Rv owners

DIJ Wilson
DIJ Wilson Forum Participant Posts: 34
edited December 2016 in Motorhomes #1

we have recently bought an Thourwinds citation rv and are throughly enjoying it are there any other club members who have an rv and also could give us some advice about which site take such a vehicle as we are finding too many sites don't take a unit over 8-5 meters 

 

regards

 

david wilson

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  • rayjsj
    rayjsj Forum Participant Posts: 930
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    edited December 2016 #2

    Not being nasty but shouldnt you have done a bit of research before buying your RV ?   Many sites have restrictions on unit size especially above 8.5 metres. RVs were designed for use in the USA, where space is not at

    such a premium, it just means you will have to do some checking of sites before leaving home, still do-able but not quite as carefree as in the USA. 

  • triky auto
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    edited December 2016 #3

    Hi DIJ.  SO FAR ,,,I've not had problems with my "Concord" which is just over 9m.But it does have a very good turning circle too.Sites that i've used including C.C ,would prefer to accommodate us & take the fee's .But as said ,a little up front investigation does help.Good luck & enjoy !!wink.

  • DIJ Wilson
    DIJ Wilson Forum Participant Posts: 34
    edited December 2016 #4

    Did plenty of research as want to use in uk and abroad mine also has great turning circle and is very easy to manoeuvre. My over riding complaint is I get in most if not all CL sites but have difficulty in getting into to club run sites I probably being a bit "silly"  thought it would be the other way round and having a seven root over hang from the rear wheel base I don't really see the issue of the extra length we are talking 65cms

    Regards

     

    david

  • Stewartwebr
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    edited January 2017 #5

    I don't think you will have much of a problem provided your vehicle is not one of the huge RV's. My current motorhome is a Niesmann Bischoff Flair with a length of 9.5m and I never have a problem. Most Caravan Club sites have pitches with grass at the rear to allow you to overhang. The Wardens just seem to get concerned that the self levelling rams do not go onto the grass at the rear,

    Sometimes if I know the site my van can shrink to 8.5m as I know I will fit on any of the pitches.

    A number of years ago I visited the Lochside Site in Forfar with an 8.7m Burstner Elegance, granted it looked a long vehicle. The max length for the site was 8.5m and the Warden and his wife actually measured the van. I have never know such a song and dance over 20cm. The pitch we selected and many many more had more than enough space without the need to overhang

  • Msafiri
    Msafiri Forum Participant Posts: 4
    edited January 2017 #6

    Isnt it about time that in view of the growth in ownership of "longer" style of motorhomes  that the club should look at the possibility of having at least one pitch where physically possible that can accommodate such an outfit , as at the moment it feels that there is "resistance" in the organization to out of the norm rigs, or is it just my perception ? 

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2017 #7

    Many sites were laid out when such vehicles were even less common and probably not a major consideration. 

  • Stewartwebr
    Stewartwebr Forum Participant Posts: 171
    edited January 2017 #8

    In fairness to the club I think they have already done that where physically possible. But due to it being only a couple of pitches you need to book direct with the Warden so the suitable pitch can be reserved for you. We never do this and only stay at sites that we know there won't be a problem.

    Some sites restrict size not because of the pitches but due to constraints of the access roads to reach the site.

  • jakeontour
    jakeontour Forum Participant Posts: 63
    edited January 2017 #9

    We had an A-class RV for a good few years.  (Can't beat the sound of an 8.1 litre V8 motor!) 

    Quickly found that phoning the intended club site in advance and explaining what size you are, rear overhang without jacks etc., nearly always produced a satisfactory result.

    Ok, that generally meant you had a pitch pre-allocated to you but that was never a problem.

  • MichaelT
    MichaelT Forum Participant Posts: 1,874
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    edited January 2017 #10

    Did it take any longer to get between sites after factoring in the multiple fuel stops, I bet it drank the petrol didn't it?

  • DIJ Wilson
    DIJ Wilson Forum Participant Posts: 34
    edited January 2017 #11

    We are currently at Durham grange with no problem over hang by 6 ft 

     

    as for access I use copilot with my rv dimension already saved so should avoid the small roads. 

    I think as mentioned my way forward is to speak direct to the wardens 

  • jakeontour
    jakeontour Forum Participant Posts: 63
    edited January 2017 #12

    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you intended to put a smiley face at the end of that comment.

    For your information, the actual cost per mile of fuel was essentially the same as any large diesel European motorhome.

    Why, because it came with a factory fitted ultra-clean (according to a VOSA testing station) LPG conversion.

    At 12.5mpg (over 55,000 miles) on LPG the cost per mile equated to 23 mpg on diesel.  And it had a 550 LPG mile range, plus a back-up of 400 miles on unleaded should you need it.

    Just shows that you shouldn't make assumptions.

  • Stewartwebr
    Stewartwebr Forum Participant Posts: 171
    edited January 2017 #13

    Just a word of warning; Durham Grange falls into one of the sites where you DO need to call and inform them of length in the summer months. This is due to the set up of the majority of the hard standing pitches  which sit on the circle around the central grass area. In the summer when the grass pitches are open you have no room for overhand as you would be too close to the units on the grass pitches. There are suitable pitches and they will reserve but you need to ensure they are aware.

