Auto gearbox are the best
i love towing with my mercedes with a auto gear box i think its a lot better than towing with a manual box
what do others think
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I like to change gears it keeps me awake on long journeys, Auto's are for bad drivers & lazy folk(joke) that should get folk interested KA
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Some of us like to be pushed a bit 3 pedals 2 legs. It is a bit strange to auto boxers but there's evolution in motion
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ALL cars should just have 2 pedals ..... one for each foot
Haven't had one like that since I was four years old.
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Some of us like to be pushed a bit 3 pedals 2 legs. It is a bit strange to auto boxers but there's evolution in motion
it must be wonderful being in control sat on a virtually motionless motorway/etc up ... down .... up .... down with your left leg I
can see no benefit of 3 pedals in today's busy roads ...... manual box evolved into autos0 -
Some of us like to be pushed a bit 3 pedals 2 legs. It is a bit strange to auto boxers but there's evolution in motion
Rocky, you haven't lived until you've experienced a good auto box. The odd adjustment via the flappy paddles and meanwhile the cruise control takes care of the speed. The leaves you both feet free to do what you will with.
The open road is a dream and heavy traffic only means a bit of braking and accelerating. It's the future! Try it, Mucker.
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.....Rocky, you haven't lived until you've experienced a good auto box. The odd adjustment via the flappy paddles and ....
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There are 4 autos in our house, 2 flappy paddle automated manuals (Smarts) & two 'proper' torque converter autos (Shitroen & Merc). Though the Smarts are great on the open road withtheir flappy paddles, the other two are nicer to drive in AUTO, even though
the Shitroen has a manual option ... the Merc doesn't0 -
ALL cars should just have 2 pedals ..... one for each foot
Haven't had one like that since I was four years old.
Cyber, after 40 years you should give it a try! Got my first auto three years ago, loved it from the off and would not change-no pun intended.
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Never tried an auto box. For commercial fleets they have the advantage of levelling up the worse drivers but good drivers can do better. From what I understand is auto boxes are easier on the drive train but are heavier on fuel for a good driver.
My late father in law did prove this to me. With a manual he was terrible always in the wrong gear and hating his driving. With an auto he became far more relaxed and his driving was far safer.
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Some of us like to be pushed a bit 3 pedals 2 legs. It is a bit strange to auto boxers but there's evolution in motion
it must be wonderful being in control sat on a virtually motionless motorway/etc up ... down .... up .... down with your left leg I
can see no benefit of 3 pedals in today's busy roads ...... manual box evolved into autosAutobox created for the 'hard of co-ordination' some of us relish the challenge of being in control using the brain as well as 2 feet. Hand/3 pedals/2 feet-it ain't rocket science MM. . . .For some of us.
No worries, you do your thing I applaud you for opting out.0 -
Some of us like to be pushed a bit 3 pedals 2 legs. It is a bit strange to auto boxers but there's evolution in motion
Rocky, you haven't lived until you've experienced a good auto box. The odd adjustment via the flappy paddles and meanwhile the cruise control takes care of the speed. The leaves you both feet free to do what you will with.
The open road is a dream and heavy traffic only means a bit of braking and accelerating. It's the future! Try it, Mucker.
I will do when my co-ordination fails me, when the brain can't cope with operating left hand, left foot & right foot in unison
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Some of us like to be pushed a bit 3 pedals 2 legs. It is a bit strange to auto boxers but there's evolution in motion
Rocky, you haven't lived until you've experienced a good auto box. The odd adjustment via the flappy paddles and meanwhile the cruise control takes care of the speed. The leaves you both feet free to do what you will with.
The open road is a dream and heavy traffic only means a bit of braking and accelerating. It's the future! Try it, Mucker.
I will do when my co-ordination fails me, when the brain can't cope with operating left hand, left foot & right foot in unison
Or when your knees give trouble......
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.....Rocky, you haven't lived until you've experienced a good auto box. The odd adjustment via the flappy paddles and ....
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There are 4 autos in our house, 2 flappy paddle automated manuals (Smarts) & two 'proper' torque converter autos (Shitroen & Merc). Though the Smarts are great on the open road withtheir flappy paddles, the other two are nicer to drive in AUTO, even though
the Shitroen has a manual option ... the Merc doesn'tUntil very recently, MM, I would have agreed with you that TQ autos are the best. I've said do on here before but I've recently been won over by a Lineartronic CVT box - chain driven. It truly is the smoothest auto I've ever experienced. Manual option and
flappy paddles complete the set up.0 -
Autobox created for the 'hard of co-ordination' some of us relish the challenge of being in control using the brain as well as 2 feet.
Rather disingenuous "Rocky" to many of us that are far from lacking in our manual driving coordination skills, but keep them for our sports driving though take advantage of the excellence of modern automatics for towing. Then there are few 8 plus speeder manual boxes available in vehicles likely to be tasked with towing, if we felt a need to exerciser our skills with a box and clutch whilst towing.
Me I will keep to a Disco 4 for towing and a Golf 6 speeder manual for playing.
