Parallel Parking

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  • volvoman9
    volvoman9 Forum Participant Posts: 1,053
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    edited February 2016 #32

    Anybody that cannot double declutch should not be driving. Anybody that needs power steering should not be driving. Radial tyres? What was wrong with my old John Bull Crossply remoulds? A HEATER! THAT IS FOR SOFTIES! Good grief, what will they think of next?
    Maps that show you where to go as you drive? Anybody that needs one of those should not be driving.

    Utter claptrap.

    v9

  • Danny and Karen
    Danny and Karen Forum Participant Posts: 67
    edited February 2016 #33

    great piece of technology but.....

    the main reason folk give when struggling with parallel parking is 'i dont know which way to turn the wheel.....'

    this is the very thing that probably worries the life out of those who 'do know which way to turn the wheel....'

    lets hope the former group are OK with this 'steering' technique when travelling in a forward direction....Undecided

    Same problem some people have when driving a radio controled car towards themselves.



    It's not a problem, but some people can do it naturally, some have to learn how to do it.  

  • young thomas
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    edited February 2016 #34

    great piece of technology but.....

    the main reason folk give when struggling with parallel parking is 'i dont know which way to turn the wheel.....'

    this is the very thing that probably worries the life out of those who 'do know which way to turn the wheel....'

    lets hope the former group are OK with this 'steering' technique when travelling in a forward direction....Undecided

    Same problem some people have when driving a radio controled car towards themselves.



    It's not a problem, but some people can do it naturally, some have to learn how to do it.  

    ....and some, despite passing a driving test, really dont have a clue why they have to turn the wheel 'that way'....Sad

  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2016 #35

    Anybody that cannot double declutch should not be driving. Anybody that needs power steering should not be driving. Radial tyres? What was wrong with my old John Bull Crossply remoulds? A HEATER! THAT IS FOR SOFTIES! Good grief, what will they think of next?
    Maps that show you where to go as you drive? Anybody that needs one of those should not be driving.

    Utter claptrap.

    v9

    it was a joke ....... Wink

  • ABM
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    edited February 2016 #36

    Indeed  it  is  John,  so  never  the  vehicle  of  choice  for  ladies  in  Pencil  type  skirts,  unless  they  were  looking  for  a "Gentleman"  
    Wink

    But some had an electric start ..... dynastart, hence the abilty to start them up in reverse to give reverse gearS.

    Well  I'll  go  back  into  the  Majestic  Dance  Hall  then,  if  my  talents  ain't  wanted,  Sniff,  snivel,  sob !

  • rayjsj
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    edited February 2016 #37

    Anyone remember BMW  Isetta and Heinkel  Bubblecars  ? 2-stroke  engines, front opened as a door, and no reverse gear....... story was that there were hundreds of owners in their garages, pulled up to rear wall and unable to get out. Who knows some may still
    be there.? Messerscmitts were better, as they had an opening hood,  so you could bail out, like an aeroplane.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2016 #38

     .... Messerscmitts were better, as they had an opening hood,  so you could bail out, like an aeroplane.

    Have you seen how much they're going for these days? Surprised

  • Paul Rainbow
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    edited February 2016 #39

    Anybody that cannot double declutch should not be driving. Anybody that needs power steering should not be driving. Radial tyres? What was wrong with my old John Bull Crossply remoulds? A HEATER! THAT IS FOR SOFTIES! Good grief, what will they think of next?
    Maps that show you where to go as you drive? Anybody that needs one of those should not be driving.

    Utter claptrap.

    v9

    I hope you did not seriously believe that?! Mollys Mum is right, it was a joke, clearly a bit too subtle for you! My point is progress has made driving easier, more efficient, and safer. Why not have a car that can park itself? And be automatic? Great idea
    I think. Yes it takes the skill away, but heck, that is progress I am afraid and it is humans that tend to be the weak link. Ask a pilot. In fact, many a time was I thought a self-drive car would be a Godsend.

    However, to get back into my (now old-hat) Roadster is a real blast. The 1964 MGB I had before had no heater, no PAS, no SAT NAV, no syncro on 1st and 2nd, and it was great fun. But living everyday with a car means making life as easy as possible, so my
    everyday car is my Santa Fe. With a heater.

