Safefill. Filling in Europe.

Mr Sambambles
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edited July 2016 in Caravan & Motorhome Chat #1

Have anyone had any problems in filling these cylinders in Europe. I like the idea of  2 portable but lightweight 10kg bottles. We use gas for home bbq etc etc. Don't really want a fixed system and must be lightweight.  I have seen some old warnings of possible
refilling problems but is this still true. Has anyone been refused a fill? Your feedback as always would be greatly appreciated. 

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  • Fysherman
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    The design of the Safefill precludes the use of an external filler.

    The advantage of a Safefill on a MH is that you can take the cylinder to be topped up before each trip without using the MH.

    Of course if you have extended trips then a single Gaslow and a Safefill would be ideal or simply a Safefill and a local country cylinder. I know people who winter in Spain with MH's who do this.

    Regarding filling overseas, I don't know. We just will not use enough gas on our trips to empty the Safefill. All I have ever done is take a Calor 6kg (now replaced by a Safefill) and an emergency Camping Gaz 907 which we have never used.

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  • Fysherman
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    Have to disagree BB.

    When we had a MH, it took such a lot of messing about getting it in and out of the driveway I would have loved a Safefill system that I could just throw in the car top up and then be sure the gas was up at 100% when we set off in the MH.

    Where we live the filling stations are not that easy to get a MH into and not really on the routes we travel. 

    I would envisage that filling up a Safeill overseas will be like it is in the UK., some garages wil not allow it and some will and I would also be keen to hear of recent experiences.

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  • Fysherman
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    We are both 2 posters that can disagree without falling out.

    Next time you are up in the Yorkshire Dales we must have a pint together.

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  • Fysherman
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    Sounds good to meHappy

    Anyway, anyone got first hand experiences of filling up a Safefill in Europe?

  • Mr Sambambles
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    edited July 2016 #10

    Thank you for your comments so far. I would like to clarify that the reason for considering the safefill bottles are 2 fold. Weight and we do use gas cylinders at home and in another van so portability would be very useful. I suppose 1 Alugas  lightweight
    and 1 Safefill could work. Anyone use a mixture to cover different circumstances?

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  • Pippah45
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    Don't forget you need a euro adaptor for Safefill or two, Spain and France are different I believe?  I can't help with filling but  think I would try it belted in the back seat,  I don't think they are on the look out for trouble?

  • JimnyBobbins
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    We have a safe fill gas bottle and filled up 3 times in France in January. At first the staff came over and said we couldn't but when I typed the writing on the bottle in my phone English to French conversion app they realised it was ok and one staff member
    even filled it for us. You do need an adaptor to fill up in France but it just screws on the bottle and the French claw system is so much easier than the uk bayonette system. We have a caravan so took the bottle in the car all 3 times. In the uk we took the
    caravan to a motorway services we were passing and filled the bottle up in situe in the locker with no issues either

  • Mr Sambambles
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    edited July 2016 #19

    Thank you for that. That's most helpful. I am certainly leaning towards the idea or a 14 kg Alugas fixed and a Safefill sitting besides. Both angles covered. Perticularly if there is not too much of an overrseas filling problem. 

     

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  • Mr Sambambles
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    Thanks for that. My locker measures 700 high and the Alugas cylinder I believe is 680 with a removable shoude so possibly 660. Its a gas locker in the garage of the motorhome. Just got to brave when cutting a 70mm hole in the side of my nice new van!!!!!!!

  • JimnyBobbins
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    I don't know how fixed kits work but you might be able to detach the alu gas and put onto safefill if you it's getting low and you pass an lpg place. There was a really good web site that listed all the lpg stations in France. I can't find it now though.
    Will keep looking

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  • Mr Sambambles
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    That's good advice and worth considering. Cheers for that. 

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  • Fysherman
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    If  I went back to a MH (and we might do) I think I would have an Alugas fitted by the chaps at Thirsk and investigate the possibillity of a two way individually isolated fitting that would allow the use of a Safefill in a 2 bottle fixed/portable set up. I am sure these guy's could devise something that would work.

    I can see the advantage of a Safefill in a MH (you don't have to take the MH out to get a top up for the trips of a few weeks away) and the advantage of a fixed system (filling up whilst on an extended tour) so why not have both? If staying long term say in Spain over winter, a local bottle could then be easily be hooked up either by leaving the Safefill at home or a longer pigtail to a 3rd external bottle.

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