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Autobox created for the 'hard of co-ordination' some of us relish the challenge of being in control using the brain as well as 2 feet.
Rather disingenuous "Rocky" to many of us that are far from lacking in our manual driving coordination skills, but keep them for our sports driving though take advantage of the excellence of modern automatics for towing. Then there are few
8 plus speeder manual boxes available in vehicles likely to be tasked with towing, if we felt a need to exerciser our skills with a box and clutch whilst towing.Me I will keep to a Disco 4 for towing and a Golf 6 speeder manual for playing.
Ocsid, I am being very candid. I like gears, I like grown up driving I don't want an Auto-if I did I'd get one
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Some of us like to be pushed a bit 3 pedals 2 legs. It is a bit strange to auto boxers but there's evolution in motion
Rocky, you haven't lived until you've experienced a good auto box. The odd adjustment via the flappy paddles and meanwhile the cruise control takes care of the speed. The leaves you both feet free to do what you will with.
The open road is a dream and heavy traffic only means a bit of braking and accelerating. It's the future! Try it, Mucker.
I will do when my co-ordination fails me, when the brain can't cope with operating left hand, left foot & right foot in unison
Or when your knees give trouble......
Don't you need knees with an Auto?, is it automatic like a 'twist & go', no legs involved.
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Well i guess it just depends on how much input you want, all my cars are autos & have been for some years, in traffic they are great especially as you get older. I often however when towing use the tip tronic box, I like to be in control and I find I can
drive with greater economy and can get better performance especially as I can see the terrain in front so can judge better when to change gear. Yes you can get lazy with an auto but its nice to have the choice.0 -
Some of us like to be pushed a bit 3 pedals 2 legs. It is a bit strange to auto boxers but there's evolution in motion
Rocky, you haven't lived until you've experienced a good auto box. The odd adjustment via the flappy paddles and meanwhile the cruise control takes care of the speed. The leaves you both feet free to do what you will with.
The open road is a dream and heavy traffic only means a bit of braking and accelerating. It's the future! Try it, Mucker.
I will do when my co-ordination fails me, when the brain can't cope with operating left hand, left foot & right foot in unison
Or when your knees give trouble......
Don't you need knees with an Auto?, is it automatic like a 'twist & go', no legs involved.
Nearly, Rocky. Once the cruise is on I can unscrew my legs until I need to brake.
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Auto box, cruise control, auto wipers, auto lights (for the Swiss tunnels). Why make life difficult? Towing a caravan is hard enough without all the other distractions.
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We are not far away from the day when all vehicles will be hybrid or fully electric. Advances in batery technology will see ranges of 500 miles on a charge and rapid refuelling. My point here is that these vehicles only have 2 pedals. Manuals will be consigned
to museum pieces as are crash gearboxes now.0 -
Just waiting to take delivery of my first automatic after 50+yrs with a manual. Just hope I enjoy it as much.
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Just waiting to take delivery of my first automatic after 50+yrs with a manual. Just hope I enjoy it as much.
I'm sure you will, Nellie. I'm enjoying mine with its auto electronic this, that and everything. I'm sure there's a button somewhere for automatically making tea.
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Well this is one can of worms well and truly opened!!
In my brief experienced of towing, the auto box has been a great help, its bad enough trying to make sure your driving as safely as possible, looking in mirrors every 15 seconds( I have 5 now!) without thinking about if I`m in the right gear for this corner,
or this hill. And when you`ve got thru all the twistys you can just take a sigh and relax on a bit of straight road.......... and if you want to play, you can use the box like a manual anyway. it helped when I was running out of steam up an incline, I just
dropped it down a notch and away we went ! brilliant!!,And also with an auto you can
roll cigerettes
pour coffee
Eat a Ginsters pastie
drink coffee
use your phone
Whilst your parked of course!
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Oh, no! If you're going to have a pasty make sure it's a decent one.
Going downhill the manual mode is particularly useful for keeping your speed down via engine braking. We see many a cvan rollover in these parts on bends at the bottom of hills. They come downhill too fast and the bend catches em out.
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Autobox created for the 'hard of co-ordination' some of us relish the challenge of being in control using the brain as well as 2 feet. Hand/3 pedals/2 feet-it ain't rocket science MM. . . .For some of us.
No worries, you do your thing I applaud you for opting out.hard of co-ordination ..... I can if I wish too, as you say it ain't rocket science ... even you manage ....
, but I saw the light nearly 30 yrs and progressed to 2 pedals - my towcar isn't available with a manual box0 -
Autobox created for the 'hard of co-ordination' some of us relish the challenge of being in control using the brain as well as 2 feet. Hand/3 pedals/2 feet-it ain't rocket science MM. . . .For some of us.
No worries, you do your thing I applaud you for opting out.hard of co-ordination ..... I can if I wish too, as you say it ain't rocket science ...
even you manage .... , but I saw the light nearly 30 yrs and progressed to 2 pedals - my towcar isn't available with
a manual box0