Route to lake garda from zeebrugge
We are intending travelling to lake garda from Zeebrugge in Sept. Can anyone recommend a paper route map. I usually buy a large Michelin road atlas for France but not sure if there is one for the whole Belgium/Luxembourg/Germany/Switzerland /Italy areas. We will be travelling on toll free motorways as far as possible.
Any advice on proposed routes would be good- I don't like sheer drops and narrow roads ! I usually plan with a mixture of Michelin route planner, paper map and sat nav but I'm I'm finding it to be a daunting task. We will have 3 weeks in total and aim to have about 2 weeks in Garda.
Thank you.
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HT11
Michelin do a series of road atlases that cover all the countries you are travelling through. Just depends whether you want to take a library with you!!! I would have thought a decent sat nav would be a better investment if you don't already have one. From where you are crossing I would be inclined to travel through Belgium to Aachen and join the German motorway system and head south for Fussen and then through Austria and over the Brenner into Italy. Not completely toll free but not too bad.
David
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If you're going to Lake Garda then the Brenner Pass is the better option. As DK suggests above, Aachen then Saabrucken, A10 Permasens to Landau, Karlsruhe, Stuttgart, Ulm, Fussen, Fern Pass to Austria then the Brenner into Italy. Very easy with a caravan. The motorway vignette for Austria will cost approx. £8 for 10 days. The Gottard Tunnel is ideal for the Lake Maggiore and Como areas but the Brenner is better for Garda.
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HT11. We have done the route many times and I have more direct route from Zeebrugge no need to touch France or Luxembourg. I am in Austria at the mo and on iPad I can send or put the route by map and a route with ACSI site stops on here this evening when I get my Laptop out.
Cheers DianneT
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Going back to the part of your original query on maps, Michelin do have an atlas: Germany, Benelux, Austria & Switzerland which should cover all of your route north of the Italian border. It's spiral bound and listed at £13.99. It is available on the club 25% discount offer.Scale is Germany 1:300,000, Benelux, Switzerland & Austria 1:400,000 and also includes Czech Republic at 1:600,000.
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HT11. If you email me on dvphillips14@hotmail.com I will send you the Route and Map. Tried but they will not load on here.
Regards DianneT
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Go to Membership, click on the dark membership offer bit. There is also an offer with dash4it for maps. For what I bought the Michelin offer was the best.
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Good morning,
I am a coach driver and have driven through Europe many times.
Where ever we go I use my Snooper S6800 though designed for coaches it does for our caravan as well and never sends me down roads which I cannot get down with a long vehicle or width wise.
Snooper also do a Caravan and Motorhome satnav.
They are expensive but worth it
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We have just got back from Lake Garda. I drive a heavy motorhome so it is a little different to you but I went Zebrugger to Kyllburg first night, then just south of Ulm second night. Through Austria via Fern pass then Brenner pass on the old road, which you cannot do pulling a caravan, then Italian motorway to Garda. On the way back I came up the same motorway but then off toll to Austria via the Reisa pass, very good for a caravan & stopped at Prutz, then via Fern Pass again & stopped at Karlsruhe then Polleur in Belgium. Kyllburg & Polleur were ok sites for me but possible a bit steep access roads for you, the rest was no problem. Huge delays getting off & onto motorway at Garda due to volume of traffic on way back at end of German school holidays and delays around Stuttgart & Karlsruhe re volume of traffic again.The only tolls were in Italy & to bypass Innsbruck. Regards, Roy
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Hi Jim, we already had a Go Box but the 45 E credit on it expires after 24 months & to get it back again you have activate the box again by putting another 75 E credit on it, so that is what we had to do. Getting the Go Box is easy if you have registered your vehicle & all the documents electronically with Go Maut before you leave the UK then you just take the email they send you to the fuel station where you buy the box from, they set it all up for you too. You MUST get it though before you touch any Austrian motorways. Unlike getting a vignette not all fuel stations are points of sale for the box. Their 'Unterwegs' App is very good as it has a section for points of sale & you can manage your account from it to if you link them. I bought mine originally, and topped up this May, at the fuel station, OMV Tyroltours, on the 179 Fern Pass road before Nassereith. The station is on the right side of the road heading south so is very easy to access & the fuel is cheaper in Austria, a little. I am aware there are also points of sale at fuel stations, Shell I think, at Imst & Telfs and I know that there is a Tankestell fuel station at Prutz which I have used. If you avoid the Landeck Tunnell there are no tolls though using the route Fern Pass then Ressia Pass. My 3.90 E for by passing Innsbruck just made it easy for me to get onto the Old Brenner Road, which motorhomes can use even over 3.5t. I have also noticed a fuel station in Germany on the motorway before Fussen that displays the 'Go' sign so I presume they also sell Go Boxes. I shall use mine again next year then return it so my cash (117 E) is not in their bank and start again the next time I need one. Having the vehicle already registered on their system will make it simple again. Hope this is helpful for you. Regards, Roy
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Thank you for this info, Roy. Have you seen this offer of a FREE Go-Box and a monthly billing service similar to the Sanef tag for France ?
What do you think ?
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We've just had a caravan to Garda and Venice, coming home via Innsbruck.
The Fern and Brenner passes are easy to drive.
We had more detailed maps of France and Italy but 'made do' with a Europe map that is 1 inch = 12 miles - that and the Sat Nav was adequate.
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Hi Jim, I was not aware of this offer but the problem with a Go Direct account is that it could not be paid with a UK Credit or Debit card or be paid direct from a UK bank account by direct debit. I am not familiar with the payment method they are suggesting with this offer, it may be possible, but the best system is the Go Direct payment where they bill you monthly for what you use and take the payment from your bank or credit card, it just is not available from UK institutions as I've said, perhaps this method of payment via a ASFINAG is now but it certainly wasn't before as they needed payment as outlined? Regards, Roy
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I've just checked up Jim & the post payment method is still the same, only Austrian cards/Banks so it is no use to us. See below, you have to read the small print!
https://www.asfinag.at/media/1662/02_mo_v47_appendix-2-methods-and-means-of-payment_150417_en.pdf
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