Differences between "here" and 'there'

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  • peedee
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    edited January 2016 #122

    Husky, I haven't done it but in your shoes I would seriously consider the Tunnel in view of taking your dog. David hasn't crossed with a dog but I wonder which crossing others use from choice with dogs?

    It's not only dogs, the tunnel has many advantages for the disabled and of course it is always a smooth crossing for those with an inherent fear of sea sickness.

    Ferries do give a welcome break from driving and a chance to have a meal and relax.

    peedee

  • Metheven
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    edited January 2016 #123

    Dogs stress levels take priority, we chose to have a dog so we tailor our travels to make it best for her, she loves it in the car but I'm sure a ferry crossing might not be best for her. Always drive past the ferry port of Hull to Folkestone and within
    35 minutes the train ride is over, and we are on our way.

    If we didn't have our dog I am sure we would include a ferry crossing from Hull as part of the holiday, so its down to what we think best for two adults and one dog.

  • ValDa
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    edited January 2016 #124

    Huskydog - if your dog is a good traveller then you'll find the ferries slightly cheaper (though if you have Tesco vouchers you can use them to obtain cheaper tunnel crossings).  However, if she's nervous when left in the car, or in unfamiliar surroundings
    then the tunnel is best as the dog will just sit in the back of the car, with you, as usual.

    I would think your wife's mobility problems might be a consideration too - it's a shorter crossing using the tunnel and you're up and off in France in less time.  However, for us who live further afield, the ferry provides a welcome break and a meal and
    comfort stop - though we do tend to take our own food on board as we don't enjoy ferry cuisine.

    We usually use the ferry but came back using Eurotunnel last time, as we got a very good price booking it in France, and we've used the tunnel a couple of times in the past.  

  • rogher
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    edited January 2016 #125

    Tunnel: Faster, more frequent & flexible departures.

    Ferry: Cheaper, chance to rest, but can get rough.

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2016 #126

    As you are in Kent,andwith OH with mobility problems and a dog i think the tunnel is best/if not cheapest drive on,35mins later drive off no lifts to negotiate (queues) no alarms going off on car decks to unsettle dog,we always used tunnel( after it opened) but as we have got older and now use coach companies,they tend to use ferries,except last year to Italy when the train took the strain,as If we go "over there" again will be our chosen form of travel  

  • Biggarmac
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    edited January 2016 #127

    It is some years since we went abroad with the caravan so I hope that I may be allowed to give my comments.  With our dogs we used the short ferry crossing, the tunnel and the overnight ferry from Portsmouth.  We prefered the long crossing as the dogs stayed
    in the caravan with all their own things around them and at the time they would normally be asleep. 

    We never used the Hull crossing with dogs, but loved using it without the dogs.

  • huskydog
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    edited January 2016 #128

    Update

    After chatting about this over the weekend,we have decided that 2017 will be the year the Huskydog travels overseas.

    this week i will printing off the Passport forms and getting photo's

    We have decided the Normandy will be our first trip ,and have even picked out the site "camping de la Foret", it's an aera that would be off interest to me

    I know to some it might seem a bit of a cop out just to travel such a short distance , but it's a startHappy

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2016 #129

    Update

    After chatting about this over the weekend,we have decided that 2017 will be the year the Huskydog travels overseas.

    this week i will printing off the Passport forms and getting photo's

    We have decided the Normandy will be our first trip ,and have even picked out the site "camping de la Foret", it's an aera that would be off interest to me

    I know to some it might seem a bit of a cop out just to travel such a short distance , but it's a startHappy

    ...A good start and it will have give you a flavour Smile

  • ValDa
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    edited January 2016 #130

    That's great news HD - and not at all a cop-out to not travel far.  It's what many people do for the first time.

    If it's La Foret at Jumieges, then it's an ACSI Card site, at 17 euros per night between the following dates:  01/04 - 08/07 and 26/08 - 31/10.  It seems a bit difficult to calculate their tariffs, even if you check particular dates as it's not clear what sort of pitch is being offered, so once you've got a quote check against the ACSI Card price for 2017 to see if it offers you a saving, once you've taken off the additional cost of the ACSI Card and book.  It may not be worth it for one week, but in 2018 when you go touring for three months (!!!!) it will certainly offer you savings.

