£25 Annual WIFI Charge

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  • young thomas
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    edited June 2016 #32

    The phone will still appear in the lap top's list of wifi signals, as will any other wifi signal that you have previously connected to.

    But just because it's in the list, it doesn't mean the lap top can connect to it.

    My i-Pad still shows the CC wifi in the list, but I can't connect to it from home.

    Mine does not Ian. It might stay there for a few minutes after it becomes unavailable, but as soon as it searches for new options it disappears. It is the same with my MiFi, it only shows when it is switched on, as soon as I turn it off it is rapidly removed
    from the list.

    not sure my iphone does either, however my pal's android unit displays a list of scores of recently used (known) wifi spots with all of them listed as 'out of range'...

    a rescan might remove all these or not, depending on the design of the phone...

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2016 #33

    Been on to the nokkia/windows help pages and they confirm that internet sharing can use either a mobile internet signal or wifi

    If you’re worried about people abusing your data plan, don’t be. If you yourself are connected to a WiFi access point, they’re not eating into your data allowance.

    Read more at https://blogs.windows.com/devices/2012/09/25/internet-sharing-on-nokia-lumia/#dAZ1It8c3UloqckC.99

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2016 #34

    had a read and Corners has highlighted what appears to be a 'sharing' of a wifi signal.

    however, the devices have to be 'joined' by wifi (bluetooth doesnt appear to be an option) so therefore the device requiring another source for its data HAS to use wifi, so why cant it just connect to the same wifi source as the 'routing' device?

    if the sharing device didnt have wifi capability and used bluetooth to tether to the routing device i could see the usefulness, but as wifi seems mandatory to the connected device, why not just connect to the original source wifi signal?

    im not doubting the 'technology' but am struggling with the requirement....

    ps, ive just turned mobile data off of the iphone and the ipad tethering connection drops straight away.

  • jennyc
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    edited June 2016 #35

    Even on CC sites with reasonable WiFi, if away for an extended period, a MiFi or phone access to the internet is invaluable. I would not want to use online banking on the CC's unsecure network. It annoys me that there is no other way of paying the yearly £25 other than when on a CC site. I would be much happier arranging it from home on a more secure set up.

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    Banking apps use an encryption system called https, which meets US military specifications. So the security of using a banking App is the same at home, as it is in a hotel, via 3G, or CC WiFi.

  • SteveL
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    edited June 2016 #36

    Even on CC sites with reasonable WiFi, if away for an extended period, a MiFi or phone access to the internet is invaluable. I would not want to use online banking on the CC's unsecure network. It annoys me that there is no other way of paying the yearly £25 other than when on a CC site. I would be much happier arranging it from home on a more secure set up.

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    Banking apps use an encryption system called https, which meets US military specifications. So the security of using a banking App is the same at home, as it is in a hotel, via 3G, or CC WiFi.

    If the security is the same, why do all the banks I have on line accounts with warn about using unsecure connections? 

  • SteveL
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    edited June 2016 #37

    had a read and Corners has highlighted what appears to be a 'sharing' of a wifi signal.

    however, the devices have to be 'joined' by wifi (bluetooth doesnt appear to be an option) so therefore the device requiring another source for its data HAS to use wifi, so why cant it just connect to the same wifi source as the 'routing' device?

    if the sharing device didnt have wifi capability and used bluetooth to tether to the routing device i could see the usefulness, but as wifi seems mandatory to the connected device, why not just connect to the original source wifi signal?

    im not doubting the 'technology' but am struggling with the requirement....

    ps, ive just turned mobile data off of the iphone and the ipad tethering connection drops straight away.

    I assume what we are talking about is connecting more than one device to the CC WiFi by the back door, as it were. Otherwise the charge is another £25 if you want to have two devices connected simultaneously. Does not apply to CT though, you can have as many devices connected to that as you like, for free. Or I should probably say included in the fees, as somebody is paying.

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2016 #38

    .....sorry, Steve, i meant the technical requiremnt, not a sneaky customer's requirement....

    ie...if the 2nd device has wifi (required to tether to the windows phone) why cant it connect to the source wifi in its own right?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited June 2016 #39

    because you are given a login when you've paid, if you try to log in to the site wifi again with its it tells you you are adready loged in

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2016 #40

    ...Corners, i was thinking more why Microsoft had built the software that way, ie passing on a wifi signal when the 'receiving device' could as easily connect directly to the original wifi source as it could to the 'routed' signal..

    not really thinking about how to 'get around' the CC system...

    ...still, thinking about it, it may be that one device has a far more powerful wifi receiver....?Happy

  • jennyc
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    edited June 2016 #41

     

    If the security is the same, why do all the banks I have on line accounts with warn about using unsecure connections? 

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    The security risk that they are referring to is the use of computers which are available to other people, who may have installed keyboard loggers etc to capture your input, including passwords before the message is encrypted. If your home computer, laptop
    etc has been hacked and a 'Trojan' installed, then that too is vulnerable to insecurity. But if your hardware is secure at home, then it's going to be similarly secure in your van. A weakness that may be exploited is the use of a wireless keyboard, where once
    again keystrokes can be monitored - a consideration when using auxiliary keyboards on pads.

  • brue
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    edited June 2016 #42

    Although I don't use CC wi-fi except for free access to their own website we've been told on here their wi-fi is secure for banking.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited June 2016 #43

    When you are away from home for more than a couple of weeks its almost essential to have access to your internet banking. In addition to what JennyC has said its also incumbent on those using computers to access banking to make sure they have proper levels
    of security software installed and up to date. Some banks, Natwest being one, even offer a second layer of security which can be down loaded for free.

    David

  • Fysherman
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    edited June 2016 #44

    Personally, I would not be comfortable using any wi fi the public can access for banking unless I had first set up a VPN (Virtual Private Network) Only at home with my own router that I have secured with proper encription would I feel safe.

    You are safer with a direct mobile data link on a smartphone and a banking app as they both use encripted transmissions and different technology.