  • IanBHawkes
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    edited February 2016 #40

    My point is progress has made driving easier, more efficient, and safer. Why not have a car that can park itself? And be automatic? Great idea I think. Yes it takes the skill away, but heck, that is progress I am afraid 

    Sadly, the more safety gadgets on a car the less safe the drivers are, because they let the cars do the thinking for them. So, t my that is not progress!

  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2016 #41

    My point is progress has made driving easier, more efficient, and safer. Why not have a car that can park itself? And be automatic? Great idea I think. Yes it takes the skill away, but heck, that is progress I am afraid 

    Sadly, the more safety gadgets on a car the less safe the drivers are, because they let the cars do the thinking for them. So, t my that is not progress!

    But on the whole, when ABS ESP EBA etc etc take over from the weakest link ie the nut holding the wheel ..... cars are safer now than they ever were

  • ocsid
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    edited February 2016 #42

    My point is progress has made driving easier, more efficient, and safer. Why not have a car that can park itself? And be automatic? Great idea I think. Yes it takes the skill away, but heck, that is progress I am afraid 

    Sadly, the more safety gadgets on a car the less safe the drivers are, because they let the cars do the thinking for them. So, t my that is not progress!

    IMO that assertion is missing the point, the application of technology makes the vehicle much safer, be it in the hands of a skilled or unskilled driver; thats good news as there are plenty of the latter about. Park assist whilst not going to save much personal injury will on my experience of it, save a few expensive or pride hitting scuffs; I would like to think those parking and leaving parking spaces each side of me are deploying it.

    As an aside why do we so often find those with the smallest vehicles on the road struggle the most to park in a single bay; is it because many of those buying them know they are unable to park?

  • Paul Rainbow
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    edited February 2016 #43

    As an aside why do we so often find those with the smallest vehicles on the road struggle the most to park in a single bay; is it because many of those buying them know they are unable to park?

    What do you reckon, Mollys Mum, can you park yours? Shall we tell him?!


  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2016 #44

    As an aside why do we so often find those with the smallest vehicles on the road struggle the most to park in a single bay; is it because many of those buying them know they are unable to park?

    What do you reckon, Mollys Mum, can you park yours? Shall we tell him?!


    never had a problem parking ...... I do it like this! Cool click here

  • ocsid
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    edited February 2016 #45

    As an aside why do we so often find those with the smallest vehicles on the road struggle the most to park in a single bay; is it because many of those buying them know they are unable to park?

    What do you reckon, Mollys Mum, can you park yours? Shall we tell him?!

    never had a problem parking ...... I do it like this! Cool click here

    Our roads around here together with our supermarket car parks have not the required room, pre parking, to habitually do that!

  • ABM
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    edited February 2016 #46

    And  he's  facing  the  wrong  way  !

  • ADP1963
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    edited February 2016 #47

    As an aside why do we so often find those with the smallest vehicles on the road struggle the most to park in a single bay; is it because many of those buying them know they are unable to park?

    What do you reckon, Mollys Mum, can you park yours? Shall we tell him?!


    never had a problem parking ...... I do it like this! Cool click here

    Write your comments here...Molly this does look a bit like you in photo 3 -3rd from the left,back row.............and your still driving like that!.  Winking

  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2016 #48

    As an aside why do we so often find those with the smallest vehicles on the road struggle the most to park in a single bay; is it because many of those buying them know they are unable to park?

    What do you reckon, Mollys Mum, can you park yours? Shall we tell him?!


    never had a problem parking ...... I do it like this! Cool click
    here

    Write your comments here...Molly this does look a bit like you in photo 3 -3rd from the left,back row.............and your still driving like that!.  Winking

    Wink

  • cyberyacht
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    edited February 2016 #49

    How do you get the boot open to put your shopping in?

  • martindf3
    martindf3 Forum Participant Posts: 65
    edited February 2016 #50

    I still don't beleive that 'park assist' will get you into a slot as well as a driver who knows how to do it.

    Believe what you like! They are superb and do exactly what is said on the can so to speak. And for backing ito a space as well . The only problem is that they are a little slow if you are doing it in heavy traffic .

