Fresh water yes or no?
Imagine a scenario where a club member turns up at a site while touring having not pre booked and the site is full. Is it true they will also be denied access to water before they move on.
Will they be denied access to the elsan as members also?
Comments
-
Wardens discretion, I guess.
I doubt us ordinary members know for sure.
0 -
I don't think so but you'd need to ask CC about it for a definitive answer.
One school of thought says they're members so why not whilst another says they've not paid site fees so shouldn't have access to facilities.
0 -
Am I right in thinking you might be in a motorhome? I suppose my first question be is why would you turn up at a site without at least first phoning a head? The Club, unlike the C&CC, don't seem to have an on demand service for use of service points so my
guess would be no? As TW suggests you would really have to ask the Club.David
0 -
Hopefully if in a motorhome and not using the site you would be denied access. As David says the CC&C do have some sites where they charge a fee to members for (from memory) a few hours access to toilets, showers, laundry water and waste etc.
0 -
Am I right in thinking you might be in a motorhome? I suppose my first question be is why would you turn up at a site without at least first phoning a head? The Club, unlike the C&CC, don't seem to have an on demand service for use of service points so my
guess would be no? As TW suggests you would really have to ask the Club.David
Write your comments here...Hi David, yes a motorhome or campervan is the most likely scenario. People who are touring as opposed to setting up camp for two weeks can often have a change of plan whether forced on them or not due to circumstance. It's a good
idea to phone ahead in an ideal world but in reality getting someone to answer the phone is a different matter. Some remote parts of the country cannot even get a phone signal.Non booked arrivals are readily accepted when there is a space available but it seems a bit barbaric to me to deny a member traveller basic facilities before moving on. I'm not suggesting this be free but part of the service with a fee.
0 -
You can use the facilities for a fee, it is commonly known as a site fee. Most of the motorhome service points necessitate travelling around the internal site roads. I would not welcome this intrusion onto the site personally particularly the increased traffic on some sites in popular wild camping areas.
The C&CC provide 3 hours access to all facilities for £7. There are 54 sites where this is available. Why not join that club?
http://www.campingandcaravanningclub.co.uk/ukcampsites/clubsites/motorhomeservicepoints/
0 -
Perhaps the location of MH service points needs reviewing to facilitate a "drop-in" service.
0 -
Perhaps the location of MH service points needs reviewing to facilitate a "drop-in" service.
I'd agree with that. But not just for that; on quite a lot of sites there is a one-way system and the MHSP located somewhere on the site. When leaving a site, we've had to drive round the site, out of it and back on again to be able to use the MHSP (not
just on CC sites, also on some C&CC sites).0 -
A motorhome doesn't specifically need the "Motor Caravan" service point. The van can be left where it is not in the way and any tap can be accessed with a watering can. Likewise it is no hardship to carry the toilet cassete to the Elsan just as you would
do if pitched up.0 -
And the emptying of your waste tank would be done how?
The story is now becoming clearer and I wish you had explained fully in the beginning, Techno.
You will either need to join C&CC to get what you want or do as the rest of us do and get yourself organised so that such an event doesn't occur.
0 -
This seems to be pointing to a service the C&CC have better addressed than the CC has.
I don't see it something that is included in the membership subscription fee but funded by the site fee, so not a "free service" but one that should be offered at a cost covering fee.
Probably though its need is minimal as these facilities surely can be found when they find their overnight stop over site.
0 -
Am I right in thinking you might be in a motorhome? I suppose my first question be is why would you turn up at a site without at least first phoning a head? The Club, unlike the C&CC, don't seem to have an on demand service for use of service points so my
guess would be no? As TW suggests you would really have to ask the Club.David
...i dont think there is any rule that states a member looking for a pitch (which was what the OP suggested) should 'book' in advance, nor necessarily phone ahead....a member can still turn up and get on site of space permits, surely?
the OP then asked the question regarding topping up prior to moving on, should there be no vacancy.
ok, ill grant you, things are such with the CC that 'not booking' is seen as a breach of process and extreme folly, but this is surely at the whim of the traveller, and yes a phone call ahead might well have answered his question....
...but that answer is not 'why havent you booked' but have a chat with the warden.
my own view is that all members should be able to pull in and service their vans, for a small fee if necessary, but to deny a member this service would be petty in the extreme..
in midweek, out of season, why not just pull over at the nearest site without a booking....?
0 -
And the emptying of your waste tank would be done how?
The story is now becoming clearer and I wish you had explained fully in the beginning, Techno.
You will either need to join C&CC to get what you want or do as the rest of us do and get yourself organised so that such an event doesn't occur.
