Weights and the law

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  • mickysf
    mickysf Forum Participant Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭
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    edited January 2017 #32

    The answer to this is in the final paragraph of the original post found at the top of each page of this thread.

    The poster asked would  'they, for any reason, actually weigh us'! He also asks for any input!

    All I was suggesting, licence categories aside, was that we do need to be mindful of that addition weight we add to what is stated on 'paper'. I was weighed, at the roadside. The officer in question was at pains to tell me that the actual weight was crucial. He also told me prior to weighing what the consequences were if the weight restrictions were exceeded. This ranged from temporary 'confiscation' of items in order to reduce weight, or even the impounding of my vehicle. He did check the plated weights of the vehicle, my ability to drive the category of vehicle and actual weight of the vehicle. This was happening to cars with caravans and motorhomes. Also, with penalty points at stake for infringements, to some this could incur a driving ban!

     

  • madhouse4
    madhouse4 Forum Participant Posts: 129
    edited January 2017 #33

    Isn't one of the biggest worries people are considering driving a combination they haven't a licence for? What happens if you have a accident and your insurance don't pay out? If you want to drive bigger vehicles/combinations do it legally and take a test, don't put other road users at risk

  • MHG
    MHG Forum Participant Posts: 53
    edited March 2017 #34

    Hi there, Im in the same boat as you - i have a 3500kg limit combined car & caravan. If your cars documented gross weight figure PLUS your caravans MTPLM figure exceed 3500kg when added together - then you are towing illegally - irrespective of what your car can actually tow. As mentioned above any checks will mostly likely be done against the manufacturers documented weights of car and caravan and then cross-referenced against your license entitlement.

  • KENNYG
    KENNYG Forum Participant Posts: 215
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    edited March 2017 #35

     If you passed your test before January 1997 you can tow a combine weight of upto 8,250 Kg mam.

  • dmiller555
    dmiller555 Forum Participant Posts: 717
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    edited March 2017 #36

    Unless you are over 70 and didn't take a medical.

  • Extugger
    Extugger Forum Participant Posts: 1,293
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    edited March 2017 #37

    I found the Clubs' advice invaluable when choosing car/caravan. It's listed under Advice and Training and as others have said, will give you an idea of good matches etc. The outfit matching service is free.

    Whatever car you choose to tow with, you may want to think about the Clubs' training courses also. My wife attended one and I'm now reaping the benefits!

    Whatever you choose, my advice would be to stay well within the law, because if you do, you'll stay safe :)

  • richardandros
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    edited March 2017 #38

    Surely that's incorrect.  If you took your test before Jan 97 and have a B+E entitlement, you retain that right after 70 regardless of a medical.  The medical only applies if you want to retain the C entitlement?

  • ocsid
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    edited March 2017 #39

    No, you get a "new" licence than comes with B+E, so can drive a vehicle up to 3500 kgs towing what it can up to 3500 kgs, so then a limit of 7tonnes.

    Prior to 70 you could drive up to 7.5 tonnes and tow a 750 trailer as well.

    7500 + 750 = 8250 kgs

  • richardandros
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    edited March 2017 #40

    ocsid - I think we're getting at cross purposes - what you say corresponds with my understanding but isn't the same as what dmiller said - unless I'm being totally stupid!

  • crusader
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    edited March 2017 #41

    If you have a B+E licence you may tow a trailer upto 3500kg. Your tow car will have a maximum towing limit take that away from the gross vehicle weight and that will give you the maximum weight of the trailer that you can tow, the train weight which is the legal bit is the combined permissible tow  weight for the car and the weight of the caravan = the train weight this should not be greater than the weights allowed.

    The new hand book has this explained in the technical or towing section

     

     

     

     

  • crusader
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    edited March 2017 #42

    At the age of 70 your B+E does not entitle you to drive a 7.5 ton vehicle only upto 3.5ton unless you have a medical and new catorgory added. I had to renew my LGV C+E

  • Lyke Wake Man
    Lyke Wake Man Forum Participant Posts: 238
    edited April 2017 #43

    We have some luggage scales that people use for flying, where we weigh everything before putting it in the van