European Travel
We are thinking of travelling, through France and Germany later this year. I'm concerned about migrant problems in general. As anyone encountered any problems if so are there places to avoid?
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Try the Overseas section. I think there are threads on the subject there.
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I'm not quite that stupid.
The thread has now been moved.
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Attacks have flared up recently in London, Paris, Rouen, Nice, Marseille, Brussels, Berlin, Munich, Stockholm and other cities, but these were caused by terrorists living there, not by would be migrants camped at the ports.
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Places in France to avoid are what appear to be commercial touring/holiday sites but are actually for 'Travellers' - The signs will say something along the lines of:
Gens de Voyage.
The only time I have had any close contact with migrants in 30 years of touring was on a commercial site at Saintes (in Charente Maritime) when a people carrier type of vehicle arrived, parked beside my m/h and disgorged about fifteen swarthy occupants aged from maybe 18 months to 90 yrs old. A tarpaulin was strung overhead between trees, baguettes and cheese were fetched from the local shop and they slept outside without any bedding at all.
Next morning a posse of Gendarmes arrived and took them away in an armoured truck.
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We use Calais and/or the Eurotunnel, and have never (at either site) witnessed 'problems' with migrants. We have seen them wandering along the autoroutes, looking very thin and cold, and also seen lots of young hungry-looking men in Calais itself, but they have been calm, quiet, and polite when we have seen or been in interactions with them.
Don't worry, as Deleted User User says.
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When you are returning to the UK, practice good security. Keep your 'van or motorhome locked at all times, especially when waiting for the ferry. Border agency -Passport Control will carry out a search of all units returning to the UK, they look in all the underseat lockers, cupboards, wardrobes toilet compartments etc to ensure that there are no extra passengers.
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It's not like that at Roscoff !
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We go to France, Germany and other countries several times a year and the answer to your question is 'No' to having encountered any problems. Keep things in perspective and, as already advised, just apply the same common sense and caution that you would apply at home. As in London, Birmingham, Blackburn etc there are areas of Paris, Cologne, Berlin etc that I would not enter especially after dark; but this applies to anywhere. Many years ago went to Washington (USA) on business and our hotel advised us not to venture into areas just a couple of blocks from the main tourist areas.
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Nor at Dieppe in my experience. Probably made 20 crossings in my m/h in the past 6 years and never been searched. In fact they never even ask me if my gas is turned off which the loaders always ask at Newhaven.
Comeyras said.......
'Many years ago went to Washington (USA) on business and our hotel advised us not to venture into areas just a couple of blocks from the main tourist areas'.
When I was working in New York I mentioned to a colleague that I wanted "to see the whores on 7th Avenue " (as lyrics in the Simon and Garfunkel song). He advised me that whenever I went beyond 5th Avenue it was essential to have cash with me for the muggers, which I did, but never saw any mugggers.
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Yes, stay away from sites used by U.K. migrants looking for a better lifestyle, especially ones in the CC overseas book. We went to Osnabruck to look over our old haunts on the way here to Croatia. My old barracks had been turned over to a migrant camp. Clever these Germans, Brits out, migrants in, good use for all the old BAOR camps!!!
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But it might be getting stricter in Plymouth?
Had a meal at The Dock last Thursday and saw Pont Aven arrive. Saw the trickle of vans and MH coming out and as we went to get in the car noticed a very large group of uniformed guys.Then as we left saw the Border Force mobile x-ray unit set up in the truck departure area with a truck about to pass through..
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it was very quiet at Poole back in January, and coming back at end of March Cherbourg had a few guards and we we checked, albeit very briefly....
never seen a 'migrant' and wouldnt know what one looked like...
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