What if we leave the EU?
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That's a fair point, Bilderbilly......but is it worth £50million a day to have that?
well if that means as one of 60+ million Britains it costs me less than a quid a day then yes it is worth it - but thats me being selfish I accept
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So hard to say something of substance without breaking the rules, all I can say is GB is not great anymore, we need Europe, we need to co-exist with Europe and I need to tour Europe as freely as poss
a figure of 50 million has been quoted, not sure what it would cost per day if we do leave.
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I haven't toured in Europe for a few years, so not sure that I should be commenting, but here goes.The ferries will still sail and the tunnel will still be there.I can remember prior to 1972 and 75, we still had holidays in Brittany, and we never had to have visa's, we still had to have travel insurance in case we fell ill or had an accident, it has become a non event now, travelling to Europe, perhaps leaving (which is what I'll be rooting for) will return some of the mystery and fun of travelling.? I don't like belonging to a club which can override our national laws and traditions, AND which costs us a fortune to belong to. Trade will still go on, as it has for centuries.
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Lived in a flat in Old Aberdeen for 2.5 years, had a well paid job with a Danish Company in the O&G industry and communted Mon to Friday. Never had a problem with my work colleagues or neighbors. If I was away one of the neighbors kept an eye on the flat.
Found the folk nice and friendly. Never felt like an immigrant from England. Did find the gutter press sometimes whipped up anti English sentiment0 -
Seven pages so far about something that isn't going to happen.
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If we leave I assume the French will be a little more unsociable than they are now.
I certainly don't believe it will do the UK any good!
Never found them any more unsociable than many British. However, on the bottom statement we agree.
Never come across a foreigners being anti-social towards us that I could put down to nationality, I have wondered about some Brits though.
When we lived in Germany in the 70's and 80's we definately felt a general dislike feeling towards the Brits. In those days we traveled down to Italy and Spain for the summer holidays but never spent time in France as they also didn't like the brits (mind
you they didn't like the germans either) How differant things are nowadays, the Germans are much friendlier and so are the French, the Spanish have always tolerated us because we bring money into their country but ' like' I'm not so sure.One thing is for sure if we do leave Euro we will need a lot more campsite in the UK
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I am an ex.Londoner living in rural Wales, I have never had any problems getting on with the locals, I try to pronounce the local place names correctly, and respect their way of life, I try to fit in, and talk softly.And I am grateful to be allowed to live
here.I will never be a local though (my cockney accent sees to that) .0 -
There are pros and cons on both sides but people may well vote based upon their gut instincts and their own interests- I shall vote to leave but our son may well vote to remain.He has never known a time when we were not in the EU but I have.He works for
a company which trades with the EU but I am retired.What confirmed my decision was Simon Reeve's programme on BBC about Greece Part Two- we have just seen the last UK deep coal mine close at Big K with many job losses and then the Greeks are shown on TV digging
up coal and burning it in their power stations because they did not invest in sustainable generation.EU money went on on swimming pools and Porsches;evading taxation being a way of life!European common standards ?0 -
Tammygirl, how unusual...spent virtually all of the 60s and 70s in Germany and found everybody pleasant if a bit reserved....as we still do. I still complain about the French even though it doesn't go down too well particularly on this forum!!!
Don't think that 'in or out' will make one iota of difference!
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I was in Hohne in the mid to late 60's and a sizeable portion of the population of Bergen used to hold regular anti British weeks!
Been back for the past couple of years and Bergen is a sad site now the the Brit Army and Dutch military have moved out. Loads of shops, pubs etc closed, sad really. Perhaps the same will happen when the Yanks pull out of East Anglia!
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It's possible that borders will be tightened up whatever happens, so travelling in Europe may change in the future, nothing stays the same forever. We've had a good time with open borders so enjoy it while you can, EU membership or not.
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I was in Hohne in the mid to late 60's and a sizeable portion of the population of Bergen used to hold regular anti British weeks!
Been back for the past couple of years and Bergen is a sad site now the the Brit Army and Dutch military have moved out. Loads of shops, pubs etc closed, sad really. Perhaps the same will happen when the Yanks pull out of East Anglia!
...I do not think they will go it will just be Mildenhall base ,with Lakenheath taking some some and the rest to Fairford
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I was on one of my Spanish forums this morning and one of the guys there, although he also has a place in Spain, like me, is going to vote out. The trouble with the EU is that it's a bit like FIFA. If we could sort out the Sepp Blatter lookalikes....
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Remember that it the EU which wanted to impose a carvan MOT against the wishes of all the main parties at the time. It was mainly/perhaps/ (delete as you think fit) due to the main clubs, and us, lobying the MEP's that changed it, Otherwise we'd all be spending an annual sum on that coupled to the country's cost of getting each caravan its own registration plate (otherwise how would you check).
This is what gets me about the EU, someone outside our elected govermnet tells us what to do!
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Empires wax and wane and it looks as if the latest manifestation of an attempt at Empire in Europe may have reached its zenith and will,by degrees and stages , begin the process of decay and dissolution- such is history's lesson to us all.
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Remember that it the EU which wanted to impose a carvan MOT against the wishes of all the main parties at the time. It was mainly/perhaps/ (delete as you think fit) due to the main clubs, and us, lobying the MEP's that changed it, Otherwise we'd all be spending
an annual sum on that coupled to the country's cost of getting each caravan its own registration plate (otherwise how would you check).This is what gets me about the EU, someone outside our elected govermnet tells us what to do!
if we leave we will have no influence over what is needed before we can take our vans abroad.
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if we leave we will have no influence over what is needed before we can take our vans abroad.
As if we actually have at the momen!!
We can take a lesson from the French on doing a boycott. British spend a lot of holiday money in Europe whether we are a "member" or not.
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Remember that it the EU which wanted to impose a carvan MOT against the wishes of all the main parties at the time. It was mainly/perhaps/ (delete as you think fit) due to the main clubs, and us, lobying the MEP's that changed it, Otherwise we'd all be spending
an annual sum on that coupled to the country's cost of getting each caravan its own registration plate (otherwise how would you check).This is what gets me about the EU, someone outside our elected govermnet tells us what to do!
if we leave we will have no influence over what is needed before we can take our vans abroad.
...We did not have a problem before we went in
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Remember that it the EU which wanted to impose a carvan MOT against the wishes of all the main parties at the time. It was mainly/perhaps/ (delete as you think fit) due to the main clubs, and us, lobying the MEP's that changed it, Otherwise we'd all be spending
an annual sum on that coupled to the country's cost of getting each caravan its own registration plate (otherwise how would you check).This is what gets me about the EU, someone outside our elected govermnet tells us what to do!
if we leave we will have no influence over what is needed before we can take our vans abroad.
...We did not have a problem before we went in
who cares what it is was like in the 1960's ? - it's the future that is important
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The vote will be to stay in. Old folks chuntering about the old days of empire mean nothing. We have been in union with Europe for over 40yrs, the majority of voters have never known anything other than being Europeans. They will carry the day, not the 'harkers
back' We as a Country have next to nothing to crow about, within Europe we are greater/bigger/mightier. On our own we are a tiny island with no power. I don't decide on party lines, just common sense.0
