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LiamNMiranda
LiamNMiranda Forum Participant Posts: 14
edited April 2017 in Introductions #1

Hi everyone I just wanted to take a few moments to say hi from me (Liam) and my partner Lizi.

recently just bought a custom 5th wheel motor caravan and we are so excited to get exploring the UK.

we are both young only 26, I have done bit of touring myself but never have I been a member of the club so cant wait to try all the lovely sites and meet like mined people on the way.

so our first trip is planned for august, rough route is over 2 weeks and will include: Pembrokeshire,snowdonia,chester,dales,whitby,york and home. if anyone has recommendations for sites on route please don't be shy. cant wait to read up on some of the posts on here for tips, hope to chat to as many like minded people as possible who share the touring bug. 

best wishes 

Liam N Lizi

 

 

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
    Rocky 2 buckets Forum Participant Posts: 7,101
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    edited April 2017 #2

    Beaut looking piece of kit L&Lcool, enjoy your tours.

  • Milothedog
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    edited April 2017 #3

    That's a fantastic outfit you have,  from what I have seen/experienced though, access & egress to sites may be a problem and a suitable size pitch could prove interesting.

     

    Hope you have a great time cool

    Ian.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2017 #4

    Hello, LnL.

    Sorry, but my tip is that you don't bring it to Cornwall. Otherwise, welcome to CT. 

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2017 #5

    Welcome to CT, Just a tip if the picture in your avatar is how it looks ,I would not go to a site without a telephone call first to advise the staff of your outfits size(how long is it!) as most sites will have length limit,

  • N1805
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    edited April 2017 #6

    Have seen similar large unit on Sandringham site & I am sure there will be other club sites you can use but as already said perhaps phone 1st to ensure they can accommodate.  Also seen some owners of similar vehicles post on CT but can’t unfortunately remember in which thread.  Enjoy your touring. 

  • Milothedog
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    edited April 2017 #7

    Out of curiosity Liam, do need to hold C+E entitlement to drive it ? Do you have to use a Tacho?

    I let my professional entitlements lapse when I retired early in 2012 as it was too much hassle to keep my CPC updated and I was due my next 5 yearly medical. would have cost me a fair bit for something I was unlikely to need ever again.

     

    Would love to see some more pictures if you can post them. It's certainly a thing of beauty in my eyes. Is the Unit/Tractor a F7 or F6

    Ian.

  • David2115
    David2115 Forum Participant Posts: 547
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    edited April 2017 #8

    Wow each to their own but that is one huge outfit that won't fit on most club site imho. Looks like something fairground people would use. I guess as u ar planning for August you won't be using it for occasional weekends away. 

  • DSB
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    edited April 2017 #9

    Hi Liam and Lizi.  Welcome to Club Together.  Great to hear from you - please keep us posted on how you are getting on.

    David

  • Bakers2
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    edited April 2017 #10

    Hello and welcome to CT and our great hobby.

    Boy that's a biggy surprised.  I can't help with sites or routes but as others have said check that the club sites you fancy can accommodate your size.  Will it be suitable to drive in the dales?  I have no idea, but I think routes would need serious consideration.  That said I bet it will attract some attention on site and you may want to charge for tours wink

  • ABM
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    edited April 2017 #13

    Cooo,  does  the  Club  do  manoeuvring  courses  for    beasties like  that,  please   surprised

     

    Actually  the  shower  unit  in  my  motor  looks  rather  like  that  one,  but  mine's  got  a  Toilet,  Folding  sink,  cupboard,  wheel  arch  ,, ,, ,, ,, ,, ,,  ,, ,,

  • LiamNMiranda
    LiamNMiranda Forum Participant Posts: 14
    edited April 2017 #14

    Evening all,

    Thank you for the Supportive comments and advice. I will say a little more about the truck as I feel it will answer some of your questions.

    So the truck is a volva FL6 urban tractor unit which started life at wincantons before been bought by the previous owner. he choose this make and model due to it been a urban tractor unit, all this means is its smaller then your conventional truck you see on motorways.It sits lower and is the same height as my friends high roof transit van plus the width is just bit wider then a Range Rover so not too bad on the country roads.The trailer started life as a yacht trailer so had no sides just a flat bed,It all came about when the previous owner wanted to travel with his son doing cycling competitions in Europe.He was a canal boat builder by trade and you can see the quality of his work throughout. due to the trailer been 34ft it doesn't require a MOT (36ft) legal limit and is registered as a motor caravan. Good points with this is one it does say on DVLA website you can pull this on a normal car license with grandad rights but it is dodgy ground, the 2nd been only the truck cab needs a MOT and if it does pack in then you can just replace the cab unit. I normally use a website called 5th wheel friendly sites, this lists all sites willing to take on such vehicles and surprisingly most are club sites which is nice but I would ring in advance as I have more then once to be told they don't. The plan for us is to tour for 7 months in North Yorkshire while working I've found 7 to 8 sites willing to have us which involved lots of visits comes good some not so good. So the august trip will be our first blow out of the year making sure the truck has a fresh service, MOT and isn't going to fall to bits anytime soon before we start touring in October this year. Anyone wanting to know more about these sort of vehicles just ask I could talk for hours laughing 

     

    Many thanks from LNL

  • LiamNMiranda
    LiamNMiranda Forum Participant Posts: 14
    edited April 2017 #15

    Maybe this is something we can start haha. with it having a 3 axle trailer it does turn rather easy when reversing, all i would say is practice before you try to reverse onto a pitch for the first time with half the site watching you embarassed someone mentioned earlier about it attracting attention the previous owner had many incidents including one where he was asked which band he was driving for haha.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2017 #16

    I wish you good luck, LnL. I think you might need it.