    I hope everything is straightforward in your planning, you have a great time, and the weather is wonderful.

  • huskydog
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    edited January 2016 #131

    Thanks Val , i will have lots of questions nearer the timeSurprised, but i feel i can't keep putting it off......................

  • RowenaBCAMC
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    edited January 2016 #132

    Great news Husky and it sounds like a good plan! Now you have the fun of planning and preparing for your trip next year. Smile

    With regards to some of the debate that's occurred on this discussion, just a reminder to people that although we may all have varying opinions, which is fine to express, please respect the views and opinions of other contributors and keep discussions free
    from arguments. Many thanks and thanks to all those who have constructively shared their thoughts and advice.

  • Kennine
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    edited January 2016 #133

    Update

    After chatting about this over the weekend,we have decided that 2017 will be the year the Huskydog travels overseas.

    this week i will printing off the Passport forms and getting photo's

    We have decided the Normandy will be our first trip ,and have even picked out the site "camping de la Foret", it's an aera that would be off interest to me

    I know to some it might seem a bit of a cop out just to travel such a short distance , but it's a startHappy

    Write your comments here...Just crossing the channel will give you a good insight into what continental campsites and holidays are about. You don't have to travel all the way to the Med.

    Be prepared to find a lack of formality, nice welcomes when you arrive on site. siting your van whichever way you want on your pitch, generally free wifi and few people hiding away in their outfit watching TV. 

    Some people prefer this type of holiday, some people prefer the formality of a  Uk type caravanning holiday. There is no right or wrong.. Just go and enjoy yourself.

    KSmile

  • Pippy Louey
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    edited January 2016 #134

    Never forget the first time I went to France with hubby, we live in Gloucestershire and I really had my dense head on and said "will we be there in a couple of hours?" and hubby said "Times that by 2!" I was morose! But I love the tunnel adn hate the
    ferry as get seasick! We've just put off two weeks to France! Decided to do two weeks in UK first, only ever done a week at a time, we get so tired decided that a 4 hour journey to Norfolk and we're there is about all we are up to but got BIG plans to do France
    with the dogs one day! Been told by so many friends its fab for dogs and for caravanning. Its on my very soon to do list! Enjoy!

  • brue
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    edited January 2016 #135

    Husky, it doesn't matter about how far you travel, there is much to see within easy reach of the channel ports. We have French friends in the Champagne area, they live in a village on the river Vesle near Rheims. This area is easily reachable for a short
    holiday. Rheims and Laon (further north) have beautiful cathedrals and although many villages were rebuilt after WW1 they are atrractive. There are free visits to champagne houses and you can find local small producers. Lots of local history too and nice rolling
    countryside if you leave the main roads and start to explore. Hope you enjoy your visit to Normandy!

  • DSB
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    edited January 2016 #136

    Great to hear that you are going to give France a go HD.  I'm sure you will have a good time.  Look forward to reading about your adventures.

    David 

  • Oneputt
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    edited January 2016 #137

    Good start HD, hope you have a realy great time

  • ValDa
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    edited January 2016 #138

    To quote from Kennine's post: Be prepared to find a lack of formality, nice welcomes when you arrive on site. siting your van whichever way you want on your pitch, generally free wifi and few people hiding away in their outfit watching TV. 

    When we hosted a Caravan Club First Timers tour, many of the people queried that there was no regulation of which way you pitched - and we had all the 'but what about the six metre rule' questions!!  

    You may well find that almost everyone pitches sideways on, with awning and car to the front - but as you're in a motorhome, probably it's easier to drive on straight on, or reverse in.  We did site one motorhome owner on a slightly sloping  corner pitch, when the best level was diagonally across the pitch just where you would drive in. Eventually we persuaded him he could pitch that way if he wanted.  He was convinced that the site owner/manager would arrive and ask him to move!  He wasn't aaked to move - and now he's a regular traveller to France, and has done much longer trips!

  • huskydog
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    edited January 2016 #139

    Looks like iv'e got a lot of reading and homework to do !!

