Escorted trips
we are thinking about going to Europe for the first time in our MH and wondered if the escort trips are worth a try. If so where?
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A good question, Brammers, but one that's hard to answer.
It depends on your confidence and courage. I guess that nine out of ten first timers go off on their own and manage well enough, but those few who really do feel they want help and support speak very well of the escorted courses which are held very close to the ferry ports.
Anything further away means you have to make your own way to the start point - which might be a few hundred miles away - you don't get the support and companionship till you are there, so you need that confidence to make the journey.
Good luck either way.
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We hosted a First Timers Abroad tour a few years ago, as Eurotraveller mentions, near to the port of Calais. Almost everyone who was on it, enjoyed having the option of supoort without organised 'tours'. However, one couple were absolutely 'shredded'
when they arrived because they'd had about twenty miles to drive on unfamiliar roads. By the end of the week they drove themselves into Little, parked, found a restaurant, and booked to go on an organised tour later in the season.Personally, when we took our caravan for the first time, we just booked a ferry, bought a campsite guide, and just 'went for it'. We toured for three weeks, taking in several areas, and have been back every year since.
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,, Ohh !! And France is a BIG country !! You won't have to go far to enjoy the hospitality and culture .Enjoy !!.
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A couple of things I forgot when I posted here earlier...you can't take dogs on any of the Club's escorted tours, and that puts a lot of people off.
And secondly, for most of the tours the Club's advertised prices do not include the ferry, tunnel or insurance - and in the end the total cost of the holiday can easily be double what it would cost to go it alone. That puts many people off too.
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we are thinking about going to Europe for the first time in our MH and wondered if the escort trips are worth a try. If so where?
Brammers
I can well understand why as a newcomer to touring in Europe that you might be considering an escourted tour. We started the same way by going to France for the first time in 1987 and I would imagine that I am now considered a very experienced Continental
traveller? You do however have to think about what you want to achieve. If its to learn the ropes with like minded people then a short taster trip to northern France might be the best. If its the company you want then one of the longer trips might suit. Its
not only the two Clubs that run such trips either.David
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Firstly I have to say that I have not been on an organised tour so others will no doubt correct me (courteously of course) if I make wrong assumptions. On the other hand the list of European countries that I have not visited is shrinking fast.
If you want to go on an organised trip because you are inexperienced and perhaps worried about going abroad then I think you will get the benefit of having some or perhaps all of the logistics and planning done for you. You may also feel more secure being
in a group and this may provide company and the opportunity to meet new like minded friends. Some trips travel in a convoy but not all so the
in transit comfort may not actually happen. So you need to look at and analyse what any particular trip offers and includes e.g. does it include breakdown/rescue/medical insurance ferry/tunnel costs etc. etc.Against this I think organised trips are a pretty expensive way to travel although I acknowledge that there is a value in the trips/admissions and meal content and that the organisers and their agents and suppliers all want to make a profit. Additionally
I am not aware of the mix between Caravanners and M/H on such trips. They tend to go to a limited number of sites for each trip e.g. The Dresden offering for the Club is 8 days in the same site. I don't understand how a M/Homer on such a trip would deal with
self-organised outings away from the site as the logistics seem to be geared to having a towcar. No doubt some car sharing would occur but personally I would not want to rely on that.As I have said before a M/H pattern of travel is normally
A--B--C--D--E-A but a caravan tends to be A-B-C-B-D-B-E-B-A.
There is lots of information on the web (including the clubs own resources) and a excellent book Go Motorhoming from Vicarious Books which will help you plan a European trip on your own and understand what Europe is like. ACSI off season site deductions
and the use of Aires/Stelplatz/Sosta or their equivalent allows you to get up close to places that an organised trip can't do and for me that is essence of what M/H should be about (a bit of an adventure not something which is organised to nth degree). If
you have any experience at all in driving on the "wrong" side of the road you will find driving in Europe relatively easy because traffic tends to be lighter (there are exceptions) and driving standards mainly good. Oh and if you are going early in the year
say April-June inclusive you can nearly always get by in Europe without booking sites ahead.Your first foreign trip has the potential to be a great adventure so use the remaining winter months to learn and plan.
Best of luck whatever you decide.
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Not been on one but met a CC organized one in Northern France for first timers.Travel was not in convoy BUT very detailed maps were given and everyone a) enjoyed themselves and b) said that they would never have done it on their own but thanks to this trip
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We went on a First Time Abroad tour with CC in 2014, having bought our first caravan the previous year. Whilst we had lots of European holiday experience, we just felt it would be nice to have the back-up of the Club when it came to ferries, continental
sites and general caravanning stuff. Have to say the trip was first-class. Superbly planned and beautifully executed by the two hosting couples. it was not "regimented" but there was structure for those that wanted it. Two really interesting coach trips were
included and two group meals organised also. We had loads of fun, enjoyed meeting others with shared misgivings and in the end shared achievements. I'd highly recommend it.0 -
The last thing you want is a convoy. It makes concentrating on your driving even harder as you are distracted by trying to keep up/ watch for the outfit following. A bunch of nose to tail outfits won't endear you to the other motorists either.
