Fixed double bed suggestions
I am looking for fixed bed M/H about 6 to 6.5m in length.would be used and a budget of about £25,000, any suggestions to look at??????
Thanks
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Me and wife bought a fixed bed swift bessacarr MH on a fiat chassis in august. Its 6.3 metres long and we are over the moon with it. Its 11 years old with 38k miles. Got it for 20k. Excellent quality would highly recommend. They are out there shop around.
Ebay is good for comparing year and prices etc. Good luck .0 -
If you are looking for a fixed bed I would make sure its as large as you need. Many motorhomes have undersized double beds so take a tape measure with you.
David
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If you are looking for a fixed bed I would make sure its as large as you need. Many motorhomes have undersized double beds so take a tape measure with you.
David
Write your comments here...good idea David, when we were looking we discounted UK band as the beds are so small and narrow, being over 6 foot we wanted a longer wider bed and we found in general the continental vans had the larger beds and were of the advertised size. Of course both ksy in it as well like you are buying a bed for home.
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If you are looking for a fixed bed I would make sure its as large as you need. Many motorhomes have undersized double beds so take a tape measure with you.
David
Write your comments here...good idea David, when we were looking we discounted UK band as the beds are so small and narrow, being over 6 foot we wanted a longer wider bed and we found in general the continental vans had the larger beds and were of the advertised
size. Of course both ksy in it as well like you are buying a bed for home.MichaelT, not all Uk vans have small beds. Our Bessacarr 480G's is a standard 4'6" wide but is very long, the full width of the van in fact which is 2.24m externally, so I guess the bed length is well over 6'. Regards, Roy
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If you are looking for a fixed bed I would make sure its as large as you need. Many motorhomes have undersized double beds so take a tape measure with you.
David
Write your comments here...good idea David, when we were looking we discounted UK band as the beds are so small and narrow, being over 6 foot we wanted a longer wider bed and we found in general the continental vans had the larger beds and were of the advertised size. Of course both ksy in it as well like you are buying a bed for home.
MichaelT, not all Uk vans have small beds. Our Bessacarr 480G's is a standard 4'6" wide but is very long, the full width of the van in fact which is 2.24m externally, so I guess the bed length is well over 6'. Regards, Roy
Write your comments here...Perhaps I should have been clearer, we did not want a side or transverse bed where one person had to clamber over the other so an Island bed.
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Husky, there are a few types of 'fixed bed' but 6-6.5m is a relatively small van, so choosing the type of bed will influence the feasibility in that chosen length.
fixed singles (high or low) are ruled out, i guess, as you wanted a double.....
so, where does this leave you....
island bed, great for entry/exit either side (as described by Michael) but is the most costly in terms of space ised and therefore lengthe of van. some modern vans now have a 'semi' island bed with shower alongside to help the length issue, but these are more modern (expensive) than your budget.
transverse bed, good for keeping van length down, great for size and usually large storage underneath, but there is the problem of difficulty of exit for the sleeper nearest the rear wall.....
french bed, good compromise....keeps length dowm, good storage under, but same issue with bed access.....
i realise you need at least some storage for the scooter, hence the advantage of the 'fixed bed' design.....
curved ball........have you thought of a PVC? pretty well all either 6m or 6.4....huge choice of fixed bed (plus storage under) layouts.....eg Adria Twin (and similar) layouts, many within budget, yet still modern designs and lowish mileages.
6.4m pvc now available with twin rear lengthways singles that allow easy access and provide good storage underneath.....but also, can be joined with an infil piece (at head end) to simulate a double, yet with easy space around the foot end.....
easy to drive and park (for first MH), good mpg etc....
possibly worth a look.......?
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Thanks BB, plenty to ponder, i do have space on my drive for up to 8 meters, but trying to look for an allround compromise of big enough to be comfortable in, but not to big to cause parking problems, to be honest i'm not in a rush to buy ,as i want to try
and get it as right as i canYes , will give PVC's a look ,i'm not going to discard any thing........................
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We have a Hymer B564 which has a drop down double bed, a large L-shaped lounge area which converts to another double. A side kitchen and a big rear bathroom with a full shower cubicle. It packs all that into a length of 6m. It is also a version made for the UK market so it has an oven and grill although the door is still on the continental side. We love it.
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Seems like they've had a "topsy" moment. They're 7.3M now.
