Supermarket fuel
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supermarket fuel is rubbish, a few of us have proved it, try filling up at the supermarket for a few months, then get branded fuel, see the extra 20 m.p.g.
Strongly recommend that you read "ChemicalJaspers" post on page two of this thread !!
I agree with you ABM!
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Dakota, I've actually got a new specially imported non GMO, gluten free additive made based on secret US military formula that has been hidden from the public in a 'big oil' conspiracy, it's guaranteed to get you an extra 30mpg and clean your engine and
gearbox and differential! Its only 35 pounds a month, but consider the offset savings!Best thing is I can email it to you immediately on receipt of your payment!
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supermarket fuel is rubbish, a few of us have proved it, try filling up at the supermarket for a few months, then get branded fuel, see the extra 20 m.p.g.
Strongly recommend that you read "ChemicalJaspers" post on page two of this thread !!
I agree with you ABM!
I've used supermarket fuel 99% of the time, for the last, well I can't remember, but certainly 10 - 15 years and never had any problems with either the towcar or the other one. Its cheaper so does that negate the extra 20mpg?
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Dakota, I've actually got a new specially imported non GMO, gluten free additive made based on secret US military formula that has been hidden from the public in a 'big oil' conspiracy, it's guaranteed to get you an extra 30mpg and clean your engine and
gearbox and differential! Its only 35 pounds a month, but consider the offset savings!Best thing is I can email it to you immediately on receipt of your payment!
Hope it doesnt involve wearing Lycra == I, for one, don't have the figure for that
!!
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Only time I don't use supermarket fuel is if it's cheaper elsewhere.Done that for last 30 odd years with 2 motorcaravans and 4 cars without problems.Have used a Broquet in some of them and never failed exhaust emisions or had other problems apart from egr
valve on latest car but not caused by fuel.Mike
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I have tried checking the mpg of both suoermarket fuel and branded. The answer was there was very little if anything in it and the best results were from Tesco but it could be down to traffic conditions as you never get two trips exactly the same.
At the end of the day the fuel in any area all comes from the same tanks at the same refinery and the only differnce is a few additives the driver puts in. The idea that this could give you anything other than a modest difference is simply not feasible as
the amount of energy a gallon of fuel can produce is fixed. The additives cannot achieve more than the laws of nature.0 -
Given that something like this would be like a red rag to a bull for a Watchdog type programme. I can only assume I missed it. Or much more likely, there is no significant difference. In any event as the branded fuels are 20 to 30p more expensive per gallon, they would have to return 2 mpg more, just to break even.
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Wildwood is right there is little, or no difference
If there is a difference ,it is most likely all in the motorist mind ,and not the car
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Put money on it being the erg valve crudding up happened to my 2007 Shogun, had it cleaned by my mechanic told to use Shell had no more problems. Once a month run it on V power with full tank.
....But Shell don't even make fuel in the UK, so you have not bought anything made by Shell, other than a teaspoon full of Shell additive once a month!
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I love this post, having had problems with a blocked diesel filter the dealer will roll out the supermarket fuel excuse not the fact the filter housing needed to be changed under warranty and try to charge you £80 to change the filter.
Rearly used supermarket fuel because the Esso filling station is just around the corner from me, and the ten mile round trip to the nearest supermarket filling station is not worth the effort
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BP have a new version of Ultimate on the forecourt, their claim is an extra 21 miles per tank (based on about 520` per diesel and 390`per petrol car). With an older car you have to fill with Ultimate for 6200` before you might achieve the cleaning to obtain
the extra mileage. The article is in the Daily Telegraph Car Section and the figures are from memory.0 -
I love this post, having had problems with a blocked diesel filter the dealer will roll out the supermarket fuel excuse not the fact the filter housing needed to be changed under warranty and try to charge you £80 to change the filter.
Rearly used supermarket fuel because the Esso filling station is just around the corner from me, and the ten mile round trip to the nearest supermarket filling station is not worth the effort
As all brands get their fuel from the same refineries dirt in the fuel should not be related to any particular brand. To me any dirt has to either be from the tanker or the filling station tanks which would be due to the drivers and managers standards or
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I've had them vacuuming the floor of one of the "Bio"tanks today, to make sure it was clean before it was returned to service.....they did it with a Henry Hoover of all things!
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I've had them vacuuming the floor of one of the "Bio"tanks today, to make sure it was clean before it was returned to service.....they did it with a Henry Hoover of all things!
