£25 Annual WIFI Charge

charliethecoach
charliethecoach Forum Participant Posts: 4
edited June 2016 in Club Membership #1

Does the different WIFI charges cover you for all Caravan Club sites or just the one you are on when you pay the fee.

The site office is closed and my neighbour thinks it only covers the site you are on.

I am thinking of paying the £25 annual package as we will be out and about travelling to different areas all summer. Surely it cant be for just one site?

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2016 #2

    It's for the whole network, Charlie. Be aware, though, that a few sites don't have wifi and, where it does exist, the quality varies from good to rubbish. It doesn't cover AS or racecourse sites either.

  • charliethecoach
    charliethecoach Forum Participant Posts: 4
    edited June 2016 #3

    Thanks Tinwheeler.

    I will do my research in advance and onlty visit sites that have WIFI. I need it as I have to keep my eye on my business while I am away. 

  • Bakers2
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    edited June 2016 #4

    When it works its great - like all things.  We had it one year better on some sites than others, sometimes it involved wandering round the site to get any .  You can only use it in one device at a time and you MUST ensure you sign out/logout and ensure
    it happens before you close down can't remember why now

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2016 #5

    Thanks Tinwheeler.

    I will do my research in advance and onlty visit sites that have WIFI. I need it as I have to keep my eye on my business while I am away. 

    You're welcome, Charlie. The handbook and website should tell you all you need to know. Don't expect perfection and, in my experience, the wifi performance worsens in the evening as people come back to the site after a day out. 

  • IanH
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    edited June 2016 #6

    Yes, you must actually 'log out'. If it simply times out, and you try to log in, it tells you that the service is already being used and won't let you log in.

    It's rather primitive, but it sometimes works quite well.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2016 #7

    if you set your mobile as the primary device qand log on with that, then set the phone to act as a 'router' you can then link a laptop or another phone to it. We've only done this as a test and not sure if it slows down everything?

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited June 2016 #8

    if you set your mobile as the primary device qand log on with that, then set the phone to act as a 'router' you can then link a laptop or another phone to it. We've only done this as a test and not sure if it slows down everything?

    Don't you have to do that via Bluetooth? If you have a slow connection to start with it might slow it down even more. 

    David

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2016 #9

    if you set your mobile as the primary device qand log on with that, then set the phone to act as a 'router' you can then link a laptop or another phone to it. We've only done this as a test and not sure if it slows down everything?

    Don't you have to do that via Bluetooth? If you have a slow connection to start with it might slow it down even more. 

    David

    perhaps, but I think its set up its own little wifi network

  • SteveL
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    edited June 2016 #10

    I think much of the confusion that Charlie experienced is caused by very poor wording when you initially sign up and pay. I can't remember specifically what it said, but it did mention the site name, which tended to imply that was what you were paying for,
    rather than the whole network.

  • Kennine
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    edited June 2016 #11

    Sounds like this CC wifi system is strictly of the 20th century.

    Now that we are well into the 21st century we would have expected Air Angel to supply a modern Wifi infostructure commiserate with the demands of modern  web users.

    KCool

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2016 #12

    Sounds like this CC wifi system is strictly of the 20th century.

    Now that we are well into the 21st century we would have expected Air Angel to supply a modern Wifi infostructure commiserate with the demands of modern  web users.

    KCool

     

    A lot of us have had to commiserate about the wifi, K.Laughing

  • avondriver
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    edited June 2016 #13

    urban areas may be in the 21st century when it comes to telecoms but away from the suburban sprawl we still rely on bits of wet string (OK copper if we are lucky) strung over miles. We are just about in the fourt quarter of the 20th century.  Wifi is only
    as good as the chunk of infrastructure it's attached to. Sad to say we stay on sites in green fields away from it all. Silly old us.

  • jennyc
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    edited June 2016 #14

    if you set your mobile as the primary device qand log on with that, then set the phone to act as a 'router' you can then link a laptop or another phone to it. We've only done this as a test and not sure if it slows down everything?

    Don't you have to do that via Bluetooth? If you have a slow connection to start with it might slow it down even more. 

    David

    Write your comments here...

