Diesel / petrol banned by 2040 what do we do then

DreamMachine
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edited July 2017 in Caravan & Motorhome Chat #1

the government has annouced the banning of all new diesel & petrol cars by 2040 !

so what do we do for tow cars after then -  or Motorhomes for that matter ?

 

I can't see how electric cars are going to be upto the job so is it back to using horses ?

yell

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  • brightstar2
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    edited July 2017 #3

    Shan't be here then ! Well at least not caravanning - I shall be 101 then 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2017 #4

    Motorhomes are not cars.

    This could be why we see clubs turning towards MHs, tents, pods etc

    Anyway, I'm not going to worry about it.

  • Navigateur
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    edited July 2017 #5

    The government of the day will have found something else to extract tax from us by then.

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2017 #6

    I hope that I'll actually still be driving by 2040. 

    Likewise I'm not going to worry about something 23 TWENTY THREE years in the future

  • huskydog
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    edited July 2017 #7

    By that time I'll be dead ,so forgive me If I'm not bothered surprised

  • Pippah45
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    edited July 2017 #8

    I doubt I will be towing at 95 but I would expect the powers that be to be sure there was an alternative vehicle. 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited July 2017 #9

    We like to plan ahead, so it will be a trip to Mars, then calling back in on family on the Moon that year......adventure prior to dementia!

     

  • Milothedog
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    edited July 2017 #10

    I'll be 81undecided if I'm still here? I'll stick with a S/H tow car in the unlikely event I am still able to enjoy the hobby.................

  • hitchglitch
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    edited July 2017 #11

    By 2040 battery technology will be so good nobody would dream of putting liquid in a fuel tank. In fact, for cars, this will be more like 2030.

    If battery technology doesn't advance that quickly it will be some other system.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
    Rocky 2 buckets Forum Participant Posts: 7,101
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    edited July 2017 #12

    Think tax, Govt don't cut off revenue unless the next stream is planned. 23yrs?, Politicians?, promises?laughinglaughinglaughing

  • dmiller555
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    edited July 2017 #13

    There won't be room to move so we will all be in statics. frown

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  • nelliethehooker
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    edited July 2017 #15

    I'll only be 95 by then ans so I'm really concerned....won't be able to sleep tonight now!!cool

  • hitchglitch
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    edited July 2017 #16

    An hour after posting my comment I was reading a technical magazine and what did I see - VW have produced a concept battery version of its classic camper. It's called the ID Buzz. So there you have it.

  • obbernockle
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    edited July 2017 #17

    Can you provide a link to this government announcement please.

    Do you mean French government?

  • JayEss
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    edited July 2017 #18

    I'm assuming it refers to the French government's plans and have therefore ignored it until it's something the UK decides to copy 

    I'll be affected if it's introduced here but I'll probably not be touring so can't get too excited 

  • jennyc
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    edited July 2017 #19

    Despite improved efficiencies in petrol/ diesel engines I think that a ban is likely at some point, albeit delayed, due to rising requirements to reduce harmful emissions. Battery power, despite weight reduction and increased efficiency, suffers weight, capacity and the inefficient creation of recharging electricity, so is unlikely to dominate in the coming decades. Perhaps the combustion of hydrogen, created chemically within the vehicle, might suitably bridge today's automobile engine technology with power requirements. There are most certainly efforts to create portable hydrogen generators with sufficient output to power vehicles, currently under way.

  • Spriddler
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    edited July 2017 #20

    Me neither; crematoria use gas smile

  • cyberyacht
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    edited July 2017 #21

    I suppose the French setting fire to our internal combustion vehicles on the dockside will make a change from English lamb.

  • tigerfish
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    edited July 2017 #22

    Well I will be 95 by then and will have probably developed a liking for  the harp!  

    TF

  • obbernockle
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    edited July 2017 #23

    Unless this roumour can be substantiated I assume it is nothing more than an unsubstantiated roumour. 

  • JaRT
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    edited July 2017 #24

    I think you are confused, our government have announced nothing of the sort. Besides that even if they had there would be a ban on sales of new petrol and diesels so any real problem for owners of such vehicles wouldn't kick in for many years after that.

     

    As to your confusion I think you mean the French govt.

  • Freedom a whitebox
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    edited July 2017 #25

    I am not worried about a ban in 2040, pollution has to be addressed!

    My concern will be how we get there. Increased taxes and zone charges for any diesel registered before 2015/ Euro6, will hit hard on those on a fixed income,those that can't afford to replace with a new vehicle. I would expect that older vehicles will become too expensive to use for the ordinary man/woman in the street. I for one, even with a scrapage scheme could not be in a position to replace mine. Secondhand prices are governed by the demand for resale. No market for older vehicles, could be the factor that prevents being able finance a suitable tow vehicle or Motorhome. If that happens, there would be an issue with booking a pitch, as nobody with be able to get to them..  

     

  • Spriddler
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    edited July 2017 #26

    Quite. It's merely an aspiration.

    ('Aspiration'..........geddit? wink)

  • obbernockle
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    edited July 2017 #27

    🤣😤😓😤🙄🤔😁

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2017 #28

    I had lunch today and we were discussing electric cars as one of the group has bought a second hand Leaf. This interesting question came up:

    Are batteries heavier when fully charged? 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2017 #29

    I guess you could work it out, Corners. Batteries store electricity so if you know how much the battery holds and the weight of electricity, the calculation will be simple.wink

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2017 #30

    We worked out the answer is yes, but the tyres lose more weight in lost rubber than the battery. As you said the calculation was very simple (really)

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2017 #31

    Much as I thought, Corners. cool