CC policy question - Campervan barred from site?!
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vans with signwriting all over them sending out the wrong image of club sites
What is the 'wrong image' then? Someone who works for a living and uses their van as a tow vehicle by choice or necessity.....oh how terribly wrong!
dont think the van with sign writing on that just stole all the seating and upholstery from my van actually work for a living,they just help themselves to other peoples equipment or is that perfectly allright(as seen by cctv)
While I'm sorry about the theft from your van I can't agree with your view on sign written vehicles and posts like this is the sort of thing that makes people think the CC is full of snobs who look down on others.
So if there are any lurkers out there who think this view is held across the membership - it's not. Well not by this member anyway
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Thanks for the official reply Rochelle, if those are the rules then that does explain why some sites are more accomodating than others and I completely accept that.
To clarify my position I am not lobbying for change of an organisation that I am not a part of, and I do not intend to join the CC. I just felt this situation needed clarifying and wanted to gain an insight
to members opinions. I see I have split the field and I must admit I have read many of these comments with a wry smile. I grew up sailing a very scruffy yacht in the Solent and have dealt with far worse attitudes from certain yacht clubs.I shall continue to revel in my 'outlaw' status and will indeed phone ahead in future to determine which sites will let us in. Either that or I'll find myself a £100 ebay special caravan so I can fit in with
the crowd!If anyone is touring the southwest tip of Cornwall this next week and sees a big green landrover come and say Hi!
Cheers,
Dan
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surely the extract below from the official guidelines indicate that it can be used, as the primary accomodation is the landrover and the roof tent is only used for sleeping or you could look at that from another view that if someone sleeps in the Landy then someone can sleep in the tent. Rules are what you make of them!!
Roof tents are acceptable on Club Sites as ‘ancillary accommodation’ i.e. as extra sleeping space in support of a caravan or motorhome which is the primary accommodation.
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Dan, Geez mate don't rock up on a CC site with a £100 C/van, it'll bring a whole world of pain down on you. . . .There are standards
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Thanks for the official reply Rochelle, if those are the rules then that does explain why some sites are more accomodating than others and I completely accept that.
To clarify my position I am not lobbying for change of an organisation that I am not a part of, and I do not intend to join the CC. I just felt this situation needed clarifying and wanted to gain an insight
to members opinions. I see I have split the field and I must admit I have read many of these comments with a wry smile. I grew up sailing a very scruffy yacht in the Solent and have dealt with far worse attitudes from certain yacht clubs.I shall continue to revel in my 'outlaw' status and will indeed phone ahead in future to determine which sites will let us in. Either that or I'll find myself a £100 ebay special caravan so I can fit in with
the crowd!If anyone is touring the southwest tip of Cornwall this next week and sees a big green landrover come and say Hi!
Cheers,
Dan
Good for you Dan. I hope that you can continue to spend quality holiday time with your family. I am also sure that the vast majority of members would make no fuss whatsoever over your accommodation, probably far more interested in having a look around it.
Take a look at caravanchat.co.uk forum, lots of fellow LR owners and admirers on there, you would no doubt be warmly welcomed! Not a Club, just an independent website for fellow tourers!
PS, the green lane from Levant Engine House, across the headlands past Botallack, and on down to exit just below St Just is nice, great scenery!
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surely the extract below from the official guidelines indicate that it can be used, as the primary accomodation is the landrover and the roof tent is only used for sleeping or you could look at that from another view that if someone sleeps in the Landy then
someone can sleep in the tent. Rules are what you make of them!!Roof tents are acceptable on Club Sites as ‘ancillary accommodation’ i.e.
as extra sleeping space in support of a caravan or motorhome which is the primary accommodation.Write your comments here...
Which bit of "as extra sleeping space" do you not regard as referring to the split between primary and additional accommodation in the CCs reply?
Dan, I think that you are sensible in deciding not to join the CC. I spent yesterday afternoon with a friend who has a very scruffy but much loved sub £1,000 caravan. He decided long ago that the CC wasn't for him, preferring what he feels is a more friendly
C&CC. You'd like him too, he's a free spirit and very intelligent, but unconventional. As someone myself, who spent their 20th birthday in Southern Italy, having arrived in a crudely converted Bedford van, I entirely support free spirits. There's a place for
Kaftans (I'm a child of the 60s) and a place for convention - suits and conservatism. The latter tends to help financially though. PS I've enjoyed sailing on a budget too.0 -
jennyc try reading my post before you jump down my throat i clearly pointed out that if the landy were being used for primary sleeping then the roof mounted tent could also be occupied As in the section where it states used for extra sleeping!! As the op clearly states he does have a sleeping berth in the conversion!! hence my clear and Unambiguous post
At no point did i contradict Rochelle's post
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Dan, good on you! Carry on camping in your LR and don't let em grind you down. C&CC are far more tolerant and I'm embarrassed that you've come up against some antis here and in CC in general. While they're complaining about your unit they'd do well to hold
the mental image of our Chairman making an a** of himself in COTY in their heads. If ever anything 'lowered the tone' that did.Enjoy West Cornwall.
