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I wonder if manufacturers ever read these pages? If so ladies and gentlemen, I am convinced that there's a serious market for a two-berth with fixed double or two single beds and two proper, comfortable
seats. My old back can't cope with a whole evening on the bed-settee! Come on chaps, I'm sure it's possible?one real disadvantage with a caravan is the lack of proper supportive comfortable lounge seating.....my back wouldnt allow me to sit for any length of time on a low backed 'bench'.
all three of our MH (like pretty much all others) have wonderfully supportive swivelling, reclining cab seats with armrests that turn to allow feet up lounging in comfort that i just could not get from a low backed side seat.
so, we have what you asked for....a fixed bed (the same range offers singles, transverse or island bed options) a central kitchen and washroom, and a comfortable front lounge with panoramic windows and two Roadliner armchairs.....
however, its a MH, so may not appeal.....but the layout works and would work in a caravan, too, but due to small payloads and flimsier build, couldnt support two proper chairs in lieu of lightweight sofas....
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however, its a MH, so may not appeal.....but the layout works and would work in a caravan, too, but due to small payloads and flimsier build, couldnt support two proper chairs in lieu of lightweight sofas....
BB I carry my upholstery indoors for the winter and I can assure you there is nothing lightweight about the sofas, I dont know how much it all weighs but it must be a considerable portion of the vans weight and I can certainly tell the difference
when towing the empty van for service. None of this howver says it would be as comfortable as a MH chair....yes, i do realise that even 'lightweight' foam upholstery is heavy to carry
...but they generally dont have
the safety framework required to pass accident tests......due to the vehicle being an A-class our seats have the seatbelts built into the seats so are built on pretty substantial (heavy) subframes when compared to the lightweight wooden frame of caravan bench and are bolted through to the original chassis cab...
..so, in automotive terms, i would describe caravan seats as lightweight (comparatively speaking)...
i dont see a pair of Roadliners just being screwed to the flimsy floor of a caravan....chalk and cheese.
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BB. I think you have the wrong information on caravan seating,our Luner Delta has sprung upholstery,my guess is that most highend range caravans will have this.
I have a Clubman so I think we are talking the same upholstery
Write your comments here...You are correct,that's why as you said it is heavy.
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BB. I think you have the wrong information on caravan seating,our Luner Delta has sprung upholstery,my guess is that most highend range caravans will have this.
yes a sprung sofa will be heavier than a foam filled one....i was also talking about the difference in weight of the supporting fixtures....a lightweight wooden carcass that is not crash tested is very different arrangement than what sits underneath a swivelling
armchair that has to be self supporting as it has its own seatbelt.....so the chair itself must not move in a crash....however, my point was more to illustrate that there are designs that give a proper fixed bed yet also provide proper seating comfort and support for those that want/need it....
...but in a caravan?....not that ive seen,
so, despite sprung upholstery, its the design thats wrong with regard to support and comfort...designs that usually have to double as make-up beds, so neither fish nor fowl...
low height backrests are not conducive to good support so, unless sat sideways (against a panel?) with feet up, this would not suit me......nor geoffeales either, it would seem...
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Do caravans need the heavy safety tested seats that BB has in his and many other MH 's. A couple of comfortable high backed relax seats is surely what is needed, no need for the safety requirements as they will only be sat in once parked up.We often thought
of converting the front end of a caravan ourselves, but we moved to a motorhome 3 years ago. If we did go back to a caravan though we just might give it a go.0 -
...TG, yes it could be done with any 'relaxer' but i bet you'd have fun getting them through the door....
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...TG, yes it could be done with any 'relaxer' but i bet you'd have fun getting them through the door....
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Ikea flat packed then
assemble them once inside, mount on a swivel base, see we have been thinking about it. Or buy a van with one big front window
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...TG, yes it could be done with any 'relaxer' but i bet you'd have fun getting them through the door....
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Ikea flat packed then
assemble them once inside, mount on a swivel base, see we have been thinking about it. Or buy a van with one big front windowlol
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Some good ideas thanks folks. we have two iKEA peongs so may try next trip. If no good they can always stay in the awning! Happy caravaning
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Once again horses for courses ,that's what makes a forum like this good.We can all learn a little from each other,it is not a question of who is right or wrong.Maybe we can enrich our present way of holidaying from others.
There is no right and wrong, you are absolutely right.
There is nothing I'd like less than armchair type seating.
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I wonder if manufacturers ever read these pages? If so ladies and gentlemen, I am convinced that there's a serious market for a two-berth with fixed double or two single beds and two proper, comfortable
seats. My old back can't cope with a whole evening on the bed-settee! Come on chaps, I'm sure it's possible?Not sure this is easy without a comp,ete redesign of the front end. Manufacturers usually house the water heater and fuse box here as the bench is common to all models. The redesign would be costly so the only answer would be the beds at the front and the
lounge further back. Not sure if there is the demand for doing that.0
