Murvi Pimento or morello

Mr Sambambles
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edited January 2016 in Motorhomes #1

Just started to look for a quality panel van conversion. I see Murvi now have an option to use the new Ford Transit base. Has anyone any experience with either Murvi as a company or the new transit base vehicle. Not made up our minds as to 5.5m or 6m. Is
the difference in length noticible when driving and parking. Are there any other converter's using the new Ford Transit. Your help and experience would be very much appreciated. 

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  • rayjsj
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    edited January 2016 #2

    Just started to look for a quality panel van conversion. I see Murvi now have an option to use the new Ford Transit base. Has anyone any experience with either Murvi as a company or the new transit base vehicle. Not made up our minds as to 5.5m or 6m. Is
    the difference in length noticible when driving and parking. Are there any other converter's using the new Ford Transit. Your help and experience would be very much appreciated. 

    Write your comments here...I too have been looking at short conversions onto Ford Transit chassis, but must have a fitted toilet cassette.Apart from Murvi,  Devon do one called a firefly, Well house leisure do one called a terrier,  the terrier needs to
    be the XL high top,  to get the fitted loo.  Don't  know of any others unless others can help ?  

    Murvi are a very well respected company,who have been converting for many years.My only hesitation is that almost everything fitted is an extra, and the final price for a usable van works out far more expensive than a lot of competitors.But for the price
    you get a personalised van, and good afterservice. And good residuals. Hmm. 

  • Mr Sambambles
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    edited January 2016 #3

    Thanks for that rayjsj. Yes that was something I noticed last night. Everything is an extra. However I believe ( but don't know yet ) that the quality of fittings and equipment is a lot better than the Devon. I have not looked at the others you mention and
    thank you for that. Have you had any thoughts on the length? We will be of to NEC in Feb so hopefully will be able to do better comparison s there. 

  • tigerfish
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    edited January 2016 #4

    have been considering making the change myself and as someone who like you appreciates quality I have been speaking to owners of quality vans that I have seen.

    Of them the only one that has unique and rock solid owner support is Murvi.  Owners seem to insist that they would not now consider any other make.  The interesting thing is that you never seem to be able to find a second hand one. They all seem to be passed
    on by their owners to someone else in a private deal!

    TF

  • rayjsj
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    edited January 2016 #5

    I would be looking to downsize from a 7.6 metre coach built,  and would be using the Transit mainly as a day van, and our only vehicle, so, really under 6 metres.  I agree that the quality of Devons furniture is probably not as good as the Murvi, but they are quite a bit cheaper,and better equipped  as standard. I have yet to see a Wellhouse  Terrier in the flesh,so to say. The majority on their website look a bit boy racer-ish and not to our liking at all, and we don't  want a pop-top, must be a high top. That narrows it down a bit. Keep looking.

  • Mr Sambambles
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    edited January 2016 #6

    Yes. We are having this big debate as to cost v quality. Murvi is certainly a good chunk more cash. It would be good to know if the difference is worthy it. Any thoughts ? Any Murvi or Devon owners out there ? 

  • young thomas
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    edited January 2016 #7

    whilst not specifically on the Transit base, anyone considering a quality UK style PVC should at least look at IH.

    front lounge model similar to murvi but even higher quality IMHO..proper washroom, huge kitchen etc....

    if a continental style is more your thing (fixed bed) then carthago/malibu is top notch and Globecar/Possl a great mainstreamer...

  • Mr Sambambles
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    edited January 2016 #8

    Thanks for that. I would like the new Transit though. I believe it is a better base vehicle. Unless I'm mistaken of course. !!!!

  • young thomas
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    Thanks for that. I would like the new Transit though. I believe it is a better base vehicle. Unless I'm mistaken of course. !!!!

    it might depend, to a degree, on the ratio of time spent driving against time spent using the conversion....

    personally, if I found the right PVC conversion, I wouldnt rule it out if it were on a Ducato....still a damn good base unit... ...bought our latest one (of three) last Jan....

     

  • BlueVanMan
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    edited January 2016 #10

    For build quality, design innovation, quality of components  and service its ENC Fifer for me.

  • rayjsj
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    edited January 2016 #11

    Do they do a conversion on a Ford Base blue VM.?

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2016 #12

    have been considering making the change myself and  .....

    Do they do a V6? Wink

  • Mr Sambambles
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    edited January 2016 #13

    They certainly look interesting. Never heard of them before. Looks as if they use Citron base. Looked at their web site but looks a bit dated. I may be wrong and Only my opinion of course. Looks a bit brown. The quality would be good though. Still leaning
    towards Murvi unless anything else crops up. Off to the NEC in Feb so will be able to really narrow it down. 

  • BlueVanMan
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    edited January 2016 #14

    The website is dated because they are too busy building vans. It gives a false impression. I have seen the new vehicles in freshened 2106 spec build on the X290 and they look great. No Ford and based on a Citroen Relay or optionally I think Fiat. The Murvi
    and the Fifer have a "dated" design in common. Evolution not revolution. But there is much clever stuff in the Fifer. Diesel heating compressor fridge huge battery solar panel. Much cheaper than a Fifer especially as nearly all the options are there as standard.
    No V6 engine but why would you want one. Have done 100mph on autobahn with the 130bhp so its definitely got enough power. 

  • tigerfish
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    edited January 2016 #15

    MM  --Naughty Naughty!

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2016 #16

     ..... No V6 engine but why would you want one. Have done 100mph on autobahn with the 130bhp so its definitely got enough power. 

    From another thread Happy .... there ain't no substute for cubes Wink

  • Mr Sambambles
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    edited January 2016 #17

    So what do you folks think regarding 5.5 or 6m. ?

