Electricity Extra?

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  • brue
    brue Forum Participant Posts: 21,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited February 2017 #32

    You'll find some CLs have metered pitches, some with metered payments others where the owners give you an allowance and you pay the difference if you use more. We've not had any problems with either and it certainly makes you aware of using someone else's power!

    Always worth checking if you're not sure. I think the great majority include power in the price.

  • David2115
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    edited February 2017 #33

    I personally think heating an awning is a waste. If time but as a previous poster has said if electricity is charged for within the cost of the pitch then it can be used as is seen fit. It's no ones business and I find it uncomfortable other members peering into other people's awnings invading privacy. 

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited February 2017 #34

    D2, it seems some folk class 'curtain twitching' as their main reason for going away I'm afraidfrown

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2017 #35

    Could be one of their "home" comfortswink

  • Tammygirl
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    edited February 2017 #36

    Well I've certainly seen awnings with a heater in them, in fact we have a member on here who uses one regularly. Some sites I've been on do say NO heater in awnings, one site we were on did enforce it if the owner saw you with one on, he would either insist that it goes off or ask you to leave.

  • JayEss
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    edited February 2017 #37

    How does everyone feel about people who go out for the day leaving the heating on in their unit?

    What about those who get so hot on a November evening that they have to open windows?

    Is it worth setting a maximum permissible setting on the thermostat? I have mine set at 18 so anything above that is wasteful wink

     

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2017 #38

    Some wardens will trip the bollard if they note a heater on in unatended leisure vehicleswink

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited February 2017 #40

    I'd go one further Jay, anyone actually enjoying their break should report themselves to the 'hair shirt' society for disciplinary measures to be taken, I feel a harrumph coming onyell

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2017 #41

    You might well use a winking smiley!! Yes, when I was younger my family would go away in November having scraped ice off the car. We did not use heating but we had a few gas mantle lights. No problem. Fast forward 35 years and with arthritis in my spine once in the caravan I set for 21C.

    As for heating in the awning. we no longer have an awning. When we did, at Christmas, I might well sit in the awning for half an hour with a glass of scotch after evening meal. I would have a 2kw fan heater aimed at my legs with the caravan door open into the awning. After my scotch it would go off. What I do notice often is folk that have all the roof lights open wide throughout the evening when the temperature outside is 5 C and I think that is a tad wasteful. 25 years ago I had my father living with us as he had come out of hospital and needed building up. He felt the cold and I well remember him coming out of his bed sit room, through our sitting room where he and the family would socialise through the day and into the living area. My wife was out and I was in a T shirt with all the windows open wide to cool down. 

  • David2115
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    edited February 2017 #42

    Doesn't everyone leave the heating on in the van when they go out ?

  • JayEss
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    edited February 2017 #43

    I don't so, no, not everyone does. Mine rarely gets switched on as the van is really well insulated. 

    I'd wager most leave the van heating on though.

  • huskydog
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    edited February 2017 #44

    I don't , 

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited February 2017 #45

    We don't normally, if we're going out for the day, but may leave it on, in cold weather, if we're out for a short walk of 1/2 hr or so with the dog.

  • GTP
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    edited February 2017 #46

    Well I don't....the van is well insulated and I use the app on my iPhone to switch the heating back on about an hour before we return....

  • David2115
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    edited March 2017 #47

    Ours is on set temp in thermostat with alde heating so i guess it's not always on unless it drops below that setting. 

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2017 #48

    For us it depends. for 12 of the 14 weeks we are away I normally rack the heating down to 15C and it will come on rarely I expect. For our two weeks in December I will leave the heating on at around 17C when we do out

  • peedee
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    edited March 2017 #49

    Yes otherwise it takes too long for the van to warm up again on our return. I do the same if running on no EHU. The real answer to stop excessive use of electricity and keep pitch fees low is to fit meters.

    peedee

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2017 #50

    I doubt that on larger sites (rather than a CL) that it would make much difference PD. If there are 20 vans on site and 2 are using a full time heater in the awning 24/7 it probably means that al are paying an extra 30p or so

  • Fisherman
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    edited March 2017 #51

    No, most vans are insulated to keep them warm. We have ours on thermostat at night and it rarely comes on. Yes even away last week. Don't understand the need for this heating " just because its free". Its just a reason for site fees to increase for us all because a few are wasteful. We should go to charging extra for Awnings etc to make it a more level playing field.

  • dmiller555
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    edited March 2017 #52

    Ours stays on all the time under the control of the thermostat but I do reduce the temperature a little at night or when we go out.

    I'm happy to be charged separately for electricity provided it's metered. It's what happens at home. 

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2017 #53

    If I was running a site I would prefer no meter. If a few abuse the system then I end up charging about 30p more per night say. Sooner that than having to read meters on departure and faff with collection when I or my staff could be otherwise engaged.

    I would consider it a nuisance for all

  • JayEss
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    edited March 2017 #54

    So there's a wide variety on patterns of heating use already. 

    I rarely have the heating on at all. German van with good insulation so don't need it. If it is on it's at the lowest power setting and switched off at night. Don't use an awning heater. Out most of the time with heating switched off  

    I'm probably using less power than most on the average club site yet some think I should be charged more. Cheers for that. Very inclusive undecided

  • cyberyacht
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    edited March 2017 #55

    The only thing I have on when absent from the van is the fridge and battery charger. As for trying to heat an awning. A waste of time. If I'm feeling the cold, I retreat into the van.

  • peedee
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    edited March 2017 #56

    Believe you me ET it does make a difference. You should see the lengths some go to to limit use when they have to pay for what they use.

    peedee

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2017 #57

    Well if paying around 12p/kw hour I would not be worrying personally. 

    Cyber:The only thing I have on when absent from the van is the fridge and battery charger.

    We often leave the heating on in the 'van whilst we are out but set low and unlikely to come on. This changes however over Christmas when temperatures are closer to 0C rather than 10C. Then it is usually set for 18C  

  • dmiller555
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    edited March 2017 #58

    18c is arctic, who does one avoid iced tea at such low temperatures.laughing

  • KjellNN
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    edited March 2017 #59

    We have the Alde heating, so prefer to keep the fabric of the van warm when we are out so we come back to a reasonable temperature in the van.

    Overnight we use the night set back feature, we prefer a  cool bedroom so set it to 13 degrees.  In the morning it steps up to 18 degrees, and when sitting around in the evening we use 21 degrees.

    When out, in colder weather we leave it on 16-18 degrees, in summer it would of  course be switched off.

    We never heat our awning, we only use a Fiamma Zip, and prefer to sit inside if it is too cold to sit out.

    No problem with metered power, if it is expensive then we use gas as that is cheaper for us.

  • PR1
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    edited March 2017 #60

    Joining this conversation a bit late, but was on a CC site in December, and the warden there had two large electric heaters in his awning!

  • Metheven
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    edited March 2017 #61

    Faffing around with temperatures, just leave it turned up the only adjustment needed is how much to open the window.