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I thought the TDF was a bike race. Froome abandoned his bike and sprinted towards the finish. Must have thought it was a triathlon.
Not in keeping with the spirit of Le Tour - A bit disappointing.
K
Disappointing? Not sure what you mean K, do you mean Froome's action or the spectators' actions or the race organisers' actions was not in the spirit?
Hardly a sprint by Froome, not that far a distance and no time actually gained, more damage limitation and pruning of time actually lost due to no fault of his own!
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Can anyone explain how, when a stage in which Quintana (and many others) finished well ahead of Froome, but then the stage was neutralised, Froome ended up gaining 26 seconds on Quintana?
Some riders were neutralised more than others, it seems......
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In my opinion the race officials made entirely the correct decision. They were totally at fault for not erecting barriers so close to the finish. They must have known shortening the stage would concentrate spectators. This begs the question where did the
barriers go. I doubt they were even put out at the summit due to the high winds. Even if they were, they could have been moved once they decided on the new finish. If the race officials had allowed the original result to stand we may well not have had a race
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Can anyone explain how, when a stage in which Quintana (and many others) finished well ahead of Froome, but then the stage was neutralised, Froome ended up gaining 26 seconds on Quintana?
Some riders were neutralised more than others, it seems......
As far as I understand it Ian the race was not neutralised. Frome and Porte were given the same time as Mollema, who although brought down in the same incident, did not have bike damage and was able to continue with only a minimal delay. So if the incident had not happened it is almost certain that Quintanas deficit would have been larger. So in effect he still benifited from the incident, despite the organisers decision.
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Can anyone explain how, when a stage in which Quintana (and many others) finished well ahead of Froome, but then the stage was neutralised, Froome ended up gaining 26 seconds on Quintana?
Some riders were neutralised more than others, it seems......
Ian, for someone who purports to know how cycling works, you appear to be rather selective on what you choose to understand.
Steve, sums it up above. Having made the honourable descision, had Froome's bike not been damaged by the following motorbike both he and Porte would have probably crossed crossed the line with Mollema. Granting him and Porte the same time was honourable
in the circumstances. The pundits seem to believe, if anything Quintana gained 15-20 seconds. He could not live with that trio, the gap would probably have been bigger.The ACO have protected the race.
Bring it on
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I suppose they could have neutralised the stage completely, with the GC reflecting the times following the previous stage. Froome, Porte and Mollema's efforts would have been lost, as would Quintana and Yates advantage gained by circumstance. The commissaires
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A second stage win for Tom Dumoulin. It was a perfect type of course for him, it appeared. He's certainly one who could develop into a future Tour GC contender. Froome put a fair amount of time into all his GC rivals with Bauke Mollema also gaining
times, to move up to 2nd. Adam Yates had a good day too although he did drop down 1 place in the overall standings.0 -
Can anyone explain how, when a stage in which Quintana (and many others) finished well ahead of Froome, but then the stage was neutralised, Froome ended up gaining 26 seconds on Quintana?
Some riders were neutralised more than others, it seems......
As far as I understand it Ian the race was not neutralised. Frome and Porte were given the same time as Mollema, who although brought down in the same incident, did not have bike damage and was able to continue with only a minimal delay. So if the incident
had not happened it is almost certain that Quintanas deficit would have been larger. So in effect he still benifited from the incident, despite the organisers decision.But the incident did happen......as incidents often happen.
And Quintana gained time as a result of the incident. Bad luck for Froome, but that is life.
But having another triple Tour winner is good publicity for the Tour.....so the organisers try to pretend that nothing happened and remove any disadvantage caused to Froome by the unfortunate incident. Very poor and does the credibility and history of the
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What, no word of how well Froome rode today, Ian....surprise, surprise!!
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So Froome emphatically stamps his authority on the GC.
Puts enough time into his rivals to render yesterday's adjustments by the commissaries academic.
Mollema and Demoulin outstanding, Yates solid. Porte disappointing.
Unless Froome has a really bad day in the Alps, looks like the race is for third between Yates and Quintana. Who would have thought it?
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There's a rumour going round that Quintana is not feeling too well, phyisically, today. We'll find out more tomorrow I guess.
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Another great win by Cav. Stuck to Kittel during the lead out and then stuck it to him.
The next chance for a sprinter to win a stage in on Monday at Berne. As it's Nelson Mandela Day there's every chance that he'll be trying as hard as ever to win that stage.