  • Steve Scott
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    edited April 2017 #17

    Hi LiamnLizi Welcome to to the Club, I look forward to seeing you on a site.One of the Wardens drives a bigger rig than that but has other members have said he phones ahead.Always takes the last pitch in a line so he doesn't block anyone's view. Good touring

    Steve

    PS Your not going up Scotland next month are yousmilesmile

  • N1805
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    edited April 2017 #18

    It’s certainly an innovative way of recycling & it looks great inside.  I guess the problem you’re having finding sites to accept your outfit is not only due to size/manoeuvrability but weight also if only grass pitches are available.   Good luck to you both & enjoy you outfit.

  • LiamNMiranda
    LiamNMiranda Forum Participant Posts: 14
    edited April 2017 #19

    Where in South Yorkshire are you from? I'm currently deployed away and not back until august so won't be heading anywhere soon.

    any advice on storage locations in South Yorkshire ?

  • Milothedog
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    edited April 2017 #20

    Thanks for the info and pictures Liam,  Wish you both all the best for a great summer exploring the UK in your new toycool

    Ian.

  • compass362
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    edited April 2017 #21

    We just back from the Buxton site for a week , we had a TABB trailer in the next pitch to us ........it looked tiny .

    Ive a feeling most caravans / motorhomes next to your unit will look tiny too , welcome & hopefully we may catch a sight of you ...........👍

  • LiamNMiranda
    LiamNMiranda Forum Participant Posts: 14
    edited April 2017 #22

    Evening all, routes now set just need to book sites any info on sites would be much appreciated. 

    Day1 lydney to Chester 

    Day 2 Chester zoo

    Day 3 Peak District 

    Day 4 Peak District 

    Day 5 Clumber park

    Day 6 Clumber park 

    Day 7 Yorkshire dales / Whitby 

    Day 8 York 

    Day 9 York 

    Day 10 Home 

    like I said above any info on sites in the areas would be great especially with the size of my unit 👍

     

     

     

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2017 #23

    I can't help with the sites as I have no experience of using such a large unit on them, LnL, but I'd suggest choosing sites and ringing the wardens to see if your unit will fit.

    It puzzles me that you describe it as a motorhome when it seems to be a trailer caravan albeit of the 5th wheel variety. 🤔

     

  • LiamNMiranda
    LiamNMiranda Forum Participant Posts: 14
    edited April 2017 #24

    Evening Tinwheeler,

    With something like this been a self build and the size it's very grey on what rules apply and what classification it should have. On the DVLA website you kind of have to read between the lines mostly common sense really. So this one is registered as a motorcaravan but this is where it gets tricky, because it still has a GW of 23000kg it's tested as PLG and taxed the same. Unlike you normal motorhomes which would be a category 4,The even funnier bit is the only part that is tested is the truck it's self. The trailer is left alone as it doesn't require a rest due to 1 been shorter then 36ft and 2 it's private use. I've even asked for the trailer to be tested previously and it can't be done but they do have a quick look over it for me but nothing official. Now I don't agree with it but that's what DVLA states so that's how it is I suppose.so really it's just a giant caravan pulled by a truck and if the truck rattles into nothing I can buy a new one and attach it to the trailer and then re register as a motorcaravan with the new registration haha. Reference the trip I like to call and book over the phone to avoid any nasty surprises. By the way has anyone been using a snooper sat nav system on here ? 

     

    Thanks 

    LnL 

  • LiamNMiranda
    LiamNMiranda Forum Participant Posts: 14
    edited April 2017 #25

    Also while I am on this evening I wanted to ask your opinions on the truck, if it was to pull onto a site you was at, would you think what the hell is this monstrosity it spoils the site? And would it effect your stay if you was a nabour or do you think it wouldn't matter? 

    I am looking into other methods of towing it for example pickups like the Americans do as they look less imposing plus it gives me a easy run around when I arrive. 

     

    Many thanks 

    LnL 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2017 #26

    To be perfectly frank, LnL, I think you are going to have great difficulty trying to use that unit on C&MC sites. You might fare better on C&CC or privately owned sites. 

    With regards to seeing it on site, I've no problem with it at all. Sites are to be used and aren't there for their aesthetic beauty. Having said that, I would find it intimidating and overbearing to have a unit of that size parked next to me on a typical club site. However, I doubt very much that will happen as the majority of normal size pitches simply won't cater for it.

    I'm sorry if that sounds harsh but you did ask and I think a hefty dose of realism is needed especially concerning the use of club sites. I wish you good luck and hope you enjoy your travels. 

  • N1805
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    edited April 2017 #27

    Saw these 2 & another [no photo opportunity of that 1] on Sandringham Club Site in Feb this year [out of season].  No idea of their length/weights etc .  1 pulled by a truck cab, the other pulled by a pickup type vehicle.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited April 2017 #28

    No problem at all, either visually or as a neighboursmile. I'd probably bug you to let me see inside mindlaughing

  • Milothedog
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    edited April 2017 #29

    I wouldn't have an issue either, like R2B said I would be asking to have a nose aroundcool

    I was going to reply to your insurance post but it's locked ?

    Maybe worth contacting Lancaster Insurance, I have my Classic car insured with them and they will insure most types of specialist Vehicle.

    Ian.

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2017 #30

    When booking any site on your itinery ring site direct and confirm with site staff ,suggest you do not do it online

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2017 #31

    The track cab fifth wheel I think belongs to a warden ,possibly at Thetford Forest cc site this year ,it might be an idea to give him a call for more information