Price increase tonight?

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  • cabbiemick
    cabbiemick Forum Participant Posts: 297
    edited October 2016 #32

    Its a shame we cant do what the london cabbies did we stopped buying fuel from a certain cain of garages until they soon put there prices back vote with your money we should all boycott the first manufacturer's to put there prices up if the others see that
    manufacturer is not selling vans or motorhomes there think twice about following suit then the first one will reduce its price its the only way

  • neveramsure
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    edited October 2016 #33

    I would not buy a new caravan or car and probably can’t afford it anyway but I’m glad some of you are as it gives me more second hand ones to chose from.Laughing

  • triky auto
    triky auto Forum Participant Posts: 8,690
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    edited October 2016 #34

    Plenty of good quality 2nd hand vans on the market, I will never ever buy another new van

    I never buy second hand , its one of lifes luxuries buying new and I am approaching the stage where if I dont spend it I know someone else who will without a second thoughtHappy

    I look on the van as one of life necessitys and not a luxury Happy

    Its a necessity to us too!

    Its being the first ones to ever live in it or in the case of a car drive it that is the luxury. Happy

     

    Write your comments here...Why leave your luxury at home ?? Take it with you !! In your own space in your own time.Laughing.

  • birderbilly
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    edited October 2016 #35

    We bought a new runaround car last year, we actually had no intention of buying new but when we looked at some of the PCP deals that were/are available, in some cases 0% interest and £0 deposit, with 3yr servicing included it frankly didn't make financial sense buying second hand unless we went for a car that was about 4-5 years old. We have a 3yr PCP deal, no need to worry about depreciation, tyres, servicing, MOTs etc, after 3 yrs we just hand it back - brilliant.  Shame you can't do the same with caravans.

  • Briang
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    edited October 2016 #36

    We bought a new runaround car last year, we actually had no intention of buying new but when we looked at some of the PCP deals that were/are available, in some cases 0% interest and £0 deposit, with 3yr servicing included it frankly didn't make financial
    sense buying second hand unless we went for a car that was about 4-5 years old. We have a 3yr PCP deal, no need to worry about depreciation, tyres, servicing, MOTs etc, after 3 yrs we just hand it back - brilliant.  Shame you can't do the same with caravans.

    Have you worked out the total cost you have paid in the 3 years. That is depreciation on a new car if you had bought it.

  • scoutman
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    edited October 2016 #37

    We bought a new runaround car last year, we actually had no intention of buying new but when we looked at some of the PCP deals that were/are available, in some cases 0% interest and £0 deposit, with 3yr servicing included it frankly didn't make financial
    sense buying second hand unless we went for a car that was about 4-5 years old. We have a 3yr PCP deal, no need to worry about depreciation, tyres, servicing, MOTs etc, after 3 yrs we just hand it back - brilliant.  Shame you can't do the same with caravans.

    Write your comments here...But you can now. Black Horse Finance have just come up with a PCP for caravans

  • cyberyacht
    cyberyacht Forum Participant Posts: 10,218
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    edited October 2016 #38

    PCP - how to pay a lot of money and have now't to show for it.

  • birderbilly
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    edited October 2016 #39

    We bought a new runaround car last year, we actually had no intention of buying new but when we looked at some of the PCP deals that were/are available, in some cases 0% interest and £0 deposit, with 3yr servicing included it frankly didn't make financial
    sense buying second hand unless we went for a car that was about 4-5 years old. We have a 3yr PCP deal, no need to worry about depreciation, tyres, servicing, MOTs etc, after 3 yrs we just hand it back - brilliant.  Shame you can't do the same with caravans.

    Have you worked out the total cost you have paid in the 3 years. That is depreciation on a new car if you had bought it.

    Yes clearly you are paying for the depreciation but it's a known amount as far as we are concerned, we have a guaranteed value at 3 years, if the car is worth less than that, which it almost certainly will be, we just hand it back.  We couldn't believe have
    good some of the deals that were available were.  Believe me I am no fan of borrowing money but at the moment it does make sense.

  • birderbilly
    birderbilly Forum Participant Posts: 349
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    edited October 2016 #40

    PCP - how to pay a lot of money and have now't to show for it.

    Totally wrong.

  • IanH
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    edited October 2016 #41

    We have tended to buy new cars for the last few purchases.

    I bought a new BMW some years ago. A colleague proudly told me at the time how he had bought a 'nearly new' one with only a few thousand miles on it. He had saved about 3 thousand pounds!

