Depreciation
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We had a look at one before we brought our lunar but never liked the big front windows but now lunar gone that way too
Write your comments here...Yes but with bigger windows, you get the advantage of more light during the day. This is of particular advantage on a dull day, especially in the winter!
I find ample through the roof light. I was considering changing my existing Lunar ES for another. I shall have a look around first now and if it is still to be the Lunar it will wait at least another year
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Being relatively new to caravaning I cannot substantiate with a long list of caravan sales, but feel the overall depreciation on a caravan is much less than that of a car. We bought a 9 year old Stirling for 30% of its original new price whereas my 3 year old car, bought new sold for 50%.
But when you build in the fun factor caravanning is much better value than any car.
We bought the previous car and caravan at roughly the same time paying near enough £17,000 for both. We kept the car five years and got £4,500 for it and the caravan six and got £9,500 for that so it is clear which did the best on depreciation.
Years ago we actually traded in our Trophy after five years and got £50 more for it than we paid originally but that was a bit of a freak. The caravan was sold by the dealer within a week so they did alright as well.
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We got as far as we are concerned, a fair deal ,when buying our latest c/van in April and as it has a long warranty,we think it will be our last? ,as we will be well in our 80s,
The best deals we have ever got was when we changed trom a 8yr old TA Swift to an new Autocruise M/van and they gave us £9000 px plus threw in a towbar and airide on the M/van,
And again after 7yrs with the M/van on returning to tugging,we got the C/van and a £10000 cheque
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I am another who does not like the current fad of a large front window in the roof. It loses locker space but worse still causes more reflections on tvs and can get uncomfortably hot. They might look nice on the display forecourt however often if you look at caravans in use many have the blind drawn. I hope that they are another feature which will pass into oblivion although some will take a different view.
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The value given as a trade in is really no indication of the value of a used vehicle or caravan. This is because the discount given comes out of the price of the new item.
As to those daft (but expensive) centre windows, surely they are designed so the cook/dishwasher/dryer staff can look outside without having to stoop and interupt the progress of their work.
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When it gets too hot we just use the blind.
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Not bothered about the lockers, as there seems ample without those where the front window is. However, in almost 3 years I don't think the top section of the blind has been open more than once in our Unicorn. There are plenty of other Windows to give adequate
light, even on a dull day. I suppose if we ever took it to the Alps and we were pitched with a view of some peaks it might have a use, but personally I could do without it.0 -
Not sure about the high windows looking good on the forecourt. Combined with the front panel I cannot even see how the Bailey front ever got out of the factory. The Swift version does look good to me and the others are not too bad though.
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I like the big front window because it brightens up the lounge area. However, it doesn't open as wide as the other windows and when you do open it, you have to close the top blind when using the fly screen.
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Not bothered about the lockers, as there seems ample without those where the front window is. However, in almost 3 years I don't think the top section of the blind has been open more than once in our Unicorn. There are plenty of other Windows to give adequate
light, even on a dull day. I suppose if we ever took it to the Alps and we were pitched with a view of some peaks it might have a use, but personally I could do without it.Just shows we are all different. We hardly ever close the top section of our blind. As it is so high up we even leave it open at night.
David
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Going back to the subject of Depreciation!
As health is not so good these days we are seriously thinking of giving up. Our van a Coachman Pastiche 565 is two years old (2014) and is spotless, Serviced last week to keep warranty running and given the latest Ceramic paint seal only last month at a cost of nearly £500! Has Powrtouch motor mover. But my own dealer who I have been with for years & years says that the trade price is £13,500 and he will give me £14,500 in recognition of my business over the years. But even then will have lost £7K in 2 years Ouch!
Can try a Seasonal pitch, but somehow the fun has gone out of it.. Selling up begins to look a strong possibility.
I know that I can advertise & sell privately & probably get a lot more, - but the hassle, and the con artists? Maybe better to take the hit?
TF
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Can try a Seasonal pitch, but somehow the fun has gone out of it.. Selling up begins to look a strong possibility.
I know that I can advertise & sell privately & probably get a lot more, - but the hassle, and the con artists? Maybe better to take the hit?
TF
I suspect TF that you, as I, would consider the loss in moetary terms as irrelevant compared to the loss of life style/ammenity.
I have considered the effects for myself for health reasons. Last year I had walking difficulties. This year much better.
