Touring abroad in Winter

David and Emma
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Hello, my name is David Watkins. I have always dreamed of spending the winter months (Jan-Mar) touring France and Spain with the caravan. Ideally we  would work out way down as far as the Marbella area and spend about a month there. I would appreciate some advice on when would be the best time to book the Ferry Crossings and various sites. If I leave the bookings until later this year, is there a danger that the better sites will be booked up. Any other general advice would be appreciated. Thank you.

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  • eurortraveller
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    edited May 2017 #2

    Welcome David. As far as ferries go there is no rush at all to book for January  if you are going out from Dover, that can be done a week or two in advance, but if you want a direct ferry from Portsmouth  to Spain they book up much more quickly - so phone Brittany Ferries next week and ask when their bookings for January will open. 

    As far as the journey  goes the weather in January is not likely not encourage you to linger in France - .It will probably be a 1000 mile push from Calais before you are likely to get better weather around Valencia. Most people drive out via the Bordeaux side of France - there are enough sites open to do that. 

    As far as sites in Spain goes you must rely on recommendations from other people, but they will be along soon. Good luck to you both.

  • oldagetraveller
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    edited May 2017 #3

    There are two ways of overwintering in Spain.  You can drive down to your chosen resort, with overnight stops en route depending on how far you like to travel each day, then sit in the sun for a month or two, or you can take your time, use your caravan as it is surely meant to be used, and wander, following the weather and the sites.

    If the first is your choice, then the sort of good site you would choose does get quite full and pr-booking might be advised, particularly the sites along the "Costas".  If you choose the latter, looking at smaller, touring sites outside the main resort areas, then you would not need to book at all.  We have had three winters in Spain, 2008/9, 2011/12 and 2014/5 and the only site we ever booked was over Christmas in 2014, when we wanted a guaranteed mailbox for our new ACSI book and card.  Even then there was space on the site (Pinar San Jose).

    As Eurortraveller says, the journey through France at that time of year is one to get through quickly as the weather is miserable.  Easiest route would be via Tours, Bordeaux, Bayonne, then either via Zaragoza & Valencia or Burgos & Madrid.  Bear in mind that while the Med coast is mild and pleasant, the coast between Gibraltar and Cadiz is much less crowded, mild, but windy.  More than 100 miles inland it is very very cold.  One winter in Madrid we were camping in sub zero temperatures.

    If you do want to tour, or even just take your chances on the way down and back, the ACSI card is a must.  It will pay for itself within a week.  However for longer stays many sites offer a discount better than the ACSI rate, so check individual campsite websites.

    For some ideas you could look at our travel blogs, and I know many others on this forum have travel blogs too.

    Click here for our blogs. oldagetraveller

  • Morris Traveller
    Morris Traveller Forum Participant Posts: 56
    edited May 2017 #4

    Getting across France is not  a problem. The received wisdom is that it is better to head west to reduce the possibility of encountering snow.

    There are sites open near Dreux (2); on the outskirts of Tours; at Poitiers; at Bordeaux (2) and at Urrugne.  Generally, travellers show little inclination to linger in France in January as it can be bitterly cold.

    The only exception is the site at Urrugne (Larrouleta)  - every time we stay overnight, there are signs that people have settled in for more than a 1 night stay, with full awnings up.

    If you are heading for the Marbella area, then from the border there are sites open around Madrid and it's an easy drive south.

    Camping Cabopino on the Marbella outskirts is an attractive site, and it's well worth booking as it is very popular.  There is a bus stop outside the site and the frequent bus service takes you to Marbella quickly and cheaply. A short stroll from the site is a pretty harbour village and beach with plenty of restaurants.

    The only downside is the presence of the processionary caterpillars at that time of year - something to consider if you have  a dog as most, if not all, pitches are under pine trees.

  • David and Emma
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    edited May 2017 #5

    Thank you all very much, one thing is clear, don't dwell in France in January. I would like to spend a week or so near Paris so it would be best to spend some time in France on the way back. When booking sites, do they require full payment up front or a deposit? Many thanks again for your advice. Regards, David.

  • chasncath
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    edited May 2017 #6

    "As far as ferries go there is no rush at all to book for January if you are going out from Dover"

    Following the snowplough on the A26 out of Calais!

  • ValDa
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    edited May 2017 #7

    We've caravanned near Paris in early May, and it was still bitterly cold so be prepared.  You may be lucky in March and have hot weather but it can be very changeable early in the year and you may have hot sun during the day, but freezing temperatures at night (or even during the day!)