    On Apple systems, I can't talk about Android, 'tethering' means that you set a device to be a wireless 'hot spot' which makes it act as a WiFi router, not Bluetooth. We've done so on occasions in the past where we've either used 3/4G or a single access WiFi
    service on site. I can't say that we've found that tethering slows things down, though site congestion, particularly in the evening, has been known to seriously downgrade local WiFi performance.

  • brue
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    edited June 2016 #15

    urban areas may be in the 21st century when it comes to telecoms but away from the suburban sprawl we still rely on bits of wet string (OK copper if we are lucky) strung over miles. We are just about in the fourt quarter of the 20th century.  Wifi is only
    as good as the chunk of infrastructure it's attached to. Sad to say we stay on sites in green fields away from it all. Silly old us.

    I agree Avondriver but if you do need to be in contact with the outside world it's better to make your own arrangements using MiFi etc. This will give you reasonable access on most sites and you can use more than one device at the same time.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2016 #16

    We have had the annual package since inception,and find it adequate on most sites , if as laid out in the cc "code of practice" the problem as mentioned come when as is usual these days ,some think they can use it as they do at home without thinking that
    high speed tinternet is, despite all the different company's hype, not available in many rural areas  and where are most sites?,

  • SteveL
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    edited June 2016 #17

    Even on CC sites with reasonable WiFi, if away for an extended period, a MiFi or phone access to the internet is invaluable. I would not want to use online banking on the CC's unsecure network. It annoys me that there is no other way of paying the yearly
    £25 other than when on a CC site. I would be much happier arranging it from home on a more secure set up.

  • avondriver
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    edited June 2016 #18

    I agree Avondriver but if you do need to be in contact with the outside world it's better to make your own arrangements using MiFi etc. This will give you reasonable access on most sites and you can use more than one device at
    the same time.

    Write your comments here...i have found many sites have really poor mobile data reception too. Another 20th century feature of the non urban environmen. My tip is go prepared with as many modes of connection as possible and when all else fails find a coffee
    shop in the nearest town.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited June 2016 #19

     

    Don't you have to do that via Bluetooth? If you have a slow connection to start with it might slow it down even more. 

    David

    Write your comments here...

    On Apple systems, I can't talk about Android, 'tethering' means that you set a device to be a wireless 'hot spot' which makes it act as a WiFi router, not Bluetooth. We've done so on occasions in the past where we've either used 3/4G or a single access WiFi
    service on site. I can't say that we've found that tethering slows things down, though site congestion, particularly in the evening, has been known to seriously downgrade local WiFi performance.

    Not sure you can on Android but would be happy to hear from anyone who does it. Obviously I can use my mobile for tethering mobile data but I have not yet worked out how you can do the same when using the phone on WiFi. It can be done via Blue tooth but
    it seems something of a faff to set up. A little reseach suggests that it might be possible to share the WiFi connecting via a USB connection? The trouble is I only use the phone for such things whilst in the van so don't get a lot of practise at other times!

    David

  • peegeenine
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    edited June 2016 #20

    I tether my android phone and it works fine, so long as there is a good signal. I choose to tether via a cable thinking it maybe better but I could be wrong.

  • IanH
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    edited June 2016 #21

     

    Don't you have to do that via Bluetooth? If you have a slow connection to start with it might slow it down even more. 

    David

    Write your comments here...

    On Apple systems, I can't talk about Android, 'tethering' means that you set a device to be a wireless 'hot spot' which makes it act as a WiFi router, not Bluetooth. We've done so on occasions in the past where we've either used 3/4G or a single access WiFi
    service on site. I can't say that we've found that tethering slows things down, though site congestion, particularly in the evening, has been known to seriously downgrade local WiFi performance.

    Not sure you can on Android but would be happy to hear from anyone who does it. Obviously I can use my mobile for tethering mobile data but I have not yet worked out how you can do the same when using the phone on WiFi. It can be done via Blue tooth but
    it seems something of a faff to set up. A little reseach suggests that it might be possible to share the WiFi connecting via a USB connection? The trouble is I only use the phone for such things whilst in the van so don't get a lot of practise at other times!

    David

    I also didn't think that a phone could be used us a ' mobile hotpot' when it was connected to wifi (I'm talking about Apple here). I tried to do this on one site and it didn't work.