Write your comments here...I always used supermarket fuel in a Vauxhall Cavalier and had these loss of power moments regularly.I had new turbo injectors, and Vauxhall had the car back and in the end it was a fault on a circuit board in one of the on board
computers they claimed Damned annoying when towing on my own during the night to be kept at 20mph and no further power available.. During the months of hassle I spoke to a colleague who was a tanker driver at Kingsbury depot and he told me to avoid supermarket
fuel it was a different standard.He knew this because one day he accidentally filled his tanker for a supermarket from the incorrect tank on site and had to have the tank emptied and flushed as they couldnot deliver because it was a different quality.There
was also a programme with Ed Doolan on WM Radio which featured this issue for many weeks.The argument was never solved but there seemed to be more difficulties with supermarket fuel than those that had used named garages....I after all my issues started again
one day when I was caught short on fuel and had to use a supermarket brand and guess what, all the loss of power came back.....I then changed my car........The Xtrail is far better and I use branded petrol garages. Incidentally I always had a better miles
/gallon ratio on branded fuel than on supermarket fuel, I was told it was due to Sulphur content, how true I do not know? SG20 -
Hi sailorgirl, well we currently only have one consumer diesel tank and all the diesel, whether it is going to supermarkets or the brands gets loaded into road tankers from that tank, so the basic fuel is IDENTICAL!. Only if you buy the upgraded version, will you be getting a brand specific additive. All BS EN 590 diesel is low sulphur, and has been for many years. Lubricity chemicals are added during blending and the lubricity of low sulphur fuel is higher than the old high sulphur fuel.
If he loaded from the wrong rack, it may be that it had brand additives... but certainly not lower quality.
(Also turbos don't have injectors, as far as I am aware)
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.I always used supermarket fuel in a Vauxhall Cavalier and had these loss of power moments regularly.I had new turbo injectors, and Vauxhall had the car back and in the end it was a fault on a circuit board in one of the on board computers they claimed ...
I think that the dealer you used was diagnosing by replacement ....
I've had a string of Vauxhalls, all were filled with supermarket fuel as are my Smart & diseasal Merc and SWMBO's Shitroen ... Ah! maybe the Shitroen isn't perhaps a good example .....
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I've had a Cavalier for 4.5 years, and two xtrails last one with a DPF both over 9 years and had zero problems with supermarket fuel.
Supermarket fuel is a easy target for all manner of people to blame for other problems, i only do 7K miles a year so mainly short runs, yet never had a issue on cheap fuel.
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I love this post, having had problems with a blocked diesel filter the dealer will roll out the supermarket fuel excuse not the fact the filter housing needed to be changed under warranty and try to charge you £80 to change the filter.
Rearly used supermarket fuel because the Esso filling station is just around the corner from me, and the ten mile round trip to the nearest supermarket filling station is not worth the effort
As all brands get their fuel from the same refineries dirt in the fuel should not be related to any particular brand. To me any dirt has to either be from the tanker or the filling station tanks which would be due to the drivers and managers standards or lack of th
it had nothing to do with dirty fuel it was the fact that Huyndi/Kia 1.7 diesel filters could not handle waxing in low temperatures and a housing with a heater had to be fitted, cost cutting for the UK market.
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.it had nothing to do with dirty fuel it was the fact that Huyndi/Kia 1.7 diesel filters could not handle waxing in low temperatures and a housing with a heater had to be fitted, cost cutting for the UK market.
Does diesel wax anymore? I've had a few diseasals over the past few years & never had any problems, even over the winter a few years ago when it stayed at minus brass monkies for weeks.
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There is certainly a summer spec and a winter spec for diesel. The winter spec has less water in (classed as the haze point). As the temperature reduces, the water comes out of the fuel and It goes hazy.
If you are filling a Jerry can with diesel, do it in the winter!
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The car went into limp mode on a freezing day, not nice in the outside lane of the motorway. The filter had been changed at the last service but the fault code showed a blocked filter. Kia had started to fit the new filter houseing with the heater in too
new cars, but had no intention of a recall but retro fitings on cars with the problem.It was a known problem in the 2013 14 winter.
http://www.rac.co.uk/press-centre/press-releases/diesel-biofuel-content-suspected-cause-of-unexpect
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The Hy/kia cars also had a recall for some models as the inner lining on the cars fuel tank was falling off and blocking the fuel supply.
And this is the crux. Cars break down. A lot of cars (not saying that the case here, but I bet it is in a lot of "I heard about" stories) where the cars haven't been well-maintained with Fuel Filter replacements etc.
But since many people buy supermarket fuel & many people have problems, its very easy to draw conclusions
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Since buying my towcar @ 13K miles, I've now completed a further 18K miles entirely on supermarket fuel apart from one fill-up in Scotland with no ill effects.
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The Hy/kia cars also had a recall for some models as the inner lining on the cars fuel tank was falling off and blocking the fuel supply.
And this is the crux. Cars break down. A lot of cars (not saying that the case here, but I bet it is in a lot of "I heard about" stories) where the cars haven't been well-maintained with Fuel Filter replacements etc.
But since many people buy supermarket fuel & many people have problems, its very easy to draw conclusions
My car was less than a year old but had covered over 20000 miles, kept it another year then got rid of it.
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no supermarket fuel for me i have seen what it can do only b/p or shell bassett.
ACTUALLY, no, no you have not! - neither bp nor Shell manufacture fuel in the UK. Those stations buy the same fuel as the supermarkets from the local refinery or depot!0