  • David and Emma
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    edited May 2017 #8

    Hi chasncath and ValDa, thank you very much for sharing your experiences. It seems to me that March-May would be a safer bet to start our adventure. Thanks again for all your advice. Regards David & Emma.

  • Morris Traveller
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    edited May 2017 #9

    What are you so apprehensive about? If, as I infer from your OP, you want to tour in Winter, and thus, presumably, escape the UK Winter, then please do not be deterred from going to Spain in Winter. We do, every year, as do thousands of other "snowbirds" from all over Northern Europe. Were it that bleak, weather wise,and were the journey that difficult, the place would be deserted. But it is not. Sites are very busy with people having a good time.

    We leave home on the 2nd January and make our way back sometime around the middle of March. The only exception has been this year but that  was because we went to New Zealand for 2 months instead. To have our "Spanish Winter Blues Breaking Break" we went South through November and December instead.

    We have encountered snow only once in all our years of travelling that way. And we were not held up because the snow ploughs were much in evidence. Once we get to Spain we enjoy much better weather than we would do at home, escape the Winter Blues, and have a thoroughly good experience.

    Coming home in March, the weather has always been much better than it was heading South in January.  And we do take our time getting home. We linger a bit longer in various places. Let's face it, nights can be cold in the UK at that time of year. With a caravan with all its creature comforts you will be fine.

    Paris in March? Why not? We have visited Paris at many different times of the year (admittedly travelling usually by Eurostar  and saying in a hotel) and haven't noticed any hardship, even when we stayed a week in our caravan on the outskirts.

    Please, do go is that is your wish. You will not regret  it. For us, it's heaps better than staying home in a grey Pembrokeshire Winter.

     

     

     

     

  • eurortraveller
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    edited May 2017 #10

    Caravans are not the only way. Spain is not the only place to go. They may like me have other ideas for January. 

  • Morris Traveller
    Morris Traveller Forum Participant Posts: 56
    edited May 2017 #11

    Of course. But I was only responding to the original request. And, it seems, that the change of mind is that of a time shift, not an intention to tour in Spain a caravan.

  • paul56
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    edited May 2017 #12

    Sounds a great idea - driving down to the sun but my wife unfortunately won't hear of it - so I have to suffer a weeks skiing in Jan, a week in Lanzarote in Feb and then if I'm lucky another week skiing in March. Drive down to the sun. Apparently thousands do!

  • Jaydug
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    edited May 2017 #13

    I've been doing it for more than 20 years.   I leave at the beginning of November and return home at the beginning of March.   I used to set off from Calais, having used either the tunnel or ferry crossing, but for the past four years I've travelled from Portsmouth to Bilbao or Santander.   My destination has sometimes been the Costa Blanca;  occasionally Portugal but more often the Costa del Sol.  

    In winter time the weather travelling through France can be unpleasantly wet and cold and once you are away from the coast in Spain, nights can be very cold with temperatures down below freezing.

    There are sites open during the winter months fairly close to the main routes through France and also in the Spanish interior.   On the Spanish coast route there are hundreds open throughout the year so it isn't necessary to book in advance.

    Ferry crossings are best booked as early as possible, not because of parking space but because cabins tend to get booked early.

    Now that I travel on my own I like to plan a different route through Spain each year, taking two weeks or so travelling down to the southern coast.   I spend hours planning the route and where I'm going to stay and what I want to see but I never book any sites in advance.      For the past three years I've written a blog about my journeys here.

  • David and Emma
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    edited May 2017 #14

    Thank you all for your advice and experiences, we are really looking forward to our 'Europe Experience' and will start to plan our route after our next UK trip. We set off early in the morning for 10 days taking in Abergavenny-Pandy and Freshwater East-Pembroke so might bump into you Morris Traveller. Take care all. Regards David & Emma.

  • Morris Traveller
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    edited May 2017 #15

    We live just a very short drive from Fresh East, however, we are away ourselves at the moment. Arriving home on 25th. If you will still be there, we might be able to arrange  a meet up and we can give you much more info?

  • crissy
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    edited June 2017 #16

    We travelled to Spain mid January this year and meandered back through France mid February.

    When we arrived in Spain we experienced storms and there was snow around us in many areas of Spain but it missed us.

    Weather in the Valencia region definitely better than the UK and we rarely needed heating in the caravan and ate all our meals in the awning.

    We started our return to the UK mid February. Apart from 3 days windy and rainy weather at around the French border, we were really lucky with weather in France. 14-18 degrees  average on our journey up and during 10 days in the Vendee. 

    My advice, go for it! Take clothes for all seasons and enjoy.