What if we leave the EU?

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  • KENNYG
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    edited February 2016 #152

    When we first voted to join the EU I thought it was for easy trading not to be ruled by a bunch of people that don't know what day it is. There's a lot of people replying to this thread  who only think what it is going to cost to go to go abroad and what
    colour the passport will be I don't have a passport and don't want one when I spend my hard earned money it will stop in this country.

  • volvoman9
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    edited February 2016 #153

    When we first voted to join the EU I thought it was for easy trading not to be ruled by a bunch of people that don't know what day it is. There's a lot of people replying to this thread  who only think what it is going to cost to go to go abroad and what
    colour the passport will be I don't have a passport and don't want one when I spend my hard earned money it will stop in this country.

    I quite agree Kenny i dont give a toss what changes as regards going across the channel.Europe is not the be all and end all and they will still be more than happy too take our money wether we are in the EU or not.Europe and the EU are two very different
    things.

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  • KENNYG
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    edited February 2016 #154

    They don't like us a right lot but they ripped the money out of your hand before the EU during the EU and after the EU. 

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  • Landlubber
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    edited February 2016 #156

    Most people here who are on out side have not taken a trip acrosss the pond to experience what they are talking about. It's by far no rippoff - all sites are better and much lower costs, roads are far superior and easy to navigate. Other nationals Dutch,Germans
    and French are all friendly and courtious - and then there are the Brits. If bragging were an artform we would win hands down.

  • SteveL
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    edited February 2016 #157

    When we first voted to join the EU I thought it was for easy trading not to be ruled by a bunch of people that don't know what day it is. There's a lot of people replying to this thread  who only think what it is going to cost to go to go abroad and what
    colour the passport will be I don't have a passport and don't want one when I spend my hard earned money it will stop in this country.

    You are going to be have to be very careful what you spend it on, as this is becoming more and more difficult.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited February 2016 #158

    When we first voted to join the EU I thought it was for easy trading not to be ruled by a bunch of people that don't know what day it is. There's a lot of people replying to this thread  who only think what it is going to cost to go to go abroad and what
    colour the passport will be I don't have a passport and don't want one when I spend my hard earned money it will stop in this country.

    I quite agree Kenny i dont give a toss what changes as regards going across the channel.Europe is not the be all and end all and they will still be more than happy too take our money wether we are in the EU or not.Europe and the EU are two very different
    things.

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    The whole point of this thread is not about individual views of the EU or otherwise. The OP has posed the question about how an exit from the EU might affect our hobby and that is very important to a lot of us who regularly go to Europe on holiday often
    for several months at a time where any fundamental changes could have the affect of bringing that opportunity to travel widely into question. You can always argue that we will be able to overcome most obstacles whatever happens but will it impact on the ease
    of it?

    David

  • KENNYG
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    edited February 2016 #159

    Most people here who are on out side have not taken a trip acrosss the pond to experience what they are talking about. It's by far no rippoff - all sites are better and much lower costs, roads are far superior and easy to navigate. Other nationals Dutch,Germans
    and French are all lafriendly and courtious - and then there are the Brits. If bragging were an artform we would win hands down.

    Write your comments here...before I through my passport away I travelled Europe France Holland Germany Poland Slavakia Slavenia Italy Spain Greece Turkey. Yes I think I know what I am talking about. 

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  • Bugs
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    edited February 2016 #161

    Folks - this is not a political discussion about the forthcoming referendum. As we all know, this is a forum about our hobby and we are asked to avoid political discussion as it is outwith the scope of the forum.

    Just a reminder of the question posed by the OP:

    "I am not wanting a political discussion about the pros and cons of membership of the EU but I was reflecting on whether or not holidaying on the continent would be affected by Brexit........"

    Cheers

    Bugs

  • Hakinbush
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    edited February 2016 #162

    Oh well if there IS any significant changes I'll find out after the 6th of June, just booked euro tunnel with the club and coming back on the 2nd of July...cant wait.

  • rogerwyn
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    I would imagine nothing would change, if you look at other contries that don't belong to EU eg Norway they have all the trading rights, have to allow free movement of EU citizens and abide with EU laws, they pay 80% per person
    that we do and have no input into Brussels, I think we are being manipulated by people with  hidden agenda, just my view.