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jennyc try reading my post before you jump down my throat i clearly pointed out that if the landy were being used for primary sleeping then the roof mounted tent could also be occupied As in the section where it states used for extra sleeping!! As the op
clearly states he does have a sleeping berth in the conversion!! hence my clear and
Unambiguous postAt no point did i contradict Rochelle's post
Write your comments here...
Sorry if you feel jumped down, that wasn't my intention. Nonetheless if you read your post as written, though maybe not intended, your first proposition is that by virtue of having facilities in the vehicle it qualifies as primary accommodation. It's only
in your second proposition that you include sleeping in the vehicle as well as above. Its clear to me that the CCs policy only allows your second proposition.0 -
If anyone is touring the southwest tip of
Cornwall this next week and sees a big green landrover come and say Hi!That should really narrow it down. There's going to be an awful lot of farmers being greeted by strangers.
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I reckon Dan did a grand thing by starting a thread on here, He will now realise that not only do CC'ers not tolerate 'different' they will sniffily argue to the enth degree anyone who contradicts them. Dan, you had a lucky escape I'd say-good on yer
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I'm not interested in what JennyC did in a Bedford van in the nineteen sixties but I would like to think that the CC has progressed beyond this questionable type of vetting in the 21st century. I'm glad that Dan raised the question, just sorry the answers
appeared to be so disappointing. Enjoy your trip to Cornwall Dan!0 -
Just love the attitude Dan. We have a Brit couple next to us in Holland with a half restored, multi coloured Citron and an ancient Finesse and what a delightful couple, who are really enjoying their holiday. Let's have more variety rather than more regulation.
BTW the CC allow travellers on site who are more likely to cause problems for the club and other users than a guy with a Landy with a tent on top!0 -
Dan, watch out in the forecast winds if you're up top.
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Dan, good on you! Carry on camping in your LR and don't let em grind you down. C&CC are far more tolerant and I'm embarrassed that you've come up against some antis here and in CC in general.
Not seen any criticism of Dan's outfit from the members on here?
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Dan, good on you! Carry on camping in your LR and don't let em grind you down. C&CC are far more tolerant and I'm embarrassed that you've come up against some antis here and in CC in general.
Not seen any criticism of Dan's outfit from the members on here?
That's not what I said, Easy, but there are posts with negative tones.
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Dan, good on you! Carry on camping in your LR and don't let em grind you down. C&CC are far more tolerant and I'm embarrassed that you've come up against some antis here and in CC in general.
Not seen any criticism of Dan's outfit from the members on here?
Write your comments here...
Neither have I. But the views expressed have frightened dissenters away.and are unlikely to be typical. You can be sure that there would be some in real life. We daren't erect our whip mast with a fish pennant on a CC site. See other threads. Meanwhile,
I think, the CC has reflected a majority view.0 -
vans with signwriting all over them sending out the wrong image of club sites
What is the 'wrong image' then? Someone who works for a living and uses their van as a tow vehicle by choice or necessity.....oh how terribly wrong!
dont think the van with sign writing on that just stole all the seating and upholstery from my van actually work for a living,they just help themselves to other peoples equipment or is that perfectly allright(as seen by cctv)
While I'm sorry about the theft from your van I can't agree with your view on sign written vehicles and posts like this is the sort of thing that makes people think the CC is full of snobs who look down on others.
So if there are any lurkers out there who think this view is held across the membership - it's not. Well not by this member anyway
thanks for your comments,my origanal post was about a cc ruling which if you took the trouble to read properly you would have noticed was in fact reallity and not my thoughts, your assumption that i look down on other members is refuted, and to virtually accuse me of being a lurker is nothing short of disgraceful and i look forward to you recinding your remark, for what its worth if you can understand plain english i am just a normal hard working professional driver (all licenses) and therefore think i fit in with most people who use club for very similar reasons,i do hope we meet up on site one day where i can park my greasy oily 12 tonne tow truck complete with winch which i use as my towcar, next to your outfit wont mind that will you?
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vans with signwriting all over them sending out the wrong image of club sites
What is the 'wrong image' then? Someone who works for a living and uses their van as a tow vehicle by choice or necessity.....oh how terribly wrong!
dont think the van with sign writing on that just stole all the seating and upholstery from my van actually work for a living,they just help themselves to other peoples equipment or is that perfectly allright(as seen by cctv)
While I'm sorry about the theft from your van I can't agree with your view on sign written vehicles and posts like this is the sort of thing that makes people think the CC is full of snobs who look down on others.
