CC policy question - Campervan barred from site?!

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  • jennyc
    jennyc Forum Participant Posts: 957
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    edited August 2016 #92

     

    thanks for your comments,my origanal post was about a cc ruling which if you took the trouble to read properly you would have noticed was in fact reallity and not my thoughts,  your assumption that i look down on other members is refuted,
    and to virtually accuse me of being a lurker is  nothing short of disgraceful and i look forward to you recinding your remark, for what its worth if you can understand plain english i am just a normal hard working professional driver (all licenses)
    and therefore think i fit in with most people who use club for very similar reasons,i do hope we meet up on site one day where i can park my greasy oily 12 tonne tow truck complete with winch which i use as my towcar, next to your outfit wont mind that will
    you? 

    perhaps you should reread my post as I don't accuse you of being a lurker. The CC ruling was before my time as a member  I know because I read it properly 

    I'll not be rescinding anything and I wouldn't mind if you parked next to me with a greasy 12 tonne tow truck because I am not a snob 

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    Well JayEss you seem to have been misunderstood, misquoted and threatened all in one post. All of which is unjustified and unacceptable. If you are magnanimous enough to agree to parking next to a greasy 12 ton tow truck, then I'm not. I don't pay a CC subscription
    to spend my nights on a lorry park, I expect decent surroundings and sensible visual pollution. If, and it's unlikely, a warden was browbeaten into admitting a greasy 12 ton pickup truck next to me then he would find himself, in no uncertain terms, to unadmit
    it by the following day courtesy of a head office instruction. This thread, from Dan's original query, raised somewhat provocatively I suspect, has degenarated into fantacy. We all know that curtain twitching and military thinking in the CC is at odds with
    greasy trucks and tents on roofs.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited August 2016 #93

    Pedantry, and snobbery, alive and kicking on a Club Site near you!

  • jennyc
    jennyc Forum Participant Posts: 957
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    edited August 2016 #94

     

    We daren't erect our whip mast with a fish pennant on a CC site. 

    For that I am truly grateful ROFL

    Seriously I often see flags flown. I personally dislike them as I don't like it when they are fluttering on the periphery of my vision or rusttling in the wind as I simply find it an irritation. 

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    I know that on a CC site, you'll be grateful, which is why we don't use it. But at festivals and some event rally's where flags are the norm, we do. Actually the fluttering doesn't occur with the inflatable fish style of pennant which we use. Nonetheless horses for courses and respect for others.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited August 2016 #95

    JC, why do you think Dan's post is provocative? He has only posted twice in the whole thread, both of which have shown nothing but politeness, clarity regarding the issue in question, a picture to help with any misunderstanding, and a polite thank you to
    Rochelle for clarifying the Club's stance regarding the roof tent. Nothing provocative in either and a legitimate query regarding something other than a white sleeping box, which is the Club's main source of income?

  • jennyc
    jennyc Forum Participant Posts: 957
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    edited August 2016 #96

    JC, why do you think Dan's post is provocative? He has only posted twice in the whole
    thread, both of which have shown nothing but politeness, clarity regarding the issue in question, a picture to help with any misunderstanding, and a polite thank you to Rochelle for clarifying the Club's stance regarding the roof tent.
    Nothing provocative in either and a legitimate query regarding something other than a white sleeping box, which is the Club's main source of income?

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    I think, that when it's blatantly obvious that CC sites are operated in a very disciplined manner, that Dan may have used his free spirit to have indulged in a little tongue in cheek provocation. I might be tempted to share an amusement
    at the results. If you look back through posts you will see that I have addressed Dan directly, in positive terms. Never have I denigrated Dan nor his van, in fact I've illustrated some empathy. What I have, however, advocated, is that decisions on the suitability
    of Dan's van, in this particular club, is a club decision, designed to reflect the wishes of the majority of members.

  • Simpleton855
    Simpleton855 Forum Participant Posts: 72
    edited August 2016 #97

    Pedantry, and snobbery, alive and kicking on a Club Site near you!

    And they are among the reasons I find myself using club sites less and less...

  • compass362
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    edited August 2016 #98

    Thanks for the official reply Rochelle, if those are the rules then that does explain why some sites are more accomodating than others and I completely accept that.

    To clarify my position I am not lobbying for change of an organisation that I am not a part of, and I do not intend to join the CC. I just felt this situation needed clarifying and wanted to gain an insight
    to members opinions. I see I have split the field and I must admit I have read many of these comments with a wry smile. I grew up sailing a very scruffy yacht in the Solent and have dealt with far worse attitudes from certain yacht clubs. 

    I shall continue to revel in my 'outlaw' status and will indeed phone ahead in future to determine which sites will let us in. Either that or I'll find myself a £100 ebay special caravan so I can fit in with
    the crowd!