  • Oneputt
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    edited February 2016 #164

    Any change after the referendum won't take effect for 2 years so this could turn into a longer running thread than Sunday DeparturesHappy 

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2016 #165

    Most people here who are on out side have not taken a trip acrosss the pond to experience what they are talking about. It's by far no rippoff - all sites are better and much lower costs, roads are far superior and easy to navigate. Other nationals Dutch,Germans and French are all friendly and courtious - and then there are the Brits. If bragging were an artform we would win hands down.

    ..Lets not get into another  smoke and mirrors debate about "over there"because we alllknow there are good and bad the same as anywhere

  • moulesy
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    edited February 2016 #166

    Most people here who are on out side have not taken a trip acrosss the pond to experience what they are talking about. It's by far no rippoff -
    all sites are better and much lower costs, roads are far superior and easy to navigate. Other nationals Dutch,Germans and French are all friendly and courtious
    - and then there are the Brits. If bragging were an artform we would win hands down.

    Simply not true. There are great sites in Europe, there are great sites in the UK. Equally there are some really horrible cramped sites in both. There are courteuos, polite Dutch German, French and British. Just as there are rude boorish individuals of all
    nationalities. To pretend otherwise is simply nonsense!

  • Wherenext
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    edited February 2016 #167

    Couldn't agree more Moulesy but to be honest this sort of thread was bound to attract the same repetitive "we're better than you" from both sides and its always the same culprits. It really is getting totally boring.

    With regard to the question posed I don't think much will change for us as we already have to change money and show passports (in theory). Insurance may alter, for the dearer, as may length of stay but for the vast majority nothing much will change in the
    near future.

    The only possible fly in the ointment might be if legislation is introduced by the EC relating to MOTs etc and if we don't comply we may be hindered or have to introduce similar laws ourselves.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited February 2016 #168

    I wonder what would happen if they, over there, introduces MOTs for caravans, as has been muted. Would we then have to follow suit, or would it put a stop to overseas visits by those towing vans without a current MOT certificate?

  • Wherenext
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    edited February 2016 #169

    I think we would be forced into legislating ourselves as, hopefully, clubs like ours and CCC would not sit idly by and do nothing.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited February 2016 #170

    Most people here who are on out side have not taken a trip acrosss the pond to experience what they are talking about. It's by far no rippoff - all sites are better and much lower costs, roads are far superior and easy to navigate. Other nationals Dutch,Germans
    and French are all friendly and courtious - and then there are the Brits. If bragging were an artform we would win hands down.

    So are you suggesting this will change if we leave the EU, Landlubber? The thread is about possible differences if we do.

  • davetommo
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    edited February 2016 #171

    Most people here who are on out side have not taken a trip acrosss the pond to experience what they are talking about. It's by far no rippoff - all sites are better and much lower costs, roads are far superior and easy to navigate. Other nationals Dutch,Germans
    and French are all friendly and courtious - and then there are the Brits. If bragging were an artform we would win hands down.

    So are you suggesting this will change if we leave the EU, Landlubber? The thread is about possible differences if we do.

    Are cramped sites better, as i ussually find continental sites  have much smaller pitches that ours some so small that you cant park your car on the pitch. and can usually practically touch the caravan next to you 

  • mickysf
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    edited February 2016 #172

    The thing is we will only find out about how any changes will effect our hobby after an exit, if that happens. We can only second guess and that in itself could be problematic if not dangerous. Rumours and supposition are already
    rife, some of us are more than willing to believe some of this stuff being voiced and the hype is going to get worse.

    What we do know though however, with regard to our pastime, is how EU arrangements/policies/rules/regulations etc work now. I see no negatives with these. By the same token I can see no advantages at all in leaving for us caravaners. 

  • huskydog
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    edited February 2016 #173

    I don't understand why anyone would think our friends over the water would think that we would be different people if we weren't in the EU........

