What if we leave the EU?

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  • Oldgirl and Staffy
    Oldgirl and Staffy Forum Participant Posts: 414
    edited February 2016 #122

    An interesting and objective article giving an idea of the implications both of leaving and of staying in from

    The Guardian.

  • huskydog
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    edited February 2016 #123

    Cant see how Europe will see us any differently ,wer'e still the same people ,but may not be in their " club" 

  • peedee
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    edited February 2016 #124

    I think if we come out, the value of the pound will fall, certainly in the short term and possibly for ever. (we are no longer a manufacturing nation, think about it!) which will make it more expensive to holiday on the Continent and for that matter anywhere else.

    peedee

     

    Looks like the £ is on the way down. It could well not stabilise until after the refernedum.

    peedee

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2016 #125

    I used to go to the Continent with my parents in the 60s and we got by then and we will get by in the future whatever form it may take.As for "hostility"  well Euroscepticism is not confined to the UK population so I doubt that the Continentals would take
    a Brexit as a personal affront-it might even  catch on elsewhere?

    ...I think further exists is what some in the EU are worried about 

  • MichaelT
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    edited February 2016 #126

    I did notice that as soon as the agreement was reached last week the French issued notices to all the migrants in Calais, me thinks if we vote to get out they would reverse this and just let the migrants run riot and let thm into the tunnel and ferry terminal
    so they can get rid of them by letting them over here.  

  • Boff
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    edited February 2016 #127

    Got to say if the UK voted to leave.  If I was the French Goverment the first thing that I would do is deport all the British border guards that are stationed in Calais.

  • eyebrowsb
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    edited February 2016 #128

    If we vote to leave, what will happen to EU nationals living in UK?  Will they need to apply for visas to remain?

    Our son has a Dutch partner who came to UK about 10 years ago to study for her Masters degree in English. She has lived and worked here ever since.  Would she have to apply for a visa in order to stay here? 

  • Lutz
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    edited February 2016 #129

    If we vote to leave, what will happen to EU nationals living in UK?  Will they need to apply for visas to remain?

    It's too early to say. It depends on what conditions would be negotiated between the EU and the UK at the time of leaving the EU. It is quite possible that 'grandfahter rights' might apply for those involved.

    There are so many things that would have to be resolved. Would UK passports, for example, be invalidated because they carry the heading 'European Union' on the cover and on page 1 and the UK could issue those beloved dark blue passports again?

  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2016 #130

    If we vote to leave, what will happen to EU nationals living in UK?  Will they need to apply for visas to remain?

    ... and the UK could issue those beloved dark blue passports again?

    Good idea Cool

  • huskydog
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    edited February 2016 #131

    Perhaps i might leave getting a passport for a whileWink

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2016 #132

    Got to say if the UK voted to leave.  If I was the French Goverment the first thing that I would do is deport all the British border guards that are stationed in Calais.

    ...Then we would put all our border Guards on the ferries,but it would not be in the interest  of the French to do that and we would just revert to as it was before,which would mean faster for us through imigrationWink 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2016 #133

    Got to say if the UK voted to leave.  If I was the French Goverment the first thing that I would do is deport all the British border guards that are stationed in Calais.

    I dare say there's a load of French border guards here in Blighty that we could send home too. Wink

  • eyebrowsb
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    edited February 2016 #134

    If we vote to leave, what will happen to EU nationals living in UK?  Will they need to apply for visas to remain?

    ... and the UK could issue those beloved dark blue passports again?

    Good idea Cool

    Not a good idea!!

  • Oneputt
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    edited February 2016 #135

    I don't think any of the other countries would take immature actions like that as they have too much to lose.  it is now apparent that a lot of Europeans aren't too enamoured with the EU.  I don't believe an exit decision wold have any effect on my touring
    Europe?  

  • cyberyacht
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    edited February 2016 #136

    The issue of migrants clamouring at our borders will not change one iota whether we are in or out of the EU.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2016 #137

     ....

    Not a good idea!!

    The blue passport or visa?

  • eyebrowsb
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    edited February 2016 #138

     ....

    Not a good idea!!

    The blue passport or visa?

    I'd prefer a purple passport Laughing (with a touch of silver) Cool

  • compass362
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    edited February 2016 #139

    Political comment removed which has nothing to do with the topic introduced by the OP

  • Hakinbush
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    edited February 2016 #140

    Dont panic Mr Mannering we've stopped em once we'll do it again, as you know they dont like it up em, three and a half months sit listen sort through the chaff and make a honest oppinion and vote like-wise..