    But it's great to know i got good support and advice here on CT....Happy

    There might be some really stupid questions as the time gets nearerEmbarassed

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  • eurortraveller
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    edited January 2016 #141

    Hi Husky. St Luke chapter15, verse 7.Smile

  • huskydog
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    edited January 2016 #142

    Hi Husky. St Luke chapter15, verse 7.

                                     Smile. Use left and right arrows to navigate.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2016 #143

    HD, cop out?, not a bit of it. I'd say you are approaching it smartly, giving the whole thing time to bed in, grow your confidence-planCool

  • rogher
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    edited January 2016 #144

    Don’t fret about getting passports yet, HD, you’ve yet to obtain your m/h.

    It’ll be good to become familiar with the differences (I know you’ve already asked about these, but being told is quite different from learning by experience) before you launch into even more unfamiliar territory. Do as much research as you can (it is, after
    all, where most of the fun comes from) but save driving on the other side until you get there. 

  • Pippah45
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    edited January 2016 #145

    Normandy is a great idea - I loved it - varied countryside - all sorts and fabulous cheeses
    Laughing.  Don't get your passport too soon or it will run out sooner than you want! 

  • Wherenext
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    edited January 2016 #146

    Looks like iv'e got a lot of reading and homework to do !!

    But it's great to know i got good support and advice here on CT....Happy

    There might be some really stupid questions as the time gets nearerEmbarassed

    Write your comments here... There are no stupid questions, Husky. Don't know whether it's been mentioned but one big difference you will find is that you pay at the end of your stay, so if you don't like the site for any reason you don't have to worry about losing some of your fees. Just move to another site.You'll simply get a Gallic shrug of the shoulders and a bill for the number of nights you have stayed. Keep asking those questions.

  • SteveL
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    edited March 2016 #147

    Bumped

    To use for arguement on differences in price between F And UK sites, currently going on in UK section.

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited March 2016 #149

    I like it in Europe, I like it as a holiday destination with 5* accommodation. I can't compare the 2 unfavourably either way. I would if I tugged around it or drove around it for weeks/months on end in a mini-bus, it wouldn't be a holiday to me then. It'd
    be a bind. Just same old same old. Scrabbling around in a dust bowl just ain't my style-I accept some like it, brave & foolhardy would be my take on it. It really does take all sortsHappy

  • Tammygirl
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    edited March 2016 #150

    I have been following the other thread in UK sites, very interesting. We don't often use CC sites as we go over the water for our main holidays. However we do use them coming and going to the ferry and in the low season when prices are much more reasonable.
    What are the differances between here and there, well as we all know there its much cheaper in the low season and we don't have to pre-book. That I think is the main differance, site facilities can vary from site to site pretty much as in the UK, however I
    would say when its bad over there its really bad, but more times than not I would say there are way more sites to choose from and the good sites are very good. Weather plays a big part of any holiday, your chances of getting good weather I think improves when
    going over the water, but not always as we found out last September in France. Thankfully Spain isn't far away and it was nice. Now that is the differance, just a day or two drive and you will find good weather. Some of the CC sites are featureless, while
    others are delightful. We have also found this to be the case abroad, sites abroad tend to be nearer towns/cities/villages and tend to have more things to keep folk on site, like pools, restaurants and decent supermarkets. Would I only camp abroad NO, we like
    to try differant places that for us is what camping is all about, stop if you like it go if you don't. Not always an option in the UK, but it can be done with a little effort.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited March 2016 #151

    I like it in Europe, I like it as a holiday destination with 5* accommodation. I can't compare the 2 unfavourably either way. I would if I tugged around it or drove around it for weeks/months on end in a mini-bus, it wouldn't be a holiday to me then. It'd be a bind. Just same old same old. Scrabbling around in a dust bowl just ain't my style-I accept some like it, brave & foolhardy would be my take on it. It really does take all sortsHappy

    You would have just appeared to endeavour to compare unfavourably. Scrabbling around in an overcrowded island with pewter skys, quagmire pitches...  I accept some like it....

    You can't beat a bit of good old emotive bias.