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  • davetommo
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    edited February 2016 #175

    I use the ones ont he caravan club website, and book via the club

  • rayjsj
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    edited February 2016 #176

    I wonder what would happen if they, over there, introduces MOTs for caravans, as has been muted. Would we then have to follow suit, or would it put a stop to overseas visits by those towing vans without a current MOT certificate?

    Write your comments here...that is where the Vienna convention comes into play, it's not an EU regulation. We respect their differences  (like having a different number plates on a trailer) and they respect ours, like no MOT 's on caravans, and they wear
    the towing vehicles reg. Plates. Easy.

  • Landlubber
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    edited February 2016 #177

    Most people here who are on out side have not taken a trip acrosss the pond to experience what they are talking about. It's by far no rippoff - all sites are better and much lower costs, roads are far superior and easy to navigate. Other nationals Dutch,Germans
    and French are all friendly and courtious - and then there are the Brits. If bragging were an artform we would win hands down.

    So are you suggesting this will change if we leave the EU, Landlubber? The thread is about possible differences if we do.

    Are cramped sites better, as i ussually find continental sites  have much smaller pitches that ours some so small that you cant park your car on the pitch. and can usually practically touch the caravan next to you 

    Write your comments here...You are quite right some are small but I find this mainly on the Cote d asure from Nice to Bandol where 90 % of Brits go - we avoid this coast these days  stay at sites from Grande Motte to Argelise where there is oceans of space
    entertainment and beaches are second to non- but don't tell anyone about this- we don't want it swamped with tourist Laughing

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  • kenexton
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    I use the ones ont he caravan club website, and book via the club

    That would explain it, if you are able to travel outside peak periods there is no need to book  or  put up with sites you don't like. If you are forced to travel at times when booking seems to be essential  make your own arrangements and if you like ask
    on this forum for recommended sites, the Caravan Club has only a tiny proportion of the 6000 plus sites in France and these will be only be the ones they have been able to negotiate commercial arrangements with and not necessarily the best or typical by any
    means.

     

    Back to the OP one negative aspect of this referendum has already emerged and the pound is at its lowest level against the dollar for many years, it this is what happens  just  due to announcing it, what the effect of an out vote would do to the currency
     does not bear thinking about .

    Write your comments here...not the whole story AD our persistently low interest rates also play into this fall in the £ -the US has raised interest rates while the B of E is currently speculating about negative interest rates.Brexit is a factor but with
    four months to go there is a danger of over-emphasising its influence upon the £.The Euro Crisis may yet re-emerge along with the Migrant issues -the characteristic prevaricating by the EU when faced with any challenge may well have a rebalancing effect on
    the £/E market-let's wait and see.The upside is that our exports are cheaper and that import cost rises made produce some price inflationand maybe eventually  a rise in interest rates paid on your savings.Every cloud....

  • Oneputt
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    I use the ones ont he caravan club website, and book via the club

    That would explain it, if you are able to travel outside peak periods there is no need to book  or  put up with sites you don't like. If you are forced to travel at times when booking seems to be essential  make your own arrangements and if you like ask
    on this forum for recommended sites, the Caravan Club has only a tiny proportion of the 6000 plus sites in France and these will be only be the ones they have been able to negotiate commercial arrangements with and not necessarily the best or typical by any
    means.

     

    Back to the OP one negative aspect of this referendum has already emerged and the pound is at its lowest level against the dollar for many years, it this is what happens  just  due to announcing it, what the effect of an out vote would do to the currency
     does not bear thinking about .

    Write your comments here...not the whole story AD our persistently low interest rates also play into this fall in the £ -the US has raised interest rates while the B of E is currently speculating about negative interest rates.Brexit is a factor but with
    four months to go there is a danger of over-emphasising its influence upon the £.The Euro Crisis may yet re-emerge along with the Migrant issues -the characteristic prevaricating by the EU when faced with any challenge may well have a rebalancing effect on
    the £/E market-let's wait and see.The upside is that our exports are cheaper and that import cost rises made produce some price inflationand maybe eventually  a rise in interest rates paid on your savings.Every cloud....

    And if it's an out vote it won't happen for 2 years so why should the markets be jittery about something that a. might not happen or b. be 2.5 years away!

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