    I didn't like to say that I'd just bought a brand new one and got somewhere between £4-5 thousand off the list price. Plus I got the full warranty, brand new tyres etc and only my name on the log book.

  • KjellNN
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    edited October 2016 #42

    We buy new, but keep them a long time, so the average depreciation is possibly less.

    Current van we have had 8 years 7 months so far, previous one we had for 9 years 6 months.

    Current car we have had for 9 years 8 months, previous one for 14 years.

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2016 #43

    PCP - how to pay a lot of money and have now't to show for it.

    Your not from Yorkshire!!

  • ValDa
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    edited October 2016 #44

    We buy new, but keep them a long time!  Our current caravan is now sixteen years old and we've looked for a replacement but never find anything which quite matches it!

  • SurreySimon
    SurreySimon Forum Participant Posts: 18
    edited October 2016 #45

    What a load of wingers most of you are! Of course prices will rise for all new caravans, motor homes and anything else built in the UK due to Brexit and the collapse of the pound, -as most  of the contents are imported... Alde,  Alko, Thetford, Tecnoform,
    etc are all continental imports. All UK manufacturers will face the same problem. My advice would be to buy now if you are looking for a 2017 model. Just did a deal at the NEC on a new caravan trading in our 2015 model. I wasn't planning on changing so soon
    but got offered a great part exchange from the dealer we bought it from. Taking into account another service, phantom tracker subscription etc we will have to pay if we keep our existing van subscription, it is great deal. I was astonished at the part exchange
    variance between dealers though, saved over £1,000 between dealers. One thing is for certain used values don't generally go up, so the gap to change will only get wider, the money in the bank is worthless as interest rates are not worth bothering with on any
    savings you have, so if you want a new Caravan, I would buy it now! 

  • jennyc
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    edited October 2016 #46

    We buy new, but keep them a long time!  Our current caravan is now sixteen years old and we've looked for a replacement but never find anything which quite matches it!

    Write your comments here...

    Current Specs are so much higher than they were 16 years ago, that I'm not surprised that you can't match your existing van. LED lights, Alde heating, remote alarm fobs, better door locks, microwaves, ATC, Duvalay lightweight mattresses on fixed beds, the
    list is long, topped by wood free, lightweight construction. The only thing that seems to have suffered is the L shaped lounge.

  • young thomas
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    edited October 2016 #47

    We buy new, but keep them a long time!  Our current caravan is now sixteen years old and we've looked for a replacement but never find anything which quite matches it!

    Write your comments here...

    Current Specs are so much higher than they were 16 years ago, that I'm not surprised that you can't match your existing van. LED lights, Alde heating, remote alarm fobs, better door locks, microwaves, ATC, Duvalay lightweight mattresses on fixed beds, the
    list is long, topped by wood free, lightweight construction. The only thing that seems to have suffered is the L shaped lounge.

    .....and the fact that Val's got a dry van.....Wink

  • Oneputt
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    edited October 2016 #48

    We buy new, but keep them a long time!  Our current caravan is now sixteen years old and we've looked for a replacement but never find anything which quite matches it!

    Write your comments here...

    Current Specs are so much higher than they were 16 years ago, that I'm not surprised that you can't match your existing van. LED lights, Alde heating, remote alarm fobs, better door locks, microwaves, ATC, Duvalay lightweight mattresses on fixed beds, the
    list is long, topped by wood free, lightweight construction. The only thing that seems to have suffered is the L shaped lounge.

    Unfortunately not everything new is either quality or even desirably 

  • Surfer
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    edited October 2016 #49

    Visited a Swift dealer this afternoon. Salesman  was busy removing all the prices from new caravans. Told us he was expecting a 4 to 5 percent increase in price tonight. Stated that this applied to all manufacturers. Sad

    I guess that the fall in the value of the £ is havng an mpact looking forward. 

    I would have thought that any manufacturer with a grain of sense would have already ordered any parts that need to be imported for the 2017 caravans months ago and as the goods are imported paid for them already.  A lot of stuff for caravans is made locally
    anyway.

  • Wildwood
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    edited October 2016 #50

    Putting tbe price up on caravans in stock is just a rip off by the dealer. Those caravans have been built using paid for parts and the fall in the value of the pound was irrelevant. Tbe next batch will be more expensive but all that is happening to the ones
    described is the dealer is looking to make the increase as extra profit. If he is that dishonest avoid.

