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  • Kennine
    Kennine Forum Participant Posts: 3,472
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    edited January 2017 #152

    The CC struggles to remind their customer base that last century it was formed as a club for rallyists..and everybody was a club member.  That concept  has moved on as the business has grown into a multimillion pound Leisure industry retailing goods and services.  It can no longer be considered as a traditional cozy little Club run by well meaning amateurs.  The business needs a professional approach to ensure it's future and  this means bringing the CC business model into a 21st century highly streamlined professional led organisation. 

    Business practice will change in the future for the CC  as it is dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century--- Efficiency is the aim of all modern retail organisations. The CC will follow.  No doubt about it. 

     

    Cheers...................K

     

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  • mickysf
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    edited January 2017 #153

    May that kicking and screaming, although I'd call it reaffirmation and reassurance continue for a very, very long time. I'm absolutely sure it will!.

    No exclusion, no alienation of fellow members make absolute sense, leave that to the competition and their different ways of working!

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2017 #155

    once again a good reply, +1

  • moulesy
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    edited January 2017 #156

     Inclusivity is a key fundamental of the club's philosophy. It's what makes it different from the many commercials (with their "special" offers), many private sites (with their "add on" charges) and many AO sites. Nothing against any of these, they obviously appeal to huge numbers of satisfied customers. As, of course, does the club to the much larger number of customers who use their sites every year. This difference (let's call it choice) is surely to be encouraged, not belittled.

  • Kennine
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    edited January 2017 #157

    Once again the quality of your posts deserve admiration.

    Anyway we all know that the  days of a couple of hundred well meaning bumbling amateurs trying to run any huge company are numbered.

    Efficent professional managers are the way to go. In a modern 2017 trading environment.

    Cheers .............K wink

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  • mickysf
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    edited January 2017 #158

    Having met many ineffective bumbling managers and so called professionals in my time, I firmly believe that the involvement of members, who may incidentally be extremely competent profesionals or well informed individuals in a variety of fields and expertise, is an asset to our club's structure. Indeed some of the best profesionals I have worked with have been those who have listened and consulted with their customers. This structure makes the club unique in several ways and not necessarily less effective in its workings. Effective 'teams' with broad ranges of skills, interests and perspectives is healthy for an organisation, particularly those which 'serve' customers or a membership in our case. Consulting with and involving the membership in core issues and direction, as happens in the club, is what makes it attractive to many of us and does not necessarily lessen its effectiveness as an organisation.
    In a way this management structure and involvement of members as described in the 'bye laws of the club' mirrors that very inclusive nature we believe so important and thankfully one that is to be treasured and maintained.  I'm sure it will be for a very long time to come.
    The very idea of banning and exclusion certain fellow club members at club sites by trial or otherwise is a negative notion and certainly make little business sense to me nor, in my opinion, does it hold any collective appeal. 

  • IanH
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    edited January 2017 #159

    Well said above Kennine.......very valid and worthwhile comments that we will all learn from.

    I agree that it's a shame that the other CC supporters continue with their '+1' type comments (and others of no real substance or content, other than to support whatever might be said in favour of the CC) but we are all entiled to express our views......however we chose to do that.

    I have said it before and it is surely worth repeating......the CC is a business and one that struggles to compete in the area of running caravan sites, with its 'stick in the mud' attitude. Indeed, we have already seen attempts to sell off some of their top sites.

    Within the next 5 years we will see the srart of selling off the sites. You heard it here first.

     

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  • mickysf
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    edited January 2017 #160

    I'll take that patronisation as a compliment then but I'm not at all sure what central issue or mistakes you are referring too! Are these the facts I describe that do not fit with your opinions and arguements? I think they are!

    All I'm really saying is the club should not and will not bannish fellow members from sites! No more no less! This is at the heart of the OP and what is important to all members!

    Inclusivity is the key! wink

     

  • moulesy
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    edited January 2017 #161

    Good post Micky! Says it all! Smiley smiley!

  • IanH
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    edited January 2017 #162

    Duplicate

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2017 #163

    + 1

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2017 #164

    yes, a singular good post. 

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2017 #165

    There was/is the oportunity  for the vocal few who can find fault with anything cc  to put their more often than not very misguided ideas of how they think it should be run, but by the the lack of comments from any ,it seems as usual just hot air while looking at their imagecool

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2017 #166

    You make a good point there micky. You have posted a number of  coherent structured posts.

    If you disagree with them, which is easier to do? Make a similar coherent structured reply and point out in detail how and where you have made any misconceptions and inaccuracies, or where you continue to make a lot of mistakes and tend to miss the central point,

    or be patronising and just post such comments without any such detail, reasoning and counter arguments?

    Which approach has more credence? Who is posting something they believe in?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2017 #167

    +1 (as stated I my previous post)

  • RochelleCC
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    edited January 2017 #168

    Owing to the amount of reports I've received from this thread, I'll be closing this pending investigation.

  • Kennine
    Kennine Forum Participant Posts: 3,472
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    edited January 2017 #169

    Micky, I've given you a like for your post. It is well thought out and beautifully written and presented.  On a forum people, even if they disagree, can be friendly and appreciate a well presented post. Well done.

    This is just a forum, its not real life,  Nothing discussed here will affect what happens at Grimstead Towers. So it is strange how much in the way of insults and thread spoiling occurs due to those handfull of posters who do not have your intellectual ability but share your views.

    My advice to those people is to study your posting style and try to repicate your intellectual presentation. Up until then you will be the only ardent  CC supporter whose posts I will be bothered reading

    Cheers............K

  • RochelleCC
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    edited January 2017 #171

    Hi everyone,

    I’ve removed the off topic and potentially offensive posts from this thread. Please remember to stick to the community guidelines when posting.

    Thank you

  • IanH
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    edited January 2017 #172

    Well done Rochelle......there were some pretty offensive posts on there.

    There's no place for that on this friendly forum.

  • Kennine
    Kennine Forum Participant Posts: 3,472
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    edited January 2017 #173

    Indeed there was -- Totally Disgraceful !! ---- Well done Rochelle