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The last thing you want is a convoy. It makes concentrating on your driving even harder as you are distracted by trying to keep up/ watch for the outfit following. A bunch of nose to tail outfits won't endear you to the other motorists either.
Write your comments here...Not if you were in the Merchant Navy & in the North Atlantic 75 yearso ago CY .
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The first time we took a caravan to France hubby had only been abroad once before on a coach trip so not only had not towed but not driven. One of these tours, as stated, only starts at the first site so you still have the 'ordeal' of getting on the ferry and the first drive to your first destination on your own. We went Plymouth/Roscoff that first time to save as much driving over in France as possible. If I were going to day for the first time I would spend the extra money on the Portsmouth/Cherbourg crossing as the roads are quieter than around Calais, rather than on a conducted tour, and have my first stop on the Cherbourg peninsula. It is so much easier than you expect doing the whole French experience and when you have found that out for yourselves you can venture further. If that take two days or a week it is up to you.
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Hello
We have hosted many C.C. Tours including First Timers and the idea of a convoy is a total "NoNo". It is very dangerous and what happens if someone becomes detached and lost.
All participants on First Timers Tours are notified that they should NOT convoy but they do receive really excellent directions and all the necessary info. needed to make their first journey abroad as stressfree as possible. They maybe arrive on site a
little stressed but by the end of their stay most can't wait to get away abroad on their own. It is an excellent introduction to touring in Europe.Most of these participants are in the older age groups and really enjoy having their hands held for the first time. It has given us great pleasure to meet up with a number of them on other sites as they spread their wings and enjoy Europe.
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I think if it takes an organised trip to get you to go over the water to europe then go for it. I am interested to hear that most people go it alone after their first trip.
Interested to hear how these trips work for motorhomers in terms of trips away from site
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My first solo trip to France after a long break from towing - I packed a tent on a trip to visit my brother - with two overnight stops planned - when I got to Dieppe I just imagined I had the caravan on the back and travelled that way! I was planning not
to put the tent up if the weather was unkind but both nights were great fun - I did miss the caravn's luxury though! The next trip was with the caravan and there have been a few since. I think we have to do what we are comfortable with - but I had a lot
of encouragement from other "campers" telling me I could do it! That helped a lot! Going a little out of my comfort zone was very good for morale too.0 -
We have always done our own thing but having recieved the Escorted Europe Tours brochure (a month at least ago!) my wife wants me to consider doing one but...having a week on our own in France first, then joining a 'tour' and then having a final week on
our own before returning to UK as she was so impressed by what was on offer and potentially with a bit of company. So whats wrong with me missus!!0 -
Blue Van Man. Most tours have a mixture of caravanners and motorhomes. If the motor homers are on a First Timers Tour they will be encouraged to go off site even if it is just to do some shopping or get fuel. Caravanners can also help out with transport
but the purpose of the Tour is to get the drivers all to get as much practice as possible and to build confidence. The excursions on most of the tours have coaches arranged for everyone and this means that a lunch with a glass of wine can be enjoyed.We are hoping to host the two Loire Tours in June from 13 th June at Les Saules followed by Bois du Bardelet on 29th June and would love to meet up with anyone at either of these sites.
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Hi Marz, I am sure you will be perfect hosts, but....
An 8 night stay at Bois de Bardelet is looking like £160, but the 8 night organised tour at the same site is £549. Yes?
So for the extra £389 we would get a welcome drink and a farewell meal, plus a coach trip, a visit to a castle, and a boat ride. Yes?
If my arithmetic is right then I think that's dear. Sorry.
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OK so it sounds like the tours are mainly geared to/patronised by first timers. I can see that could provide experience and training benefits as well as the social aspect. I appreciate also that they may be of particular interest to the "more mature" client.
In my past life I never attended a course or training without coming away with something important that I had learned. So they have a place but not for me as my next trip planned is to the far North of Norway via the Baltic states.0 -
Euro traveller. I agree that people can make their own choices as we do when on our own, and that Tours are not cheap but there is no compulsion to sign up for them. If they were not popular they would not exist. We do not work for the Club except as hosts
for one or two tours each year but it is interesting to us that some people sign up for tours year after year as they love being in a group and having everything organised for them. Maybe as folk get older they like the fact that someone will take over if
things go wrong. Each to their own way of travelling.0 -
Can understand why people might use a tour for far flung places. Also, personally interested in the various wine tours, the c&cc have a particularly interesting one to Portugal and Spain, would seem to be an excellent way of visiting vineyards, no problems
tasting 'cos transport included. Interested to hear from anyone who has done one of these tours.0