Fresh water yes or no?

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  • Tammygirl
    Tammygirl Club Member Posts: 7,957 ✭✭✭
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    edited August 2016 #212

    I've noticed on a fair few CC sites that the pitches that border a road are usually the last to fill up, why not move MVSP to this area along with the information room and any sheds tht are used by the warden. The pitches could then be relocated to an area
    of the site (away from the road) that folk would like to pitch on. If this was done then  passing M/H's could pop in as they do abroad, make it token operated then members could purchase a few at a time.  M/H's using the site to stay on could be given a token
    by the warden on check in as part of the booking in process at no cost (included in fee)

  • young thomas
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    edited August 2016 #213

    TG pretty much what I was alluding too....a bit too sensible thoWink

  • Techno100
    Techno100 Forum Participant Posts: 41
    edited August 2016 #214

    What was this thread about ??Wink

    It was about someone outrageously expecting to get a bit of service from a club site, and what has followed has been 20+pages of reasons why he shouldnt  get it:

    It seems to boil down to:

    "if you have not got a booking why expect any service" or "why are you so incompetant as to run out of water" and then there is the "it would never work or cost too much" school and finally "pity the poor old wardens who would need to police it"

    :As a disinterested observer i.e dont have a motorhome or use club sites (hardly anyway) I have only skimmed this tread but many of the posts seem  distinctly mean spirited towards fellow members and totaly lacking in ambition to
    move with the times

    What he said 

  • Techno100
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    edited August 2016 #215

    I'm thinking the OP has had a ball with this thread. Thrown in a relatively hypothetical scenario, then sit back and watch and read all the huffing and puffing that it was bound to attract. I am quite sure that if someone rolled up late and there was no room, then a member would get as much help as possible, without compromising the site security and causing a problem. But the whole scenario in reality must be relatively rare. What experienced MH, touring either here or abroad is so naive as to  not be aware of water and waste management? Certainly not at Beechwood Grange either, a favourite haunt of the OP? 

    Not at all and if you had read the whole thread you would know that.

    The question was spawned from a real life experience of a previous member whom I personally know.

     

    Your "I'm quite sure" bit is just the point in question and no they where refused 

     

  • EmilysDad
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    edited August 2016 #216

     ....

    It seems to boil down to:

    "if you have not got a booking why expect any service" or "why are you so incompetant as to run out of water" and then there is the "it would never work or cost too much" school and finally "pity the poor old wardens who would need to police it" ....

    You missed out .... I like things as they are and don't like change ..... in my day ..... Innocent

  • Techno100
    Techno100 Forum Participant Posts: 41
    edited August 2016 #217

    This was the post made on another forum in a thread about the CC 

    "Well I have to say you are fortunate, like you we have been paid up members of CCC & CC, I can't say I'm known for having a negative attitude, but two years ago we were travelling Scotland pulled up at quite a remote CC site and asked if there was any
    room, we were told no there was not, no problem we said politely , we are CC. Members and have been for many years I wonder if we could top up a couple of containers of water, as we are in a remote part of Scotland and not sure where we would camp. No they
    said sorry you can't have any water, we are willing to pay for it, again no sorry we can't let you have water. With this kind of attitude to members sorry I won't be singing there praises any time soon, just a different opinion of course."

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2016 #218

    I'd like to read the rest of the discussion, Techno. Can you post a link, please?

  • Techno100
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    edited August 2016 #219

    I'd like to read the rest of the discussion, Techno. Can you post a link, please?

    Understand the thread is not about water but about sites in general

  • Techno100
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    edited August 2016 #220
  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2016 #221

     Cheers. I've made it live.

    Somebody posted it the other day for a different reason

     http://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/caravan-club-sites.135467/

  • moulesy
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    edited August 2016 #222

    Well said, Jay.

    I detect traces of the old BB there.Wink

    now, whats got your goat today, Tinny....Undecided 

    no need to get personal and slip back into your Moderator mode...

    seems Jay and I cant even have a little banter without you moderating....

    it must be catching as your old mate M was doing a bit on the Cirencester thread...

    i let that pass in that thread (form the sake of the anniverary couple....) but you guys really need to stop vetting others' posts.

    Hang on BB - what's the point of that comment about the Cirencester post? Did I say anything moderator like? Did I suggest you weren't entitled to write what you did? 

    No, I merely suggested that it might have been tactful to leave your thoughts there unspoken. After all, you'd made no other comment on the thread up to that point so why leave it till a couple of days before the OP was going to make what was an entirely
    negative comment.

    Didn't have you down as so sensitive that you wouldn't understand the thinking behind my post! With hindsight, would you still have posted the same comment?

  • Techno100
    Techno100 Forum Participant Posts: 41
    edited August 2016 #223

     Cheers. I've made it live.

    Somebody posted it the other day for a different reason

     http://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/caravan-club-sites.135467/

    How is that done? am I missing something or is it special priviledge?

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2016 #224

     Cheers. I've made it live.

    Somebody posted it the other day for a different reason

     http://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/caravan-club-sites.135467/

    How is that done? am I missing something or is it special priviledge?

    If anyone wants to read it, it's on page 4. It was posted around the same time as this thread was started although it happened two years ago. CC are reported as saying that only on site paying visitors can use water.

