Refillable and lightweight gas bottles?

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  • JimnyBobbins
    JimnyBobbins Forum Participant Posts: 61
    edited January 2016 #32

    I bought my French adaptor from www.lpgshop.co.uk 

    they sell all sorts of other bits too 

  • young thomas
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    edited January 2016 #33

    BoleroBoy,  The 11kg bottle and locker fill sounds interesting.  That was another option for me.  I had measured my locker and reckoned I could fit the larger bottle in.  Did you have to move the regulator and/or the low pressure pipe to get it in?

    Rogher, For your information, Safefill say their bottle cannot be filled by a remote fill because it does not have a separate fill valve.

    Thanks again to everyone who has contributed.

    alistair, no i didnt need to move any pipework.....although it was a tight squeeze......and i seem to remember (6 yrs ago) having to resite the plastic bottle securing 'brackets' to a different 'wall' of the locker.....easy with a couple of self tappers...as
    it was the depth of the locker rather than the width that was the tight spot....

    i then mounted the filler on to the floor of the locker using a right angled mounting plate (see gaslow website...) and this then left me with over a third of the locker free....which i used to store a pair of levelling blocks and bottle of toilet fluid,
    european LPG adaptor set etc.....

    if you use a safefil (or similar on-bottle filler type) you will need to ensure that you can get the nozzle onto the bottle when installed in the locker....with the remote filler as described above (either within the locker or in the skirt/cill) there are
    no such issues....

    other than cost, i cant think why you wouldnt use a remote filler set up, if you arent planning to remove the bottle...

    even then, costs can be reduced by using suppliers other than gaslow...

  • rogher
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    edited January 2016 #34

    BoleroBoy,  The 11kg bottle and locker fill sounds interesting.  That was another option for me.  I had measured my locker and reckoned I could fit the larger bottle in.  Did you have to move the regulator and/or the low pressure pipe to get it in?

    Rogher, For your information, Safefill say their bottle cannot be filled by a remote fill because it does not have a separate fill valve.

    Thanks again to everyone who has contributed.

    The SafeFill solution is the one I plan to use but I have not looked at the detail yet and was not planning to extend the filling point anyway. I think there is a safety valve that prevents reverse flow (out) whilst being filled and that is overcome as soon
    as anything is connected to it (the gas filling hose or a POL connector). If that’s the reason why SafeFill say “it can’t be done” I’d have thought that placing the same kind of valve in the line extension would solve that. But, if SafeFill is unsuitable,
    there’s always Alugas.

  • AlastairH
    AlastairH Forum Participant Posts: 30
    edited January 2016 #35

    rogher,  Take a look at GAS IT as well.....

    http://www.gasit.co.uk/leisure-gas-refillable-products/1-refillable-gas-bottles-gas-it.html

    They are a bit cheaper than Gaslow and the price is not that much different to Safefill when you look at the 'extras' you need.

  • rogher
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    edited January 2016 #36

    Thanks, Alastair, I will do.

    My next purchase will be based on weight more than cost. I could transfer my old GasLow bottles but think they are too heavy. 

  • young thomas
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    edited January 2016 #37

    Thanks, Alastair, I will do.

    My next purchase will be based on weight more than cost. I could transfer my old GasLow bottles but think they are too heavy. 

    roger, are you changing ypur van to go back to 3500kg?....

    what have you got in mind?

  • rogher
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    edited January 2016 #38

    6month delivery

    same make as before but 3.5t

  • young thomas
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    edited January 2016 #39

    6month delivery

    same make as before but 3.5t

    cant recall your current van....do you have an A-class? presumably on a 4250 chassis?

  • rogher
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    edited January 2016 #40

    opus

  • PuttFamily
    PuttFamily Forum Participant Posts: 9
    edited March 2016 #41

    Hi all Just spent a while looking at the Safefill system
    as I am very keen to take advantage of the cost savings when filling up with gas compared to the current bottle exchange Gaslight and Calor system.  
    Telephone the locations
    as listed on the Safefill web page for refilling to check out the response, not over impressed and very glad I have not spent any money yet, I could only find one place in Exeter as listed that said that a refill is possible, another listed location no longer
    provides LPG and could not contact the third location, did not try any more locations.  
    Live in Plymouth and also tried none listed LPG / petrol stations that turned out to
    be few and far between forecourts that sell LPG for cars.

    The reply when I did find a station that provides LPG for cars is that unless the filler point is completely separate from the container / cylinder and mounted
    on to the caravan or motor home by secure means and that the container is permanently installed I will not be allowed to fill with LPG.

    Took a look at
    http://www.uklpg.org/advice-and-information/useful-information which sets out details in their
    UIS 026 document that also states the same as given by the LPG station, also contacted UKLPG and UIS 026 is still current.

    Thinking of Gaslow now but the refill locations seem the same as Safefill !!!

    A real pity and a shame as the refill LPG cost is about
    1/3 compared to the Calor costs.

     

     

     

  • young thomas
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    edited March 2016 #42

    if you had a gaslow system with an external filler (say, in the locker wall) as we have in our MH, why would this be any different to us pulling in and filling, or a fully converted LPG vehicle?

    i use a local branded petrol station if i feel i need to fill prior to a trip.....there is also a shell garage which i could use....

  • KjellNN
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    edited March 2016 #43

    We have Gaslow cylinders in our caravan, the filling point is fitted in the side wall of the front gas locker.

    No filling station has said we cannot fill up in the 4 years we have had the system.

    We went for 2 x 6kg fixed cylinders to avoid any filling problems.

  • TanyaandMick
    TanyaandMick Forum Participant Posts: 139
    edited March 2016 #44

    We have Gaslow cylinders in our caravan, the filling point is fitted in the side wall of the front gas locker.

    No filling station has said we cannot fill up in the 4 years we have had the system.

    We went for 2 x 6kg fixed cylinders to avoid any filling problems.

    Write your comments here...we also have x2 11Kg bottles with an external filling point - fitted last year.

    Within the Norfolk area and beyond we typically use BP and or Shell and have never been refused.

  • young thomas
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    edited March 2016 #45

    @ theputtfamily....

    the other advantage is that you can continue to get cheap LPG all over europe with just an adaptor or three....no worries about running out, fill points are very common.