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
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    edited October 2016 #51

    Caravan prices seemed to have shot up regardless over the last 5 years of low inflation

  • Boff
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    edited October 2016 #52

    Putting tbe price up on caravans in stock is just a rip off by the dealer. Those caravans have been built using paid for parts and the fall in the value of the pound was irrelevant. Tbe next batch will be more expensive but all that is happening to the ones described is the dealer is looking to make the increase as extra profit. If he is that dishonest avoid.

    If the dealer is putting the price up on pre made stock then that's a rip off, or to give its proper name free enterprise.   However from a manufacturers point of view although the existing caravans have been made using cheaper parts. The manufacturer might need to increase the price to generate the extra cash so that the can buy more imported components, at a higher price, to fit in to their batch of British caravans.  

    Companies don't go under because of profits but because of cash flow. 

  • MichaelT
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    edited October 2016 #53

    I do not think the dealer was going to up the price of his current stock rather the ticket price on the demo vans for ordering a new one.  All manufacturuers raise prices on a certain date be it caravans, cars, Kit Kats etc.  So even if a Kit Kat was made
    last week if the price goes up today you pay the new price so please all get off your high horses calling dealers rip off merchants etc.  They are told the retail price by the maker and advertise as such, it is then up to them if they wish to discount the
    sale or not.

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2016 #54

    I do not think the dealer was going to up the price of his current stock rather the ticket price on the demo vans for ordering a new one.  All manufacturuers raise prices on a certain date be it caravans, cars, Kit Kats etc.  So even if a Kit Kat was made
    last week if the price goes up today you pay the new price so please all get off your high horses calling dealers rip off merchants etc.  They are told the retail price by the maker and advertise as such, it is then up to them if they wish to discount the
    sale or not.

    ...Very true

  • moulesy
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    edited October 2016 #55

    Caravan prices seemed to have shot up regardless over the last 5 years of low inflation

    Very true ET - but then that's the myth of "low inflation". If you look at the "basket of items" they use to measure inflation, how many does the average person actually purchase on a regular basis?

    Undecided. Use left and right arrows to navigate.

  • Kennine
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    edited October 2016 #56

    New caravan prices continually increase. Its called market forces.. Manufacturers will price their products right up to the level that they know that the gullible public will still reluctantly accept.

    The way to stop the spiralling prices is to stop buying new products for a couple of years. 

    Manufacturers will soon get the message and re-adjust their profit margin to stay in business. .

    KCool

  • MichaelT
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    edited October 2016 #57

    New caravan prices continually increase. Its called market forces.. Manufacturers will price their products right up to the level that they know that the gullible public will still reluctantly accept.

    The way to stop the spiralling prices is to stop buying new products for a couple of years. 

    Manufacturers will soon get the message and re-adjust their profit margin to stay in business. .

    KCool

    Write your comments here...I take it you have retired and no longer need a job unlike all the poeple employed in the industry plus suppliers etc!!! 

    Prices go up due to a number of reasons and even though inflation is low I bet a new caravan or MH is not on the list of items that make up the list, nor are components that go into the vans etc.

    To get the economy moving we must keep buying new in all areas to boost our economy and if this Brexit thing is to work we will have to export more as well....

  • Surfer
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    edited October 2016 #58

    New caravan prices continually increase. Its called market forces.. Manufacturers will price their products right up to the level that they know that the gullible public will still reluctantly accept.

    The way to stop the spiralling prices is to stop buying new products for a couple of years. 

    Manufacturers will soon get the message and re-adjust their profit margin to stay in business. .

    KCool

    And I always thought that prices increased due to the wages of the workers being increased.  I must be naive!

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2016 #59

    New caravan prices continually increase. Its called market forces.. Manufacturers will price their products right up to the level that they know that the gullible public will still reluctantly accept.

    The way to stop the spiralling prices is to stop buying new products for a couple of years. 

    Manufacturers will soon get the message and re-adjust their profit margin to stay in business. .

    KCool




    ..K   you like myself and quite a few others who post on here are retired,and since retirement,(for me1994 from the daily commute into London)and tend to have lost touch with how those still having to do it,   wages have increased, my old job is still there but is now £87000pa over three times what i was paid and has two add staff, not that i would go back, so we have to come into the real world with todays prices plus the cost of "tecknology" that every one seems to "need"