    The link - once posted into the dialogue box highlight and copy again. Tap the closed link and a box will open. Paste it into the top line and click/tap Insert. No special powers needed other than the ability to come to terms with the vagaries of CT.

    PS. I was expecting to read Fun as the name of the forum suggests but there are as many moaners on there as here. The same ones in some cases.Sad

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2016 #226
  • huskydog
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    edited August 2016 #227

    "PS. I was expecting to read Fun as the name of the forum suggests but there are as many moaners on there as here. The same ones in some cases"

    But at least you dont get someone removing posts, because someone doesen't agree with you SealedCool

    And the PM facility is very usefull Smile

  • Techno100
    Techno100 Forum Participant Posts: 41
    edited August 2016 #228

    Life can be so easy 

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2016 #229

    Some forums rarely feel the need to remove posts and PM and email facilities are indeed very useful.

  • Techno100
    Techno100 Forum Participant Posts: 41
    edited August 2016 #230

    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/vagary

    Your point is?

    To demostrate what a good teacher you are and to find out what Vagaries woz lol

    Moderator comment: Post edited slightly

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2016 #231

    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/vagary

    Your point is?

    To demostrate what a good teacher you are and to find out WTF Vagaries woz lol

     I prefer the Collins definition

     http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/vagary

    unexpected, unpredictable and something you have no control over.

    I feel we will shortly have our knuckles rapped for wandering off topic.

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  • JVB66
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    edited August 2016 #233

     Cheers. I've made it live.

    Somebody posted it the other day for a different reason

     http://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/caravan-club-sites.135467/

    How is that done? am I missing something or is it special priviledge?

    If anyone wants to read it, it's on page 4. It was posted around the same time as this thread was started although it happened two years ago. CC are reported as saying that only on site paying visitors can use water.

    The link - once posted into the dialogue box highlight and copy again. Tap the closed link and a box will open. Paste it into the top line and click/tap Insert. No special powers needed other than the ability to come to terms with the vagaries of CT.

    PS. I was expecting to read Fun as the name of the forum suggests but there are as many moaners on there as here. The same ones in some cases.Sad

    My impression of the difference between CT and the Fun is that the Fun moderation is minimal and moaning is done in a light-hearted, irreverent, and out spoken manner with a lot of leg pulling and banter which if done on CT would get you band.  

    ..Is that the cc concert oneWink

  • IanH
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    edited August 2016 #234

    For what it's worth, can I summarise how I would deal with the op's question if I were a warden:

    Some sites have a problem with a certain group of caravan users who tend not to pay for pitching, but would like to use the facilities.

    If I was approached by someone looking for pitch and I didn't have one spare - based on me having walked the site many times that day, not just on whatever the computer said - I would assess whether they fell into the above group (not difficult, especially if they were hoping to pay for a pitch) and if they weren't, I would let them empty their waste and fill their water (probably escorting them) and suggest a contribution to the flower fund / RNLI / local charity etc.

    Then I would wish them luck in finding a site (after looking for availability on other local CC sites) and telling them when I would have availability, if they'd like to come back.

    Job done.

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  • cyberyacht
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    edited August 2016 #236

    This thread is starting to look distinctly "Simon & Garfunkel".

  • Techno100
    Techno100 Forum Participant Posts: 41
    edited August 2016 #237

    Some nice replies coming but unfortunately not CC policy as I have discovered.

  • Techno100
    Techno100 Forum Participant Posts: 41
    edited August 2016 #238

    I do know some wardens who would look after a member in this situaton but most will tow the party line

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2016 #239

    For what it's worth, can I summarise how I would deal with the op's question if I were a warden:

    Some sites have a problem with a certain group of caravan users who tend not to pay for pitching, but would like to use the facilities.

    If I was approached by someone looking for pitch and I didn't have one spare - based on me having walked the site many times that day, not just on whatever the computer said - I would assess whether they fell into the above group (not difficult, especially
    if they were hoping to pay for a pitch) and if they weren't, I would let them empty their waste and fill their water (probably escorting them) and suggest a contribution to the flower fund / RNLI / local charity etc.

    Then I would wish them luck in finding a site (after looking for availability on other local CC sites) and telling them when I would have availability, if they'd like to come back.

    Job done.

    ..Would you like to volunteer on a site and see what its really like trying to "placate" the.modern "holiday" personWink

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited August 2016 #240

    I'm thinking the OP has had a ball with this thread. Thrown in a relatively hypothetical scenario, then sit back and watch and read all the huffing and puffing that it was bound to attract. I am quite sure that if someone rolled up late and there was no
    room, then a member would get as much help as possible, without compromising the site security and causing a problem. But the whole scenario in reality must be relatively rare. What experienced MH, touring either here or abroad is so naive as to  not be aware
    of water and waste management? Certainly not at Beechwood Grange either, a favourite haunt of the OP? 

    Not at all and if you had read the whole thread you would know that.

    The question was spawned from a real life experience of a previous member whom I personally know.

     

    Your "I'm quite sure" bit is just the point in question and no they where refused 

     

    It's "were" by the way, not where. Bad experience for your acquaintances then sadly. Not been our experiences when we have called into a site but not stayed, eg, buy a gas cylinder, call in for fish and chips when the van visits, call in and buy a cycling
    map for Clumber. All been nice positive experiences, and that's at three different sites. 

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