our experience with their 'sheds'. 

  • dmiller555
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    edited August 2017 #38

    Our last van had a blown air system, which was rather hit and miss, mainly the latter. Our current van has a wet system fitted and is far superior, I would not willingly return to a blown air system.

  • DSB
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    edited August 2017 #39

    Our current van is the first we have had with Alde heating and I have to say, we find it really fantastic.

    David 

  • onepjg
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    edited August 2017 #40
    My Bailey Brindisi 2016 has the Truma Combi boiler. There is no 'fire', just a blown air system and boiler, and a programmer similar to the Alde, which I had in my previous van. It's every bit as good as the Alde system, and also a damn site quicker.
  • onepjg
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    edited August 2017 #41
    My Bailey Brindisi 2016 has the Truma Combi boiler. There is no 'fire', just a blown air system and boiler, and a programmer similar to the Alde, which I had in my previous van. It's every bit as good as the Alde system, and also a damn site quicker.
  • onepjg
    onepjg Forum Participant Posts: 282
    edited August 2017 #42
    My Bailey Brindisi 2016 has the Truma Combi boiler. There is no 'fire', just a blown air system and boiler, and a programmer similar to the Alde, which I had in my previous van. It's every bit as good as the Alde system, and also a damn site quicker.
  • onepjg
    onepjg Forum Participant Posts: 282
    edited August 2017 #43
    My Bailey Brindisi 2016 has the Truma Combi boiler. There is no 'fire', just a blown air system and boiler, and a programmer similar to the Alde, which I had in my previous van. It's every bit as good as the Alde system, and also a damn site quicker without messing around with topping up or replacing the liquid. I'd take it over the Alde but would be happy enough with either system.
    Peter
  • onepjg
    onepjg Forum Participant Posts: 282
    edited August 2017 #44
    My Bailey Brindisi 2016 has the Truma Combi boiler. There is no 'fire', just a blown air system and boiler, and a programmer similar to the Alde, which I had in my previous van. It's every bit as good as the Alde system, and also a damn site quicker without messing around with topping up or replacing the liquid. I'd take it over the Alde but would be happy enough with either system.
    Peter
  • onepjg
    onepjg Forum Participant Posts: 282
    edited August 2017 #45
    My Bailey Brindisi 2016 has the Truma Combi boiler. There is no 'fire', just a blown air system and boiler, and a programmer similar to the Alde, which I had in my previous van. It's every bit as good as the Alde system, and also a damn site quicker without messing around with topping up or replacing the liquid. I'd take it over the Alde but would be happy enough with either system.
    Peter
  • onepjg
    onepjg Forum Participant Posts: 282
    edited August 2017 #46
    My Bailey Brindisi 2016 has the Truma Combi boiler. There is no 'fire', just a blown air system and boiler, and a programmer similar to the Alde, which I had in my previous van. It's every bit as good as the Alde system, and also a damn site quicker without messing around with topping up or replacing the liquid. I'd take it over the Alde but would be happy enough with either system.
    Peter
  • onepjg
    onepjg Forum Participant Posts: 282
    edited August 2017 #47
    My Bailey Brindisi 2016 has the Truma Combi boiler. There is no 'fire', just a blown air system and boiler, and a programmer similar to the Alde, which I had in my previous van. It's every bit as good as the Alde system, and also a damn site quicker without messing around with topping up or replacing the liquid. I'd take it over the Alde but would be happy enough with either system.
    Peter
  • Heethers
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    edited August 2017 #48

    Totally agree onepig and a dam sight quieter,plus you can set the water to 40 degree's and at 60 degree's, on the Alde system its set at ruddy hot, was told by Alde that was the temp it had to be set for Health and safety reasons,.possibly due to legionella they said. But when you shower you set the temp to 60 degree's with the Truma

  • SteveL
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    edited August 2017 #49

    You can hardly hear the pump on our Alde cut in and that is not used for water heating mode, so very quiet in summer. Our old van had a 40 setting on gas but we never used it. Although I can see it would be useful if you had young children. Otherwise a higher temperature is better, as you get more useable hot. I think most vans have a mixer tap, so not much of an issue. The Alde system actually has a Anti legionella setting, it takes it to 70C for a period in the early hours.

    As far as speed of heating the water it depends what setting you use. 1 / 2 or 3 kw and / or combined with gas or boost, if central heating on. It can be very quick indeed.

  • Justus2
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    edited August 2017 #50

    We have a Truma combi blown air system in our van and it works very well indeed. 

  • Natasha2
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    edited August 2017 #51

    It seems that onepjg  really likes his Truma Combi boiler!  laughing

  • Heethers
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    edited August 2017 #52

    All can say is that it was annoying in winter when the pump cuts in every 10 min due to the drop in temp at night. For example set temp to 18 degree's, soon has the temp dropped to 17 degree's circulation pump would cut in. In the bailey Madrid it was under off side bed, in the Clubman SB it was in the wardrobe and you could still hear it. l agree in summer know problem but winter a pain in the rear end

  • dmiller555
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    edited August 2017 #53

    I thought that was what earplugs were for. wink

    I've yet to hear our pump running; as you say it's in our wardrobe but maybe the hanging clothes muffle the sound.

     

  • BigBird57
    BigBird57 Forum Participant Posts: 9
    edited November 2017 #54

    Of the two systems I prefer the Alde wet system. Gives a nice overall heat to the caravan.

    The only down side to the system in my caravan (Swift 645 2012) is that the pump in the header tank is in the wardrobe next to the bed. The wardrobe acts as an amplifier to the pump sound when its working..........dosen't put me off sleeping though!

    Different caravans have different sites for the header tank and pump, don't be put off.

  • AJB
    AJB Forum Participant Posts: 120
    edited November 2017 #55

    First time Alde owners - and a complete success!

    Particularly the ability to set separate night and day temperatures at the outset, then leave alone for the rest of the holiday - brilliant!!  No more blown air for us.... 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited November 2017 #56

    I really should read my manual  ..... I alter the set point day & night embarassed

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited November 2017 #57

    Me too. Wonder if AJB stays on one site for the holiday or move from one site to another. As we tend to move every 5 or so days would we have to set the two temps at each new site. If so it's just as easy to set the temp as and when we have the heating on.

  • mbee1
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    edited November 2017 #58

    On site at the moment. Just taken the dog out and the temperature is dropping exactly as the weather forecaster said it would. Got back to the van heated by Alde with no cold spots, constant temperature even in the end washroom. Would never consider a van without it now. 

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2017 #59

    I am quite happy to turn the heating up when I rise of a morning and down before bed.

  • ocsid
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    edited November 2017 #60

    I am happy that whilst I am in the land of nod some 40 odd minutes before the teasmaid wakes us up the Alde has quietly been doing its thing getting the van nice and warm for me to get up and pour the tea out.

  • Boff
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    edited November 2017 #61

    Is that what you do at home?  Because it don’t and use a time switch.