  • martindf3
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    edited February 2016 #51

    Anybody that cannot double declutch should not be driving. Anybody that needs power steering should not be driving. Radial tyres? What was wrong with my old John Bull Crossply remoulds? A HEATER! THAT IS FOR SOFTIES! Good grief, what will they think of next?
    Maps that show you where to go as you drive? Anybody that needs one of those should not be driving.

    Write your comments here...I had a go last weekend in a 1957Austin A35 saloon . In the 70's they were bad and they still are , Bakes diabolical, hard with zero feel,  steering ,loads of feel but like driving a speedboat at slow speed. Suspension ---- checked
    the shockers they were there, in principal anyway . No synchro on first ,not much on any other come to that nececitating the need for double de clutching and a blip to change down  A lot of "fun" at 20mph . I love the technology ,the only annoying thing is
    2015 Tiguan has a handbrake that defies all logic to get it off without putting seatbelt on ,like when reversing caravan and jumping in and out at gates on site ect

  • Supertractorman
    Supertractorman Forum Participant Posts: 79
    edited February 2016 #52

    Think the Club could make some money developing a Park Assist to reverse a caravan right to the little post with no hands on the wheel.

    David

     

  • ABM
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    edited February 2016 #53

    Anybody that cannot double declutch should not be driving.

    . No synchro on first ,not much on any other come to that nececitating the need for double de clutching and a blip to change down

    Don't  knock  it,  Martin,  that  ability  got  me  home  when  the  clutch  cable  on  my  Fiat  128/3P broke  miles  &  miles  from  home !!  A  little  rough  from  a  standing  start  I  grant  you,  but  hardly  a  crunch or crash  after  that  !!Laughing

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  • Navigateur
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    edited February 2016 #55

    Think the Club could make some money developing a Park Assist to reverse a caravan right to the little post with no hands on the wheel.

     

    It already exists.  It is called a "motor mover".

  • ADP1963
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    edited February 2016 #56

    Anybody that cannot double declutch should not be driving.

    . No synchro on first ,not much on any other come to that nececitating the need for double de clutching and a blip to change down

    Don't  knock  it,  Martin,  that  ability  got  me  home  when  the  clutch  cable  on  my  Fiat  128/3P broke  miles  &  miles  from  home !!  A  little  rough  from  a  standing  start  I  grant  you,  but  hardly  a  crunch or crash  after  that  !!Laughing

    Write your comments here...you would to have to double de clutch on the  old lorry in the early 50/60s. Also possible to change gear on a car without using the clutch just by listening to engine revs.

  • ABM
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    edited February 2016 #57

    And  That  was  the  method  I  used,  ADP1963 !! Wink

  • ABM
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    edited February 2016 #58

    Incidentally,  driving  using  only  brakes  &  accelerator  and  I  just  could  NOT  stop  trying  to  use  the  utterly  useless  clutch  foot  !!

  • ADP1963
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    edited February 2016 #59

    Incidentally,  driving  using  only  brakes  &  accelerator  and  I  just  could  NOT  stop  trying  to  use  the  utterly  useless  clutch  foot  !!

    Write your comments here...I could suggest sitting on your left leg Embarassed but I guess like me that would take a bit of doing at
    our age. Winking. Don't forget Kington Show ,Powys , I think it is in August.Smile

  • IanBHawkes
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    edited February 2016 #60

    Anybody that cannot double declutch should not be driving.

    . No synchro on first ,not much on any other come to that nececitating the need for double de clutching and a blip to change down

    Don't  knock  it,  Martin,  that  ability  got  me  home  when  the  clutch  cable  on  my  Fiat  128/3P broke  miles  &  miles  from  home !!  A  little  rough  from  a  standing  start  I  grant  you,  but  hardly  a  crunch or crash  after  that  !!Laughing

    Now, ask someone who has passed their test in the last 20 years to double de clutch and you will have someone with a blank expression on their face!

  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2016 #61

    ....

    Now, ask someone who has passed their test in the last 20 years to double de clutch and you will have someone with a blank expression on their face!

    Why would they unles they'd bought themselves an old Foden wagon or some other old vehicle (the Foden was a guess), we have synchro gearboxes now on all gears. It'd be like asking someone from today to use a slide rule or Otis King ........ we now have calculators.
    I recently tried to logs & antilog tables ....... I very quickly gave up ..... no need