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Seems like they've had a "topsy" moment. They're 7.3M now.
...I think that may be the B654 CY. Ours is a 2004 B564
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i did highlight small (ish) drop down bed models like ypurs and the archetypal B544 but Husky doesnt want a drop down bed, although i dont think he's seen an A-class one in the flesh, as these dont obscure the lounge area and also drop far lower than most
'central' drop downs.....if i were happy to have the bikes on the back of the van (rather than in our garage, id have a B544 like a shot....
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The Chauson 620 is an innovative design. Worth a look! It's featured in the latest MMM.
yes, a central drop down island bed, with a garage.....very useful.
however, HD set a budget far below that of this brand new design.......
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A Euromobil (636 and the like) should suit your budget HD. A good German build that should remain sound in spite of age. The 636LS is on a Merc base, but there are cheaper Fiat versions. These are A-Class, with one of the lowest drop down beds I’ve come
across, but no garage (put bikes on a carrier). The rest of the living space works very well for a vehicle that’s 6.5m. Of course, you’ll need to find one, first.0 -
A Euromobil (636 and the like) should suit your budget HD. A good German build that should remain sound in spite of age. The 636LS is on a Merc base, but there are cheaper Fiat versions. These are A-Class, with one of the lowest drop down beds I’ve come
across, but no garage (put bikes on a carrier). The rest of the living space works very well for a vehicle that’s 6.5m. Of course, you’ll need to find one, first.Write your comments here...problem is once you put a bike rack on the back you are up to 7m so is it better to get a bigger van with a garage and keep the bikes clean and secure?
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i did highlight small (ish) drop down bed models like ypurs and the archetypal B544 but Husky doesnt want a drop down bed, although i dont think he's seen an A-class one in the flesh, as these dont obscure the lounge area and also drop far lower than most
'central' drop downs.....if i were happy to have the bikes on the back of the van (rather than in our garage, id have a B544 like a shot....
...If you like Hymer, have a look at
THIS one for sale now. I spotted it on the internet today.0 -
We have a Hymer B564 which has a drop down double bed, a large L-shaped lounge area which converts to another double. A side kitchen and a big rear bathroom with a full shower cubicle. It packs all that into a length of 6m. It is also a version made
for the UK market so it has an oven and grill although the door is still on the continental side. We love it.Aren't most drop down beds in A-classes transverse though? If so, I would have thought that would lead to the same aversion Husky has to bed-over-garage setups.
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We have a Hymer B564 which has a drop down double bed, a large L-shaped lounge area which converts to another double. A side kitchen and a big rear bathroom with a full shower cubicle. It packs all that into a length of 6m. It is also a version made
for the UK market so it has an oven and grill although the door is still on the continental side. We love it.Aren't most drop down beds in A-classes transverse though? If so, I would have thought that would lead to the same aversion Husky has to bed-over-garage setups.
D4, i don't have an aversion to that type of set , the reason i would have to look hard at that type of layout is the fact the wife has a mobility problem and cant lift her legs very high,she struggles with starirs, but when we go to a dealers to have a
look round ,we will look at everything
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We have a Hymer B564 which has a drop down double bed, a large L-shaped lounge area which converts to another double. A side kitchen and a big rear bathroom with a full shower cubicle. It packs all that into a length of 6m. It is also a version made
for the UK market so it has an oven and grill although the door is still on the continental side. We love it.Aren't most drop down beds in A-classes transverse though? If so, I would have thought that would lead to the same aversion Husky has to bed-over-garage setups.
D4, i don't have an aversion to that type of set , the reason i would have to look hard at that type of layout is the fact the wife has a mobility problem and cant lift her legs very high,she struggles with starirs, but when we go to a dealers to have a
look round ,we will look at everythingWrite your comments here...HD thats the best thing to do, go to a large dealer that has all sorts of makes and layouts and leave the vans unlocked and just go round and try them out, oyu quickly decide what works and what does not you can then hone in on
the right van for you. We found it did not take too long to whittle down what we liked and did not like based on our initial list then it was finding teh best value for us.0 -
The model I pasted above has a drop down bed but also has a French double bed at the back. Our B564 has a convertible double in the living area as well as the drop down and still comes in at only 6m.
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We have a Hymer B564 which has a drop down double bed, a large L-shaped lounge area which converts to another double. A side kitchen and a big rear bathroom with a full shower cubicle. It packs all that into a length of 6m. It is also a version made for the UK market so it has an oven and grill although the door is still on the continental side. We love it.