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Stuck it to him by wobbling into him, I'm afraid. Good job he's popular with the race organisers!
Similarly Froome......who suddenly needed to stop for a pee yesterday (and required the peloton to honour the yellow jersey and not attack).......remarkable that it happened while a couple of his team were on the floor.
Anyway, back to the lumpy stuff tomorrow......far better than these boring flat stages.
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Stuck it to him by wobbling into him, I'm afraid. Good job he's popular with the race organisers!
Similarly Froome......who suddenly needed to stop for a pee yesterday (and required the peloton to honour the yellow jersey and not attack).......remarkable that it happened while a couple of his team were on the floor.
Anyway, back to the lumpy stuff tomorrow......far better than these boring flat stages.
Both came together, as you can see from the overhead view. Kittel had lots of room on his right but came away from the barrier towards Cav. Cav was half a bike length up by then anyway.
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Bump, appropriately,
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Stuck it to him by wobbling into him, I'm afraid. Good job he's popular with the race organisers!
Similarly Froome......who suddenly needed to stop for a pee yesterday (and required the peloton to honour the yellow jersey and not attack).......remarkable that it happened while a couple of his team were on the floor.
Anyway, back to the lumpy stuff tomorrow......far better than these boring flat stages.
And of course that's not ever happened before when the Yellow Jersey was being worn by some one other than Froome, has it?
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Stuck it to him by wobbling into him, I'm afraid. Good job he's popular with the race organisers!
Similarly Froome......who suddenly needed to stop for a pee yesterday (and required the peloton to honour the yellow jersey and not attack).......remarkable that it happened while a couple of his team were on the floor.
Anyway, back to the lumpy stuff tomorrow......far better than these boring flat stages.
Both came together, as you can see from the overhead view. Kittel had lots of room on his right but came away from the barrier towards Cav. Cav was half a bike length up by then anyway.
Kittel kept his racing line, Cav moved (wobbled) across and into him......it was very clear from the overhead camera.
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Stuck it to him by wobbling into him, I'm afraid. Good job he's popular with the race organisers!
Similarly Froome......who suddenly needed to stop for a pee yesterday (and required the peloton to honour the yellow jersey and not attack).......remarkable that it happened while a couple of his team were on the floor.
Anyway, back to the lumpy stuff tomorrow......far better than these boring flat stages.
And of course that's not ever happened before when the Yellow Jersey was being worn by some one other than Froome, has it?
Can you provide examples, Nellie?
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Funny how people see things differently. The race judges obviously thought that Cav was not taking Kittel's line. Cav was just going faster than Kittel.
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Can you provide examples, Nellie?
erm, i seem to recall Fabian Cancellara seamingly stopping the race every time a Schleck sneezed, or whatever? Or was I imagining it.
Wow, Cav is on fire, and of course Kittel waves his arms about when beaten, what's new.
Only another few wins to "top" Merckx...
Get ready to rip up those history books.
Sorry Ian, couldn't resist
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Can you provide examples, Nellie?
erm, i seem to recall Fabian Cancellara seamingly stopping the race every time a Schleck sneezed, or whatever? Or was I imagining it.
Wow, Cav is on fire, and of course Kittel waves his arms about when beaten, what's new.
Only another few wins to "top" Merckx...
Get ready to rip up those history books.
Sorry Ian, couldn't resist
Thanks Runrig for that example. I'm sure there will be many others that have not shown on the TV. Coverage was much poorer in the past.
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Won't have any internet access for the next 5 days at least so won't be able to comment on the race after tonight.
Hope we have no more contravertial issues over the rest of the event.
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Stuck it to him by wobbling into him, I'm afraid. Good job he's popular with the race organisers!
Similarly Froome......who suddenly needed to stop for a pee yesterday (and required the peloton to honour the yellow jersey and not attack).......remarkable that it happened while a couple of his team were on the floor.
Anyway, back to the lumpy stuff tomorrow......far better than these boring flat stages.
Both came together, as you can see from the overhead view. Kittel had lots of room on his right but came away from the barrier towards Cav. Cav was half a bike length up by then anyway.
Kittel kept his racing line, Cav moved (wobbled) across and into him......it was very clear from the overhead camera.
Ian if you are going to invoke Grand Prix type reasoning, it is clear from the over head that his back wheel was in front of Kittels front, so the line was his to take. To use yet another sport as analogy, I am afraid Kittel took a football like dive by
wobbling, to try and influence the ref.0