Last December we arrived at the Club site at Southport. We piched up and I walked back to reception to report our location. A distance of almost 200m and I had to stop twice and rest. In the summer of last year I was having to stop every 100m. This year
I can stroll 3 miles on the level. I suffer with my spine as well and if I wash up have to take a rest but if not using my arms too much I am fine.
However the site in my 'good'eye is slowly deteriorating. My bad eye has no central and lower vision. OH can drive but would not drive the tow car or tow and hates motorways.I know I could get a neighbour to tow me out say 60 miles. Probably could talk my eldest daughter into towing but I am used to moving on site to site every 5 days. Time was one could get onto a site 10.30 and in those days would often move every 3 days.
Would I consider a one site break or a seasonal? I might.0 -
EasyT. That sounds very similar to my situation, although my eyesight is fine. My real problem comes with setting up & breaking down, although it is also hard to see others doing what I can no longer do. The concept of Coach tours and cruises starts to
loom!TF
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EasyT. That sounds very similar to my situation, although my eyesight is fine. My real problem comes with setting up & breaking down, although it is also hard to see others doing what I can no longer do. The concept of Coach tours and
cruises starts to loom!TF
as age creeps up, vanners seem to travel in one of two directions...
..from a MH to a caravan so as to have a car with them for easier getting about....
..from a caravan to a small (go anywhere) MH as they have difficulties with all the extra manual tasks involved with caravanning....water, awnings, towing etc, etc....
TF, you might be more towards the second of my examples and it may be that a small, manoevrable MH might be so much easier to set up and to drive away.....you know ....handbrake on, ignition off, kettle on......
i think Tinwheeler has mentioned that his 6.4m MH has made their life a bit easier in this department....
(apologies TW if this is not the case....)
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As many of you will remember, we have been considering a MH for a while now.
Originally it was OH's idea and I was was not that keen.
We have now looked at a lot of MHs and not yet seen exactly what we want.
However this weekend we saw a few Carthagos, and I was really impressed, so now I am keener than OH!
Only problem is price!!
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ours is the wrong layout for you, Kjell but.......
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When we find it too hard in caravan ill go back to a small motorhome eg hymer 544
and perhaps coach tours and any other form of holiday when we sold our last motorhome (due to personal responsibilities) we took a major loss cos we sold it back to dealer
but we made our mind up and it was gone next day,but missed it so got old caravan .... Good luck with your decision i know its hard regards mrs bc :0 -
ours is the wrong layout for you, Kjell but.......
Saw one like yours BB, with "transporter shower", but OH has rejected the shower on size grounds. The beds were OK though, if a little "antisocial" !
The place we were at was waiting for delivery of the 2017 models, so we did not see any Dethleffs models.
Seemed like a reasonable dealership, so a possibility, and very convenient, only 45 minutes drive.
Now thinking we will go to the Scottish show in February, only a few miles from us.
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My OH has the same view of towing and motorways as ET's partner. Having had my licence revoked by DVLA a couple of weeks ago, the van is sitting on the driveway doing nothing. I have challenged their decision but am not optimistic. I've explored the possibility
of a seasonal within a reasonable radius of home but it doesn't make economic sense so it looks like I might be giving up as well. As my van is older than most of yours, the depreciation hit won't be quite as bad.0 -
CY very sorry to hear about your loss of licence. Knowing others (professionally and socially) who have suffered revocation I know what a shock it is after a lifetime of complete mobility. DVLA are ponderous and if there is a case for reversal then you need
to bring the correct resources (medical legal or whatever) to bear and don't give up. There are time limits for appeals.0 -
With the fall in the value of the pound, prices of new Continental and UK made vans are going to rise. This can only effect the second hand market as well so maybe the van you have is not going to depreciate as much as you think?
Anyone close to buying had best not delay if the want to beat the price rises or is it too late?.
peedee
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ours is the wrong layout for you, Kjell but.......
Saw one like yours BB, with "transporter shower", but OH has rejected the shower on size grounds. The beds were OK though, if a little "antisocial" !
The place we were at was waiting for delivery of the 2017 models, so we did not see any Dethleffs models.
Seemed like a reasonable dealership, so a possibility, and very convenient, only 45 minutes drive.
Now thinking we will go to the Scottish show in February, only a few miles from us.
the beds can be in three configs....
sleep longways in 2 large singles with a 3' 6" infill (effectively, part double)
sleep transversly, using infill for a large double
add second infill to fill remaining 3' of 'gap' and sleep either long ways, accross (or diagonal...) on 2m x 2m double.
invite several friends, hardly antisocial
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