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2016 #18

    MM  --Naughty Naughty!

    Cool The very fact that they're Citroen or Fiat based would be enough to make me think again. SWMBO's 60 plate 25000 C3 hasn't exactly been trouble
    free (best part of £1000 spent on it in the last 18months) and Fiat Fix It Again Tomorrow .... doesn't inspire confidence.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2016 #19

    So what do you folks think regarding 5.5 or 6m. ?

    This is meant to be derisory at all ...... how much motorhome can you get in 5.5m or even 6m? I'd have thought that things would be 'cosy' to say the least. My towcar isn't much shorter at 5.156m long
    click here

  • BlueVanMan
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    edited January 2016 #20

    We find the 5.4 ideal for our needs. Sufficient space for an 8 week trip to Europe. Of course the space IS more limited than some vehicles and a smaller van needs a degree of organisation and discipline but for drivability and ease of parking (we go to some
    remote places) it is perfect for us. On the other hand the 6 metre Fifer has greater verstility (rotating seats) and even more storage including underfloor in the cab area. The engine in the Citroen is actually a Ford Puma derived engine. (The 3 litre would
    be a Fiat). You can't reject a brand on account of a bad experience with one vehicle one vehicle especially one which is not the same vehicle or even a a van.

    A commercial vehicle is designed for a hard life being driven long distances at motorway speeds so compa

    MM  --Naughty Naughty!

    Write your comments here...Perfectly legal in the section in question and I was barely keeping up with the other traffic.

    rison with a C3 is not a reliable guide. For what its worth (probaly not a lot) we did about 26K in our last Van (a Ford) and 28K so far in our Fifer. We had a suspension problem (manufacturing defect) with the Fifer which cost about £100 to fix (paid by
    convertor) and an alternator pulley failure and leaking sump on the Ford. None of these were major issues so I would guage reliability to be about the same.    

  • BlueVanMan
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    edited January 2016 #21

    Oops I have managed to put two posts together however I am sure MM TF and Mr S can work it out !!

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2016 #22

     .... You can't reject a brand on account of a bad experience with one vehicle one vehicle especially one which is not the same vehicle or even a a van.

    .....    

    Let's face it, neither the French nor Italians have a fantastic reputation when it comes to electrics Wink

  • BlueVanMan
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    edited January 2016 #23

    Another massive generalisation. 

  • rayjsj
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    edited January 2016 #24

    Nothing specific against Sevel made products (Fiat,Peugeot, Citroen) just that my last three motor homes cabs have been made by them, and all have had vehicle problems of various types and ALL have had very poor electrics/electronics. So, want a change, either a VW or a Ford, and Ford look the most promising, for us at least, we will be spending more time driving it than using the habitation, so, ease of parking is important, it will be our only form of transport & must have a fitted cassette loo.No pop- tops,high top only,  any suggestions?  .   Max 6 metres length. The Autosleeper Duetto would have been perfect, but is no longer made unfortunately.The Murvi is looking more attractive by the hour.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2016 #25

    Another massive generalisation. 

    Ray seems to sum up the reliablity of French & Italian vehicles ...... generally speaking Wink

  • tigerfish
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    edited January 2016 #26

    My only experience of French electrical engineering comes from 12 years in the Helicopter Industry and with a company that specialised in French and German Helicopters.

    Our own engineers much preferred the rock solid German engineering and described the French built machines of having a tendency to suffer from "Wiggely Amps"

    TF

  • BlueVanMan
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    edited January 2016 #27

    German engineering has a reputation for quality and every car I have ever owned since 1972 has been German (apart from a small aberation to a Volvo which I kept briefly). However every car or van is built from components sourced in many countries and even
    the most prestigous vehicles will have components sourced from China or elsewhere. Transits are built in Turkey although Ford refer to "European" production. So a German Vehicle will almost certainly have some French components (or components manufactured
    by a French company but not neccessarily in France e.g. Michelin tyres).  The point I am trying to make is that you really can't generalise. Another example is that the Porsche Cayenne in actually built in Bratislava in Slovakia so it isn't German (except
    of the course that the design, tooling and many components come from Germany.

    Some way away from the original Murvi/Transit question I know.  

  • rayjsj
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    edited January 2016 #28

    Unfortunately VW based (T5/T6) campers tend to be very expensive, latest Autosleeper Topaz is 56,000 pounds !! As we say in Wales, that's  Beyond that is !     Other converters are not much cheaper, Bilbo,Danbury even Devon. And I'm  afraid I am not quite
    so convinced about German efficiency  having worked for BASF for some years.  It's a bit of an expensive myth. Put about by the Germans themselves. But back to Murvi.....any owners out there ? 

  • Mr Sambambles
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    edited January 2016 #29

    Well. The more I look into those Murvi the more I like the look of them. The quality and layouts really looks good. Looking forward to seeing them at the show. The downside is that there is about a 10 month waiting list. Quality sells!!!!!!!

  • tigerfish
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    edited January 2016 #30

    I had a similar problem in getting to see one. The solution for me was to wait until a saw a relatively up to date Murvi on site somewhere and approached the owner and asked him about it.

    He was so proud of his MH that he insisted on showing me. He was very appreciative with their attitude and helpfulness, not as he made it clear, that he actually had any faults, just getting used to it!

    TF

  • rayjsj
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    edited January 2016 #31

    I agree about IH as well, unfortunately they also seem to be a Sevel  only converter, these days. And they don't  seem to convert onto the shorter wheelbase vans, everyone seems to be going for the extra long wheelbase ones. Shame. (For me).