Aren't most drop down beds in A-classes transverse though? If so, I would have thought that would lead to the same aversion Husky has to bed-over-garage setups.
D4, i don't have an aversion to that type of set , the reason i would have to look hard at that type of layout is the fact the wife has a mobility problem and cant lift her legs very high,she struggles with starirs, but when we go to a dealers to have a look round ,we will look at everything
Do ask the dealers, though, because there could be combinations which would help. For example, I had an Autotrail Cheyenne 696G in the past, which (along with being a bit long for what you want) had the fixed bed over the garage so would be unsuitable for your wife. However, there's a rarer 696 (no G) knocking about which has the fixed bed at seat height, albeit with consequent loss of garage space - it's the sort of thing you'd not find out unless you got into a conversation with a good dealer.
The only thing I would say (& with respect to Oldgirl as no two of us are the same) is that the combination of <7M and fixed bed is a tough challenge - it's achievable but something has to give, and typically it'd be lounge and/or washroom. Motorhome lounges are an acquired taste, and if you're coming from a caravan background the compromise of loss of lounge space may be too much when compared to either a) getting a longer van or b) getting a van with an easily assembled bed, e.g. Elddis Autoquest 115.
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A Euromobil (636 and the like) should suit your budget HD. A good German build that should remain sound in spite of age. The 636LS is on a Merc base, but there are cheaper Fiat versions. These are A-Class, with one of the lowest drop down beds I’ve come across, but no garage (put bikes on a carrier). The rest of the living space works very well for a vehicle that’s 6.5m. Of course, you’ll need to find one, first.
Write your comments here...problem is once you put a bike rack on the back you are up to 7m so is it better to get a bigger van with a garage and keep the bikes clean and secure?
Write your comments here...But a bike rack can be folded up, a garage can't. And a bike sized garage makes the rear double (or 2 singles) too high for folk with mobility problems to access.Exactly the problems we found when looking.We ended up with an Autotrail Savannah, which still suits us 3 years on, even if it is 7.6 metres.
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A Euromobil (636 and the like) should suit your budget HD. A good German build that should remain sound in spite of age. The 636LS is on a Merc base, but there are cheaper Fiat versions. These are A-Class, with one of the lowest drop down beds I’ve come across, but no garage (put bikes on a carrier). The rest of the living space works very well for a vehicle that’s 6.5m. Of course, you’ll need to find one, first.
Write your comments here...problem is once you put a bike rack on the back you are up to 7m so is it better to get a bigger van with a garage and keep the bikes clean and secure?
Write your comments here...But a bike rack can be folded up, a garage can't. And a bike sized garage makes the rear double (or 2 singles) too high for folk with mobility problems to access.Exactly the problems we found when looking.We ended up with an Autotrail Savannah, which still suits us 3 years on, even if it is 7.6 metres.
Write your comments here...I would be interested to see how you fold a bike rack up with 2 bikes on
I did not say it was better I said is it better?, our M/H on order has an island bed but as its not a full height garage its a normal height bed or maybe slightly higher but no stairs to climb so you can have the option of a normal height bed and a smaller garage to put bikes in and keep the length the same as having a rack on the back.0 -
I have a van with a huge garage (the bed moves up and down so you can vary the available space - height wise anyway), but I found the securing of the bike in the garage was an absolute and total pain in the neck. This was despite a good system of available and moveable eyes, in a runner, into which one could hook bungies. (I have noted such devices are absent from lots of other garage vans I have seen. Goodness knows how they cope.) Anyway, for me it got to the ridiculous point that it was so much of a hassle getting the bike secured then getting it unsecured and out of the garage again to use that I was barley using it.
So I got a bike rack! I am so glad I did. I could still garage the bike without the need to secure it when on site and keep it out of the rain.
I shall miss the garage when I pickup my new van next year which has a French bed and hence only underbed storage. The garage had lots of wooden cubby holes to keep things secure in - such as hose, tools, hook up lead, cleaning stuffs and much more. I am going to have to learn how to keep these things secure in a huge underbed area in my new van.
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Gray, we have the Fiamma Bike Garage.....just wheel the bike in and fasten tomthe rack on the floor and on the rear garage wall, takes as little time as our previous external rack.
posted a picture from the fiamma site but guess what.......no pic....
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