Ball games taking over on club sites
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That "name" is used by all who in the last years 20 yrs or so has been coined to describe the "problems" that have come to light since the want all for nothing society that complain about anything ,has got worse,and that is in all aspects of all customer focus buisineses
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Chalk and cheese BB as well you know, you quote a special offer to get people in the site at off peak, I quoted a night at peak season.
My son also stayed there at a very cheap price in April also, because of the facilities for his kids. It suits some but would not in any way interest me.
We are all different and there are a wealth of sites out there to suit everyone, some all singing and dancing and some just a field and an alfalfa lot in between
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Well I didn't quite believe the £80 odd per night at perran sands so I just checked and for me and the wife with our 2 dogs for tomorrow night they want £81. Yes that is £81 for 1 night
you can stay at Treamble Valley which is about 3 miles away as the crow flys for £25.50 tomorrow night.
now where are all those people who shout that the camc are dear, yes you have a swimming pool restaurant bar and kids zones but £56 extra a night!!!! There's a perfectly good beach nearby in fact loads of beaches all dog friendly for entertainment
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Do you think Perran Sands is the ideal one night stop? Of course it isn't, it is designed for a family holiday of a week or more. If the 'extras' attract the custom at this high peak price level, then that's good business isn't it? If these type of sites keep the children happy, then families will keep returning despite the price.
A children's play area, maybe a games rooms and a daily trudge to the beach will become boring very quickly.
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True. The simple fact is that I use CC sites because they fit the bill for me. Those that use Perran Sands make a similar decision. Such provisions as available there would be something that I suspect the majority of CC members would not wish to fund.
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Indeed, these holiday park type sites employ a lot more seasonal staff over and above a handful of wardens, which will be their greatest expense at this time of year. This is reflected in the fees but families get daily and nightly entertainment, organized events etc etc all to keep the children entertained and give a tiny bit of respite for the parents. It's a model that is extremely popular. I worked behind the bar for 3 years running at Hendra 25 years ago, when I was stationed at St Mawgan as a tech on Nimrod. Great times, the site was buzzing during school holiday times. Loved it.
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I'm not suggesting to stay there for 1 night, I was mearly putting the price difference into perspective not using an out of season special offer to a high season price as BB had done.
As for taking the children to the beach, we did just that when we were children and cannot remember ever being bored. It's what you do with the children that matters not where you go or how much you spend!!
I visited my son whilst he was there and apart from the pool there wasn't anything else which would have interested me at all.
As I said in an earlier post if you care to read it, there are a wealth of campsites out there some all singing and dancing and then at the other end you have a field, with lots of sites of vairing degrees in between. On our site of 134 pitches we are about 95% full with probably 1/2 of the pitches with children, and I haven't seen them complaining about being board
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Only 95% full, the Club won't be happy about that given it's the first week of the summer break. Questions will be asked as to why it's not 100% full
Unless you have a couple of children with you Kevin, Perran Sands or sites like that, are not designed to interest you
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David, I don't know how you can say that £25.50 per night at peak season in that part of Cornwall is "wildly overpriced" - it's actually much less than the going rate for virtually any other site in the area, unless you can come up with an alternative?
I wish I'd taken a picture of Perran Sands as we were walking across Perran Dunes last week (before the school holidays) - regardless of what facilities it might offer, it'd be my idea of hell on earth. (But then, each to their own, it's obviously doing something right judging from the numbers crammed in!)
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A point well made, holiday parks would seem hell on earth to your average touring couple, but as you state, they are not designed for you. However, whilst £25.50 does seem like good value in comparison and I've been to Treamble, it's a lovely site, as KevinH has reported, it's not full. So either £25.50 is too much for the services offered or the Club is failing in attracting the bookings.
If what KevinH reports is about right, that's 30 vacant pitches over a week, over £800 down on potential income not being met. This will not be sitting comfortably with the marketing director at HQ
Its the first week of the summer break, THE busiest week, Treamble should be full
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Yep, I didn't type what I meant to, corrected it
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Too quick for me, Nigel - I reread your (corrected ) post then Deleted User mine! Ah well!!
Having said that, I seem to remember, I think, David Klyne, saying that it's normal practice for 5% of pitches to be kept aside for contingencies/emergencies, so on that basis Treamble's doing pretty well!
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My maths was still a little bit out. Let's assume 5 vacant pitches, 7 nights... (because most book a week holiday at this point in the year) it's over a £grand down for the week
For Treamble which you would expect to be full this week, it's still not great.
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I could be wrong, The Club might be wholly satisfied with bookings they have at this key site for this week, but having worked in the industry in the past, bosses are generally not happy unless they are busting at the seams. A certain percentage of pitches will naturally remain vacant due to the fact that not everyone books a week, the weekends could be full, thus restricting those wanting a full week.
If im honest, I'd happily pay £25.50 for Treamble, it really is worth it. Was there two years ago, pitched in one of those nice little secluded sections with 5 or 6 vans, very nice
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The choice is Cornwall is vast, something for everyone
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Then you have "others"who think that some commercial sites are good price for us who can travel any time but then really extract the the last penny out of families this time of year to "subsidise" the off peak loss leaders,where as both major clubs prices are way below without
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Gold plated.......😱
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David - how do you define "exploit families"?
Treamble Valley, for 2 adults and 2 children is £31.30 a night throughout the school holidays. Now I haven't done any research but I'm willing to bet that's a lot less than any other site in the Newquay/Perranporth area!
(PS - I wouldn't pay £28.50 either and don't think I ever have done for a club site! )
(PPS - off to a lovely local CL on Sunday - HS, serviced pitch, free wifi, toilets & showers - £15 per night!
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I'm certainly not, David, but I think even you would have to admit that, compared to many "holiday chain" providers, club price increases (for everyone) at peak are relatively moderate. I can't see the justification for calling them "exploitative".
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