Charging for awnings
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On hardstandings it is just profiteering but on grass I can see they may want to cover the damage that might be done. Not sure many use electric to heat the awning but that would not apply in Summer.
If you want to use an awning vote with your feet and choose a site that does not charge.
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I tend to avoid sites that charge for awnings or dogs. The price charged should be for the pitch. I'm amazed that some on this thread seem to approve of charging for awnings. Turkeys voting for Christmas?
this 'turkey' doesnt have an awning, nor a car, nor a trailer, nor any dogs, and would be happy on a slightly smaller (less costly) non-awning pitch...
Happy Christmas
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Charging extra for awnings on grass all year and all pitches from autum to spring would help offset the additonal costs of maintenance and additional electricity used by heating the sky with awning heaters
Sorry for repeat but IMHO it would cover most "problems" that arise summer and winter
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On hardstandings it is just profiteering but on grass I can see they may want to cover the damage that might be done. Not sure many use electric to heat the awning but that would not apply in Summer.
If you want to use an awning vote with your feet and choose a site that does not charge.
...but if the HS has to be twice as large to accommodate the unit plus the awning (as opposed to just the unit) why shouldn't the site recoup its investment, made so that guests can 'enjoy' a fully HS pitch?
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I think that the simple fact that so many people use (pointless) heaters in awnings (and openly say on here that they don't care about the waste because they are "on holiday") means that awnings should certainly carry an additional charge.
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That's a bit illogical, Ian. By all means charge extra for awning heaters, or ban them ( doesn't Ross Park do that?) but to charge extra for awnings on that basis when many (most?) wouldn't dream of using them doesn't make sense to me.
(We don't use a heater or a groundsheet in our porch awning - is that OK with you?)
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Didn't even know such things as awning heaters existed until I came on CT.
Still never seen one (AFAIK) or see the point of one. If its cold, put a coat on or go in the 'van.
This seems more like an argument to have metered leccy than charging extra for awnings.
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....or both
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That's a bit illogical, Ian. By all means charge extra for awning heaters, or ban them ( doesn't Ross Park do that?) but to charge extra for awnings on that basis when many (most?) wouldn't dream of using them doesn't make sense to me.
(We don't use a heater or a groundsheet in our porch awning - is that OK with you?)
No, sorry Moulesy, you'll have to cough up I'm afraid......to pay for the profligacy and selfishness of your fellow awning-owning (and awning heater owning) members........
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We use our van all year and I (oh my God!!!) agree with Ian
as have noticed more and more heaters being used when temps drop
a bit, (to used to hot houses?) ,which if just a heater charge would be impossible to "police" as was proved in the past when EHU was an add charge,0 -
That's a bit illogical, Ian. By all means charge extra for awning heaters, or ban them ( doesn't Ross Park do that?) but to charge extra for awnings on that basis when many (most?) wouldn't dream of using them doesn't make sense to me.
(We don't use a heater or a groundsheet in our porch awning - is that OK with you?)
No, sorry Moulesy, you'll have to cough up I'm afraid......to pay for the profligacy and selfishness of your fellow awning-owning (and awning heater owning) members........
Just as I thought then, totally illogical!
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sorry having an awning is selfish? Why?
Someone had better tell the wardens, they usually have one
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I tend to avoid sites that charge for awnings or dogs. The price charged should be for the pitch. I'm amazed that some on this thread seem to approve of charging for awnings. Turkeys voting for Christmas?
Write your comments here...I do not see why not, a dog will drink water, maybe get hosed down, on CC sites a dog walk is normally supplied along with bins for the mess (so long as owners pick up) so its only reasonable that dog owners pay. Its not like a shower block where you have a choice if you dont have a dog you cant use it!!
Abroad most sites charge for dogs.
Write your comments here...thats one of the reasons we dont go. Some of the commercial sites here and abroad offer no facilities for Dogs whatsoever ,no dog walk, not anything and yet still charge for them ? The Club has got it right, no charges for dogs OR awnings, a satisfied Member. Who also uses a wind out canopy and goes on awning pitches, preferably with hard standing.
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I tend to avoid sites that charge for awnings or dogs. The price charged should be for the pitch. I'm amazed that some on this thread seem to approve of charging for awnings. Turkeys voting for Christmas?