Experienced motorhomers usually have a watering can and a bucket. You take a bucket of grey waste and return with a can of water. Simple
0 -
Hopefully if in a motorhome and not using the site you would be denied access. As David says the CC&C do have some sites where they charge a fee to members for (from memory) a few hours access to toilets, showers, laundry water and waste
etc.Why such a petty response, Easy....?
while i know of no 'paid for service' as in C&CC (the CC should replicate this) why not allow a member access to empty his loo and grab a few litres of water?....a few quid in the charity box, perhaps?
perhaps the club should just set a small fee for members only?
of course, as this is such a common occurence on the continent, theres the reason for not 'doing that sort of thing' here....
0 -
And the emptying of your waste tank would be done how?
The story is now becoming clearer and I wish you had explained fully in the beginning, Techno.
You will either need to join C&CC to get what you want or do as the rest of us do and get yourself organised so that such an event doesn't occur.
I am organised lol. It has never happened to me :-)
I have however read accounts of others to whom service was denied and they have terminated all business with the club. Seems a shame
0 -
A motorhome doesn't specifically need the "Motor Caravan" service point. The van can be left where it is not in the way and any tap can be accessed with a watering can. Likewise it is no hardship to carry the toilet cassete to the Elsan just as you would
do if pitched up.....Techno, youve put yourself anove the parapet, im afraid..
despite your willingness to pay for a few ltr of water and to empty youre toilet and grey waste, this is not the done thing at the 'caravan' club, which is so far behind the times in understanding MH touring, that you are seeking something tantamount to
'heresy'....you havent 'booked'
you havent 'rung ahead'
you havent 'planned ahead'
...despite you mentioning that a change in circumstances or 'plans' might have led to your question...
yes, the posters above might have it right, youve joined the wrong club
0 -
Why not just empty it before you set off?
It is not always possible where you overnighted
Not even for an experienced motorhomer with a bucket and a watering can? I take it this is when you spend a night off site then?
As I said I have never been in this position myself but yes people do stay off site especially when touring Scotland.
0 -
I think that you have to bear in mind that a lot of caravan sites are plagued by 'certain groups' of people who don't tend to pay for pitching their caravans etc but would like to access a caravan site's facilities now and then.
CC sites tend to have fairly good security to stop people who aren't staying there from wandering onto the site at will. Trying to control people who are not staying on site and just want to use the facilities would be an extra chore for warden staff and an extra risk to those paying to use the site, in my view.
0 -
Am I right in thinking you might be in a motorhome? I suppose my first question be is why would you turn up at a site without at least first phoning a head? The Club, unlike the C&CC, don't seem to have an on demand service for use of service points so my
guess would be no? As TW suggests you would really have to ask the Club.David
...i dont think there is any rule that states a member looking for a pitch (which was what the OP suggested) should 'book' in advance, nor necessarily phone ahead....a member can still turn up and get on site of space permits, surely?
the OP then asked the question regarding topping up prior to moving on, should there be no vacancy.
ok, ill grant you, things are such with the CC that 'not booking' is seen as a breach of process and extreme folly, but this is surely at the whim of the traveller, and yes a phone call ahead might well have answered his question....
...but that answer is not 'why havent you booked' but have a chat with the warden.
my own view is that all members should be able to pull in and service their vans, for a small fee if necessary, but to deny a member this service would be petty in the extreme..
in midweek, out of season, why not just pull over at the nearest site without a booking....?
BB
I am not sure what point you are trying to make in respect to my post. No where did I suggest you can't turn up at a site without a booking. My point to the OP was that phoning ahead might actually save time and disappointment. I perfectly accept that the
OP could have difficulties with phone signals etc but that won't be the case every time.On the wider point of access to motorhome service points, or indeed other water/waste facilities on Club sites as has been mentioned these are usually situated some way from the site entrance. If motorhomes not staying on the site started to turn up in any
numbers it could cause traffic and safety issues. On some sites the motorhome facilities are near the entrance and I could see no issue with such arrangements being made for those sites.David
0 -
Ian, I agree.
Originally I thought the OP was asking a hypothetical question about an emergency situation happening beyond someone's control but it turns out to be an event occurring because someone fails to plan for all eventualities. It is asking for special treatment
for someone who has not controlled their own situation.0 -
Unless the MH service points are relocated to near the exit, I would not be in favour of it as a published paid for service. Once you do this you have little control over the number that may want to use it. It probably won't be many, but who knows. It could
mean lots of vans running round already full sites to get to the service point. There is enough vehicle movement at peak, as it is. I would be in favour of leaving it to wardens discretion, they know their site and are in the best position to decide if it
is acceptable. Most of the time, mid week out of peak, I cannot see a problem, and a donation to the charity pot could act as payment.0 -
David....because you posted this...
"I suppose my first question be is why would you turn up at a site without at least first phoning a head?"
0 -
So, the OP ask's a question and just gets grief, we seem to be members of a club that can not help it's members , Don't what ever you do leave home to tour the UK with out booking , that's the first sin ,then to ask to ask for some water from a clubsite (willing
to pay) if your not staying on that site is the second sinWhat harm can be done ????.....oh yes ,you haven't paid ,so your'e not coming on
0