    We have been stuck in the enclave behind the entrance carpark a few times which has 6 pitches but surrounded in very high trees. We feel it very dark and oppressive and no way of getting satellite. But always found another pitch where the overhang has been possible, but in peak periods I would always call first.

  • mbee1
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    edited January 2017 #14

    But if that were to happen you would want that pitch reserving which is against the rules (usually).  Would you expect to pay a premium for it?  If not it should be available for all regardless of the size of the unit!

  • mickysf
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    edited January 2017 #15

    I think there is a fundamental difference here. Those with nonstandard units would have that pitch allocated to meet their needs. In many cases they would get no choice whatsoever, like it or lump it comes to mind. I have no truck with this management of pitches, I also enjoy choosing from all that are available to me so that odd allocated one is justified in my opinion.

  • mbee1
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    edited January 2017 #16

    Although lots may disagree I'm strongly against management of units. First come first served regardless of the size or type of unit until pitch choice becomes available. We all pay the same membership and pitch fees so, in my opinion, if you can't fit on the pitch - tough. Yes some may see this as harsh but why should a large unit get a potentially larger pitch or a particular hardstanding because of their choice of unit?

  • mbee1
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    edited January 2017 #17

    Although lots may disagree I'm strongly against management of units. First come first served regardless of the size or type of unit until pitch choice becomes available. We all pay the same membership and pitch fees so, in my opinion, if you can't fit on the pitch - tough. Yes some may see this as harsh but why should a large unit get a potentially larger pitch or a particular hardstanding because of their choice of unit?

  • Stewartwebr
    Stewartwebr Forum Participant Posts: 171
    edited January 2017 #18

    I respect your opinion, although view it as rather harsh. Yes, we do all select the size of our vans, but do you really think it acceptable that someone could potentially drive for hours to a site to find that the only large pitch they can fit on has been taken by a small van that could fit on any pitch and the said large van has to leave as there is no place to go?

    I agree and defend first come first served allocation as that is my preference. It really gets to me when I turn up at a site and am told you have a large van so we have allocated you pitch X when in reality we could fit on a number of pitches. We like the freedom of choice but in some case there needs to be exception in my opinion. However, if we find a site where we would need to have a pitch allocated (e.g. Crystal Palace) we find a different site, but that is just us. Perhaps that is why we are now spending more and more time in Europe where we feel we are more free to travel and enjoy our past time.

  • mickysf
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    edited January 2017 #19

    I would think this would be very difficult on those rather informal sites where pitches are of different sizes and configurations. The only way would be to determine the maximum size of unit that would fit on every single pitch on site. In reality that may elimate many of us completely from using the site even though we would fit on probably a good number of the pitches. Best thing to do is what currently happens, manage the situation. If that means for the largest units they have no choice (allocated) on arrival at least, even if they are last to arrive, they will have a pitch to fit!

  • mickysf
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    edited January 2017 #20

    .? Double post!

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2017 #21

    Srewart, you really can't have it both ways. You don't want to turn up and find small vans on big pitches and nothing big enough left for you but, on the other hand, you object if the warden's taken the trouble to reserve a big pitch for you. 

    Perhaps it's as well you tend to go elsewhere to avoid your problem.

  • cyberyacht
    cyberyacht Forum Participant Posts: 10,218
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    edited January 2017 #22

    American RVs? Bit like GI's in the war. Over-powered, oversize and over 'ere. wink

  • Stewartwebr
    Stewartwebr Forum Participant Posts: 171
    edited January 2017 #23

    Perhaps I was a little unclear in my post. The first paragraph was intended as a very general comment concerning large van users per se and the second paragraph was around our personal preference.

    If a site needs to be informed of our arrival and a pitch booked specifically for us we personally do not use that site and book sites which we know we shall have freedom of choice.

    However, some other members who do not share the same opinion may need a pitch booked and to say its first come first served is still in my opinion a harsh approach. We are all members of the club and pay the same membership and fees as the OP has said, but we all need to accept our needs are all different depending on unit type and personal preference. I do not want to start a discussion around prices as I think it is very fair as it is. I very rarely use water when on site unlike caravan members who are continually filling containers. I arrive with my tank full and very rarely fill it, but have no issue paying the same as everyone else. Some people do not use the facilities but pay the same.

    As for Europe IMHO the UK could learn a great deal from the way they work and treat the camping community

  • DIJ Wilson
    DIJ Wilson Forum Participant Posts: 34
    edited January 2017 #24

    It is as always a choice we make when deciding on what sort of rig we would like to camp in wether it be a caravan tent or motorhomes. What we would like though is an opportunity to visit the majority of sites . But then again we would all like to have our cake and eat it!!!

     

  • Arthur001h
    Arthur001h Forum Participant Posts: 1
    edited February 2017 #25

    If you are finding difficulty in gaining access to CC sites, you will find many sites available through RVOC, or indeed C&CC.

    With the CC It may depend on the availability of a suitable pitch but unfortunately the staff at particular site may have changed and will no longer permit your visit.

    Sites visited in the past sometimes become unavailable when the Warden changes.

    Yes we own a large American RV & we always phone before arrival, if the answer is "No" then we spend our site money elsewhere - see above.

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion of what they like, if we were all the same there would only be one type of product & no choice.

    We have had some great times with people on sites, surely this past time is about friendship & not about what sort of place you are sleeping in.

    Regards

     

    Arthur