So if there are any lurkers out there who think this view is held across the membership - it's not. Well not by this member anyway
thanks for your comments,my origanal post was about a cc ruling which if you took the trouble to read properly you would have noticed was in fact reallity and not my thoughts, your assumption that i look down on other members is refuted, and to virtually accuse me of being a lurker is nothing short of disgraceful and i look forward to you recinding your remark, for what its worth if you can understand plain english i am just a normal hard working professional driver (all licenses) and therefore think i fit in with most people who use club for very similar reasons,i do hope we meet up on site one day where i can park my greasy oily 12 tonne tow truck complete with winch which i use as my towcar, next to your outfit wont mind that will you?
perhaps you should reread my post as I don't accuse you of being a lurker. The CC ruling was before my time as a member I know because I read it properly
I'll not be rescinding anything and I wouldn't mind if you parked next to me with a greasy 12 tonne tow truck because I am not a snob
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We daren't erect our whip mast with a fish pennant on a CC site.
For that I am truly grateful
Seriously I often see flags flown. I personally dislike them as I don't like it when they are fluttering on the periphery of my vision or rusttling in the wind as I simply find it an irritation.
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We daren't erect our whip mast with a fish pennant on a CC site.
For that I am truly grateful
Seriously I often see flags flown. I personally dislike them as I don't like it when they are fluttering on the periphery of my vision or rusttling in the wind as I simply find it an irritation.
careful the pc brigade are watching !!!!!!!
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Right, now we seem to have sucessfully got rid of an Undesirable from our ranks, can all you politically correct types from the membership, please do something about getting rid of the bloody silly Pods, which have no possible place on a CC site, they are not mobile, unlikely to be used by a member, take up valuable space on site, and whats more, make far less sense than our OPs Landrover. Before i said hypocrites, now i say bloody hypocrites. Just off to spray my campervan in Army Camoflage paint. Oh yes, and going to get a few battle pennants and a Skull and crossbones flag. So i dont blend in.
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Whatevers wrong with the odd Plumbers Van or General Builder, as long as he only tows his caravan with it, and doesnt bring his cement mixer onsite. Signwritten vehicles have been welcome by the Club for a few years now, although some Wardens like them
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I have often wondered about steaming off these stickers to see what the 'van looks like plain. The older it and I get the more likely it is to happen.
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vans with signwriting all over them sending out the wrong image of club sites
What is the 'wrong image' then? Someone who works for a living and uses their van as a tow vehicle by choice or necessity.....oh how terribly wrong!
dont think the van with sign writing on that just stole all the seating and upholstery from my van actually work for a living,they just help themselves to other peoples equipment or is that perfectly allright(as seen by cctv)
So one particular sign written van commits a crime and therefore all sign written van drivers are criminals? How totally ridiculous.
The ones who stole your upholstery must be fairly stupid though - unless the van was nicked- as its going to be very easy to identify and track them down.
i can park my greasy oily 12 tonne tow truck complete with winch which i use as my towcar, next to your outfit wont mind that will you?
no, wouldnt worry me in the slightest.
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vans with signwriting all over them sending out the wrong image of club sites
What is the 'wrong image' then? Someone who works for a living and uses their van as a tow vehicle by choice or necessity.....oh how terribly wrong!
dont think the van with sign writing on that just stole all the seating and upholstery from my van actually work for a living,they just help themselves to other peoples equipment or is that perfectly allright(as seen by cctv)
So one particular sign written van commits a crime and therefore all sign written van drivers are criminals? How totally ridiculous.
The ones who stole your upholstery must be fairly stupid though - unless the van was nicked- as its going to be very easy to identify and track them down.
i can park my greasy oily 12 tonne tow truck complete with winch which i use as my towcar, next to your outfit wont mind that will you?
no, wouldnt worry me in the slightest.
arent people choosy about which part of a post they wish to use, why not edit out the bits that dont fit in with your post?the greasy truck is just a skit to make a point about how things can go (like the builder with the cement mixer see recent post)
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Right, now we seem to have sucessfully got rid of an Undesirable from our ranks, can all you politically correct types from the membership, please do something about getting rid of the bloody silly Pods, which have no possible place on a CC site,
they are not mobile, unlikely to be used by a member, take up valuable space on site, and whats more, make far less sense than our OPs Landrover. Before i said hypocrites, now i say bloody hypocrites. Just off to spray my campervan in Army Camoflage paint.
Oh yes, and going to get a few battle pennants and a Skull and crossbones flag. So i dont blend in.if you use camoflage paint nobody will see you,come to that if you go out how will you find your van?
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