ACSI site fees
Can anyone advise if the ACSI discount price quoted is the total price, or is there an additional price per person, as in theCC site fees?
Thankyou,
Chris and Yvonne
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The price is inclusive for a standard pitch, two adults, car and caravan (or tent or motorhome or folding camper), and includes awning, electricity, and one dog - but you will pay a supplement for any more than two people (including for children unless the sign has the three children under 6 free symbol). You may also pay a supplement for a 'superior' pitch, for extra amps of electricity, and there is sometimes a 'tourist tax' - but on most sites we've stayed on we've never paid extra for pitch, or for electricity and the daily tourist tax is usually a modest amount (in France that is - I think these extra charges are more common, and more expensive in some other countries).
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ACSI site fee covers:
Pitch
O'night for 2 adults
Car and caravan and awning
Electricity
Hot shower
One dog at sites that accept them
VAT
Not include is tourist tax, Reservation fee, extra elecricity plus some more.
All this is covered in the ACSI handbook.
Just the 2 of us in our caravan have only ever paid the tourist tax on top of the quoted fee.
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We have sometimes been quoted extra because we wanted a better pitch i.e. lake or riverside but often when we came to pay we have not been charged but you can't rely on it. Usually we have been charged a few cents more per night for tourist tax.
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If EHU is metered then the ACSI price includes only 4kwh, so if metered remember to check what the extra kwhs will be charged at.
Expect to pay between 55 and 75 cents per kwh in, for example, Germany.
Toutist taxes in some countries can be as much as 2 euros per person per night.
Also check whether credit/debit cards are accepted, and whether there is any extra charge for using a card.
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In Germany and Austria you will find the tourist tax varies where it is situated from nil to 2 euros per person. The most expensive is usually on sites where there is a lake or a popular tourist area in Germany a Spa town, a town with Bad in front of it especially. The campsite does not set the tax, the local council does.
It doesn't matter whether the Site is 1 or 5 star. We stop on a 5 star site in Germany where there is no Tourist Tax. Most German sites meter Electricity but we find in Austria most don't.
DianneT
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It's worth noting that some campsites have a limited number pitches allocated to the ACSI discount scheme: these are usually smaller and less desirable pitches. We've come across this mainly in Italy. The site then offer you a better pich for a few euros more!
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Just a point about the kilowatt allowance where electricity is metered. We came across a site in Germany at Inzell that only allowed 2Kw per night before they started charging, and no mention in the ACSI Book!!! I would accept that it is fairly rare for this to be the case but perhaps always worth checking. In a way it was their loss as rather than use our own facilities we used theirs!!!
David
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Three sites we have frequented in the past in Spain; Kiko Park, Bella Vista, and Los Madrilles, all meter electricity consumption for ACSI and other users. We've always managed to to stay within the 4kWh per 24 hours, while using our travelling kettle, fridge, lights and 800W heater ( sparingly) and gas for cooking. Early Spring so not too cold.
NB: Kiko Park and Bella Vista are on the Club winter sites list.
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As usual The comments and advice given have been invaluable
Many thanks to you all
Chris and Yvonne
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Only thing we have ever paid extra for has been local taxes.
Some sites charge a few euros per night, some only one or two euros per night, Some charge nothing extra.
Personally, I think that local taxes should be included in the nightly rate. If a site then wants to move up a band, they can. But at least we would then know what the full cost will be.
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Tourist taxes are set by the local Commune, and therefore can change, just like our council taxes. They aren't something sites can 'absorb' into their prices, but have to be charged per person as extras so that everyone is aware of exactly what they are paying to contribute towards the local tourist infrastructure. It's rarely more than one euro per person, and often a lot less, so hardly to break the bank even over a two week holiday..
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No it doesn't break the bank and I'm certainly not asking sitess to 'absorb' the cost.......just to include them in the set price per night for two people.
If this means that they chose to move up a price band, then fine. But then we know what we will actually have to pay.
No extra cost to us, no additional burden on them. Everyone's a winner and we all know where we stand.
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In addition to what Val has already mentioned I don't think the ACSI system allows a site to "up" a band as the price is decided on what their non ACSI rates are. Probably based on a percentage, at least that is my understanding from various discussions I have had.
David
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In France I have always found the taxe de sejour to be reasonable. Its when you get to Germany and Austria where their tax can make a substantial difference to the price per night. It's usually a combination of a tourist tax and environmental tax which in some cases can add €4 a night to the bill.
David
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As DK says the cost is usually low. We have stayed places where the tax applied for the first week only and others where it varied depending on your group size.
The only place it came as a surprise was in Austria where it was €4.
I knew there was tax but based on every other time I had paid-in other countries-was expecting a few cents a day not the €4 so it was me assuming that was the problem.
I don't see how sites could include a variable tax in a fixed price even if they knew, which most likely they don't,when the publish their prices.
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The most expensive we found was in Holland, there was a tourist tax, a rubbish tax and an environmental tax, Euro 2.20 per head per night.
The site was 17 euros, so the extra 4.40 per night was over 25% extra.
A considerable price hike to us.
Yes, mainly they tell you when you arrive, but we would like to know before we arrive, so we could possibly choose to go elsewhere.
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I would think the sites would certainly know what their local taxes are.
I would not expect them to include it in their prices, but rather to say that there will be an extra charge, and indicate how much it is likely to be.
Especially where it is a not insignificant extra sum.
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I think KellNN's idea that the ACSI Card guides should indicate in the symbols when a tourist tax applies is a good one. Perhaps if everyone can send an email to ACSI, with that suggestion, they just may take notice.
Another thought: if anyone meets an ACSI inspector whilst on site it would be good to mention it to them too. We've often met them in campsite receptions, or going around sites with a clipboard - and generally they are interested in views of those staying on a site.
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That assumes you have access to the internet.
We generally do not plan more than a couple of days ahead so cannot check all sites before leaving home, and do not have internet on our phones, so in past years have only had internet in the 3 Feel at Home countries, or if it is free or reasonably priced on a site.
Now there are far more Feel at Home countries, we will be able to check things more easily.
But as Val said, it would be even easier if it was in the ACSI book.
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Easter is late this year, so we too have found we are in the peak price band at the beginning of our trip.
Have booked River Breamish for a few nights, but I think it was working out at around £28, which is far more than we are happy with, so will likely see if we can get on the CL just over the road instead.
Booked a CL near Harwich, but need one more about half way between there and Alnwick.
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Off topic, but it's something I'd like to know: out of interest, which CL near Harwich have you booked KjellNN, and have you used it before? I've managed to persuade OH to do the Harwich route at the end of August (we usually do the tunnel, but are going to Germany for a change). We do have friends near Ipswich, but it looks like they may not be at home, so we need a plan B.
Apologies for being OT.
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Ina, Dairy House Farm, listed under Manningtree, was another reasonable CL which we used, though if we had had a Motorhome we would have simply stayed overnight at Harwich ferry port.
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