    If anyone is touring the southwest tip of Cornwall this next week and sees a big green landrover come and say Hi! 

    Cheers, 

    Dan

    Write your comments here...I think we all need to take a deep breath & count to ten . 

    The OP as had a explanation to the situation he found himself in & the information provided by Rochelle should put the issue straight , he's now aware of where & when he can continue to use CC sites .

    Clearly the CC need to review any  rule changes regarding odd / unusual units that could potentially want access to sites in the future.

    That's got to be a good investment for any up & coming new members to the club .

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2016 #99

     

    We daren't erect our whip mast with a fish pennant on a CC site. 

    For that I am truly grateful ROFL

    Seriously I often see flags flown. I personally dislike them as I don't like it when they are fluttering on the periphery of my vision or rusttling in the wind as I simply find it an irritation. 

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    I know that on a CC site, you'll be grateful, which is why we don't use it. But at festivals and some event rally's where flags are the norm, we do. Actually the fluttering doesn't occur with the inflatable fish style of pennant which we use. Nonetheless
    horses for courses and respect for others.

    On any site I would be grateful. I have no great bone to pick but (maybe because of sight problems) I do find it to be an irritation much like flashing Cristmas lights although I like the static Christmas lights

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited August 2016 #100

    JC, 'blatantly obvious' to seasoned members-yes. To a new to CC none member quite probably no. I saw no mischief at all.

  • nicko
    nicko Forum Participant Posts: 101
    edited August 2016 #101

     

    We daren't erect our whip mast with a fish pennant on a CC site. 

    For that I am truly grateful ROFL

    Seriously I often see flags flown. I personally dislike them as I don't like it when they are fluttering on the periphery of my vision or rusttling in the wind as I simply find it an irritation. 

    Write your comments here...

    I know that on a CC site, you'll be grateful, which is why we don't use it. But at festivals and some event rally's where flags are the norm, we do. Actually the fluttering doesn't occur with the inflatable fish style of pennant which we use. Nonetheless
    horses for courses and respect for others.

    On any site I would be grateful. I have no great bone to pick but (maybe because of sight problems) I do find it to be an irritation much like flashing Cristmas lights although I like the static Christmas lights

    how do people feel about lights around the pitch? i sometimes put imitation trees around (only small) that illuminate at night,not blackpool i hasten to add just to brighten up a very dark area

  • jennyc
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    edited August 2016 #102

     

    We daren't erect our whip mast with a fish pennant on a CC site. 

    For that I am truly grateful ROFL

    Seriously I often see flags flown. I personally dislike them as I don't like it when they are fluttering on the periphery of my vision or rusttling in the wind as I simply find it an irritation. 

    Write your comments here...

    I know that on a CC site, you'll be grateful, which is why we don't use it. But at festivals and some event rally's where flags are the norm, we do. Actually the fluttering doesn't occur with the inflatable fish style of pennant which we use. Nonetheless
    horses for courses and respect for others.

    On any site I would be grateful. I have no great bone to pick but (maybe because of sight problems) I do find it to be an irritation much like flashing Cristmas lights although I like the static Christmas lights

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    I can only sympathise but recommend that you don't attend open event rallies where pennants are prevelant. An exception might be the Light Aircraft Association rally at the start of September - flags aren't popular next to airfields. But Thurs to Mon for
    £20, sans EHU for the biggest air rally in Europe, and there's a world class Deli a mile away - Seee you there. Sywell Northants.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited August 2016 #103

    Sorry but I don't think you have shown a deal of empathy with Dan, JC. "Not up to VW standards; outfit controversial; mind games; lobbying to change an organisation; improvised shack; crudely converted van"

    These are all phrases used in your posts. Perhaps not meant about the OPs outfit in particular, but indicative of how you view anything not akin to the Club's usual customers. Dan's outfit is possibly worth twice, maybe three times the average caravan, and
    certainly looks a very nice set up, nothing basic or crude about it, just different. 

  • IamtheGaitor
    IamtheGaitor Forum Participant Posts: 529
    edited August 2016 #104

     If, and it's unlikely, a warden was browbeaten into admitting a greasy 12 ton pickup truck next to me then he would find himself, in no uncertain terms, to unadmit it by the following day courtesy of a head office instructio

    On what grounds? If it is the tow vehicle and it is within the pitch with no distance issues created by its size then it would have to be removed just because you didnt like looking at it and it fell below your arbitrary standards of snobbery?

  • IanH
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    edited August 2016 #105

    Jenny......we flew into the Sywell rally last September. Some 'interesting' airmanship in the circuit, but well worth it. 

    So many light aircraft in one place to look at!

    That was my second visit by air and thinking about it again for this year.

  • jennyc
    jennyc Forum Participant Posts: 957
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    edited August 2016 #106

    Jenny......we flew into the Sywell rally last September. Some 'interesting' airmanship in the circuit, but well worth it. 