Write your comments here...I do not see why not, a dog will drink water, maybe get hosed down, on CC sites a dog walk is normally supplied along with bins for the mess (so long as owners pick up) so its only reasonable that dog owners pay. Its not like
a shower block where you have a choice if you dont have a dog you cant use it!!Abroad most sites charge for dogs.
Write your comments here...thats one of the reasons we dont go. Some of the commercial sites here and abroad offer no facilities for Dogs whatsoever ,no dog walk, not anything and yet still charge for them ?
The Club has got it right, no charges for dogs OR awnings, a satisfied Member. Who also uses a wind out canopy and goes on awning pitches, preferably with hard standing.+1
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We use our van all year and I (oh my God!!!) agree with Ian
as have noticed more and more heaters being used when temps drop
a bit, (to used to hot houses?) ,which if just a heater charge would be impossible to "police" as was proved in the past when EHU was an add charge,Exactly so.
Plenty of people on here have said (boasted, even) about their awning heaters and how they will use them if they feel like it and don't care about the cost.
So, the cost should be an extra charge on them, not on everyone else, in higher pitch fees.
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as has been said many times, the charges for dogs and awnings are deterrents...
re: dogs.....to keep the numbers down....hence maximums are usually set...
if charging for dogs was a money spinner, why set a limit at one or two?
most customers without dogs dont want dogs all over the site, making a racket, and most site owners recognise this, yet also are aware that some guests wish to bring them...
the charge is a compromise to allow one/two per van but to show guests without dogs that their concerns are being addressed as well...
re: awnings, there is a cost associated with either setting up the HS infrastructure in the first place, or on the maintenance of the pitch 'post awning use'....
everyone can see what damage a week long stay with an awning does to a grass pitch....it spoils it for the next guest, perhaps thay should get a rebate, too?
...and, of course, its difficult to use an awning heater without an awning....
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I'm saddened, though not surprised really, to see the re-emergence of the "I'll pay for what I use and not a penny more" type of comments that I thought were a thing of the past. Too many folk too concerned with how others enjoy their hobby instead of getting on with life.
I apologise to anyone whose holiday has been blighted by our two dogs and our small (unheated and uncarpeted) porch awning!
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We don't set our awning in the winter so no heater required. This is another of those pathetic discussions on CT. I don't do this or have this so you shouldn't, as I say pathetic. In 2014 the CC made over £1.5million profit on the UK sites part of their
accounts So obviously not too much of a problem. If you sit in the awning with a heater and switch your heating off in the van then the environmental cost is balanced out0 -
We don't set our awning in the winter so no heater required. This is another of those pathetic discussions on CT. I don't do this or have this so you shouldn't, as I say pathetic. In 2014 the CC made over £1.5million profit on the UK sites part of their
accounts So obviously not too much of a problem. If you sit in the awning with a heater and switch your heating off in the van then the environmental cost is balanced outSpot on OP
. I've never seen such a concentration of controllers as on CT.0 -
We don't set our awning in the winter so no heater required. This is another of those pathetic discussions on CT. I don't do this or have this so you shouldn't, as I say pathetic. In 2014 the CC made over £1.5million profit on the UK sites part of their
accounts So obviously not too much of a problem. If you sit in the awning with a heater and switch your heating off in the van then the environmental cost is balanced outI have too agree.We very rarely use an awning nowadays but if i do how i use that awning is my business and mine alone.
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We don't set our awning in the winter so no heater required. This is another of those pathetic discussions on CT. I don't do this or have this so you shouldn't, as I say pathetic. In 2014 the CC made
over £1.5million profit on the UK sites part of their accounts So obviously not too much of a problem. If you sit in the awning with a heater and switch your heating off in the van then the environmental cost is balanced outYou put this figure as though it is large. At only £7500 or so per site, it would not take much to turn it into a deficit.
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theres nothing controlling about anyone wanting the damage done by awnings to be contributed towards by those who cause it, is there...?
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One and a half million may not be a lot to you Steve but it's quite a lot to me. Anyway I didn't put it as large, that's your interpretation. The figures must work for the CC or they would soon change!
The figure quoted is for just 1 of several different sections of the accounts the overall profit was, if memory serves, over 5 million.
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