  • ABM
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    edited February 2016 #141

    Perhaps i might leave getting a passport for a whileWink

    Would  you  need  to  be  "Re-Chipped"  Huskypup  ??

  • huskydog
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    edited February 2016 #142

    Perhaps i might leave getting a passport for a whileWink

    Would  you  need  to  be  "Re-Chipped"  Huskypup  ??

    Would re-chipping make me go faster???Surprised. Use left and right arrows to navigate.

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2016 #143

    Dont panic Mr Mannering we've stopped em once we'll do it again, as you know they dont like it up em, three and a half months sit listen sort through the chaff and make a honest oppinion and vote like-wise..

    Write your comments here...+1

  • volvoman9
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    edited February 2016 #144

    Dont panic Mr Mannering we've stopped em once we'll do it again, as you know they dont like it up em, three and a half months sit listen sort through the chaff and make a honest oppinion and vote like-wise..

    Amen to that Happy

    v9

  • ABM
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    edited February 2016 #145

    Perhaps i might leave getting a passport for a whileWink

    Would  you  need  to  be  "Re-Chipped"  Huskypup  ??

    Would re-chipping make me go faster???Surprised. Use left and right arrows to navigate.

    Well  I  suppose  that  would  depend  on  the  Vet !!

    Would  he  be  using  anasthesia  or  any  other  pretender  to  the  Russian  Tsardom  I  ask  myself  ??

  • SteveL
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    edited February 2016 #146

     

    There are so many things that would have to be resolved. Would UK passports, for example, be invalidated because they carry the heading 'European Union' on the cover and on page 1 and the UK could issue those beloved dark blue passports again?

    I am not really bothered what colour it is, as long as they don't expect me to pay to replace it before it is due.

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2016 #147

    We already know what our standing is in europe with the recent few years results at the eurovision song contestCool

  • Wildwood
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    edited February 2016 #148

    Always remember you are there spending money they want. On that basis you are welcome.

  • Bob55
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    edited February 2016 #149

    I don't think anybody really knows. As requested I'm keeping this without political opinion. The following are possible:

    Longer waits to get into/out of a EU country, as no so called 'fast track' lane

    Possible visa requirements

    No EHIC so fewer reciprocal health benefits

    Duty free restrictions imposed (e.g. limited purchases for example on buying wine in France)

    Additional taxes, for example on permanent pitches, storage

    Roaming charges reintroduced

    But again nobody really knows as there will be lots of negotiation. any restriction on goods would be from uk gov,

    visa !! what fast track ? Health like now get your own cover like in Red pennant ! and as for extra taxes on pitch why!! would they and it would be discrimation under thet own laws ! Has for mobile phone I can live with out for holiday and ring home landline
    if required . some people need to talk sense (in my opinion)

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited February 2016 #150

    Bob

    I appreciate that there are a few who don't think a mobile phone is that important but for many of us it is. I can't send a text message from a landline just as one example. For those that tour for a month or two at a time, or even longer, you can't always
    get WiFi so having the ability  to use your phone for data is very useful. In the last year or so we have just reached the situation where the cost of calls and use of data from within Europe have reduced to reasonable levels. One possibility of exit would
    be to see us going back to the bad old days when it cost £1 a minute, or more, to make a voice call. 

    David

  • MichaelT
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    edited February 2016 #151

    I don't think anybody really knows. As requested I'm keeping this without political opinion. The following are possible:

    Longer waits to get into/out of a EU country, as no so called 'fast track' lane

    Possible visa requirements

    No EHIC so fewer reciprocal health benefits

    Duty free restrictions imposed (e.g. limited purchases for example on buying wine in France)

    Additional taxes, for example on permanent pitches, storage

    Roaming charges reintroduced

    But again nobody really knows as there will be lots of negotiation. any restriction on goods would be from uk gov,

    visa !! what fast track ? Health like now get your own cover like in Red pennant ! and as for extra taxes on pitch why!! would they and it would be discrimation under thet own laws ! Has for mobile phone I can live with out for holiday and ring home landline
    if required . some people need to talk sense (in my opinion)

    Write your comments here...You do not have to get red penant as you will get recipricol health care in the EU as you get at home however it is probably prudent to do so to ensure if you ahve any major issues you would be catered for to get you home etc.

    When oyu go abroad in the EU oyu can go through the EU channel "fast rack" however this may stop and my guess is it would stop to make it awkward for us.

    French would stop guarding the tunnel  and ports and jsut elt the imigrants over to get rid and as David says most of us rely on a phone or tablet in daily life not jsut for the calling aspect but facebook, internet, texting etc.  And as he points out if
    Vodafone etc. can charge you £3 a minute they will.