    It may be that your phone is actually connecting to 3G and then acting as a mobile hotspot.

    I just tried it at home - connected to the home wifi and turned on mobile hotspot and the phone reverted to 3G.

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2016 #22

    agree with Ian....

    ive never used the CC network (and dont intend to....) however, if one device can connect to a network by wifi, why cant the other (unless its years onld and doesnt have wifi) in its own right? why should any 'routing' be involved?

    using one device to 'route' a 3/4G signal to other devices (that might not have 3/4g connectivity in their own right) using a 'hotspot' (via bluetooth or wifi) is the accepted form of tethering as far as i am aware...

    i am currently connected to the Vodafone network with my Iphone yet typing this on my ipad, via my 'tethering' of my ipad to my iphone's 'hotspot', using bluetooth to link the devices.

    for some, its very difficult to understand the difference between a mobile signal and a wifi signal....and use one term when they mean the other....

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2016 #23

    well on my mobile phone in front of me there is an option in seetings called internet sharing, it has a further option for this to be done over wifi and bluetooth. Once turned on it transmits its own wifi signal for other devices to share data with, along
    with a wifi name (which i can see on the laptop wifi settings) and its own password. It is a wifi signal as it still works when i turn the mobile signal off

    i often use it to control my DSLRs through the phone Canon Conect app (its also sees when the camera is seeing) 

  • IanH
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    edited June 2016 #24

    Yes Corners....that's what we just said.

    Your phone receives a 3G / 4G signal and is capable of acting as a wifi hub/ hotspot / myfi / internet sharing device. Other devices can tben connect to it via wifi or bluetooth.

  • SteveL
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    edited June 2016 #25

    What mobile do you have corners? Just checked on my iPhone, and if I turn mobile data off, my use phone as a hotspot option, is no longer available. I don't seem to have another internet sharing option.

  • Cornersteady
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    Yes Corners....that's what we just said.

    Your phone receives a 3G / 4G signal and is capable of acting as a wifi hub/ hotspot / myfi / internet sharing device. Other devices can tben connect to it via wifi or bluetooth.

    still confused, with the mobile signal option turned off, I can turn internet sharing on and see the phone wifi name in the list of wifi signals on my laptop. The phone itself is conected to the home wifi. The phone acts as a wifi transmitter.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2016 #27

    What mobile do you have corners? Just checked on my iPhone, and if I turn mobile data off, my use phone as a hotspot option, is no longer available. I don't seem to have another internet sharing option.

    Its a very old Nokkia windows phone

  • IanH
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    edited June 2016 #28

    The phone will still appear in the lap top's list of wifi signals, as will any other wifi signal that you have previously connected to.

    But just because it's in the list, it doesn't mean the lap top can connect to it.

    My i-Pad still shows the CC wifi in the list, but I can't connect to it from home.

  • SteveL
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    The phone will still appear in the lap top's list of wifi signals, as will any other wifi signal that you have previously connected to.

    But just because it's in the list, it doesn't mean the lap top can connect to it.

    My i-Pad still shows the CC wifi in the list, but I can't connect to it from home.

    Mine does not Ian. It might stay there for a few minutes after it becomes unavailable, but as soon as it searches for new options it disappears. It is the same with my MiFi, it only shows when it is switched on, as soon as I turn it off it is rapidly removed from the list.

  • SteveL
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    What mobile do you have corners? Just checked on my iPhone, and if I turn mobile data off, my use phone as a hotspot option, is no longer available. I don't seem to have another internet sharing option.

    Its a very old Nokkia windows phone

    Perhaps the reason then corners. It seems as though your phone is acting like a router.

  • Cornersteady
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    The phone will still appear in the lap top's list of wifi signals, as will any other wifi signal that you have previously connected to.

    But just because it's in the list, it doesn't mean the lap top can connect to it.

    My i-Pad still shows the CC wifi in the list, but I can't connect to it from home.

    but the wifi name only appears on the list when the phone is turned on to internet sharing and disapers when the I switch internet sharing off. It must have a wifi signal otherwise my DSLR wouldn't be able to conect to it via te canon app, on my laptop its
    called display avialable networks, not every one ever conected to