    So many light aircraft in one place to look at!

    That was my second visit by air and thinking about it again for this year.

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    It's big, the biggest in Europe, and years since I flew in. Sadly no medical now due to heart murmurs. Though I occasionally still fly aerobatics in a Walta Extra, two up, from Cambridge. Let's hope it's not too windy. Sywell can be bleak. If you are equipped
    to live without EHU it makes a great opportunity in a nice location.

  • jennyc
    jennyc Forum Participant Posts: 957
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    edited August 2016 #107

    Sorry but I don't think you have shown a deal of empathy with Dan, JC. "Not up to VW standards; outfit controversial; mind games; lobbying to change an organisation; improvised shack; crudely converted van"

    These are all phrases used in your posts. Perhaps not meant about the OPs outfit in particular, but indicative of how you view anything not akin to the Club's usual customers. Dan's outfit is possibly worth twice, maybe three times the average caravan, and
    certainly looks a very nice set up, nothing basic or crude about it, just different. 

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    Well we'll have to agree to differ on anything that you you think regardless of my own words. BTW I haven't chosen to stay on a CC site for 12 months now. I do use CLs though.

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
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    edited August 2016 #108

     

    We daren't erect our whip mast with a fish pennant on a CC site. 

    For that I am truly grateful ROFL

    Seriously I often see flags flown. I personally dislike them as I don't like it when they are fluttering on the periphery of my vision or rusttling in the wind as I simply find it an irritation. 

    Write your comments here...

    I know that on a CC site, you'll be grateful, which is why we don't use it. But at festivals and some event rally's where flags are the norm, we do. Actually the fluttering doesn't occur with the inflatable fish style of pennant which we use. Nonetheless
    horses for courses and respect for others.

    On any site I would be grateful. I have no great bone to pick but (maybe because of sight problems) I do find it to be an irritation much like flashing Cristmas lights although I like the static Christmas lights

    how do people feel about lights around the pitch? i sometimes put imitation trees around (only small) that illuminate at night,not blackpool i hasten to add just to brighten up a very dark area

    I personally have no problem (as long as not Blackpool Illuminations) Happy

     

  • Oneputt
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    edited August 2016 #109

    Just love it, however I would be wary of drinking too muchHappy

  • geoffeales
    geoffeales Forum Participant Posts: 322
    edited August 2016 #110

    at Bolton Abbey last year, a couple opposite us put up a massive Scottish Saltire on a pole. OTT? we thought so until they put the flashing christmas lights all around the awning then, as if that wasn't enough, they had a set of disco laser lights flashing
    inside as well. They then went out for the evening and left the light show for the rest of us to enjoy(?) It takes all sorts!

  • JohnM20
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    edited August 2016 #111

    If the CC don't like these quirky sorts of caravans why do they frequently include them in 'Tail Lights' in the magazine?

  • Navigateur
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    edited August 2016 #112

    Perhaps as a warning example of what they think should not be allowed?

  • jeffcc
    jeffcc Forum Participant Posts: 430
    edited August 2016 #113

    jennyc try reading my post before you jump down my throat i clearly pointed out that if the landy were being used for primary sleeping then the roof mounted tent could also be occupied As in the section where it states used for extra sleeping!!  As the op
    clearly states he does have a sleeping berth in the conversion!!  hence my clear and
    Unambiguous post

    At no point did i contradict Rochelle's post

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    Sorry if you feel jumped down, that wasn't my intention. Nonetheless if you read your post as written, though maybe not intended, your first proposition is that by virtue of having facilities in the vehicle it qualifies as primary accommodation. It's only
    in your second proposition that you include sleeping in the vehicle as well as above. Its clear to me that the CCs policy only allows your second proposition.

    I am sorry JC how ever the original post clearly stated he had sleeping accomodation inside the unit did not think i had to repeat the post. At the end of the day it boils down to interpretation of what does and does not constitute a motorhome and the CC
    is quite anbiguous in this area.

    to highlight this Edinburgh early this year a dutch couple were sleeping in a van with a matress and primus stove in the back!!(is that a motorhome?) Did it bother me ? No each to there own as long as it is not affecting my enjoyment. p.s. the dutch couple
    were a right laugh and we spent two night out with them

  • Vulcan
    Vulcan Forum Participant Posts: 670
    edited August 2016 #114

    Clearly in this particular case the answer is to claim that you are a member of the Gypsy fraternity, they wouldn't dare turn you away irrespective of what you turned up in..

  • ScreenName81EAA25547
    ScreenName81EAA25547 Forum Participant Posts: 1
    edited November 2020 #115

    I thought the name is the Caravan and Motorhome Club.

  • scoutman
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    edited August 2020 #116

    Wow, where did this 4yr old post pop up from?