ATC and Speed Humps

catherinef
catherinef Forum Participant Posts: 647
edited August 2016 in Caravans #1

Has anyone ever found their ATC affected by Speed Humps?

We were on a slopped site recently and when driving up the hill to our pitch we had to go over 2 speed humps. After I crossed them and started to apply power the caravan brakes applied.  Wasn't sure if it was the ATC or the brake away cable too taught.

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  • Snowy1
    Snowy1 Forum Participant Posts: 263
    edited August 2016 #2

    I have heard that it is possible for speed humps to trigger the ATC in certain conditions, to name one; If for instance the speed humps are in pairs i.e. two square ones side by side with a gap in the middle of them and then they each have another gap between themselves and the kerb if you know what I mean. If one of the caravans' wheels goes over one of the humps and the other wheel goes through one of the gaps, this then rocks the caravan from side to side which can trigger the ATC. Don't think it will be your break-away cable being too taught, as in theory, it would ratchet your caravans' brakes on!

  • catherinef
    catherinef Forum Participant Posts: 647
    edited August 2016 #3

    Thanks Snowy, the speed bumps in question were full width ones like a squashed half sausage if you see what I mean.

    When we were coming home this afternoon again uphill on a bend I had the brakes come on,  the caravan had hit a pothole/rut. 

    If its the ATC I've now had 4 activations, since we got it in April.  One on a slip road and 3 on hills, with 2 at 5-10 mph!  It was checked out the last time it was at the dealership and no fault was found.

  • Snowy1
    Snowy1 Forum Participant Posts: 263
    edited August 2016 #4

    Thanks Snowy, the speed bumps in question were full width ones like a squashed half sausage if you see what I mean.

    When we were coming home this afternoon again uphill on a bend I had the brakes come on,  the caravan had hit a pothole/rut. 

    Again, if one of the caravans' wheels falls into a pot-hole and the other doe's not, this COULD allow the van to rock from side to side in the same way I have discribed above. If driving over said sausage type speed-hump; if the speed hump is on a bend or the hump is slightly diagonal across the road, it's possible that one wheel could start to cross the hump slightly before the other does and then come off the hump slightly before the other wheel does due to the hump being off-set, this COULD cause the caravan to rock from side to side, again it COULD trigger the ATC. It does seem like your ATC maybe adjusted to sensitive at the factory.

  • catherinef
    catherinef Forum Participant Posts: 647
    edited August 2016 #5

    Thanks again Snowy, I'll ask them when it goes back next month for warranty work if they can look at adjusting it slightly.  

  • TimJim
    TimJim Forum Participant Posts: 162
    edited August 2016 #6

    The efficiency of the ATC   is dependant on mass and speed ie momentum and it is quite normal to activate when the van is in negative G....ie going light over a sharp rise so no cause for concern. It's the only time I really notice ours working to be honest.

    Tj

  • Snowy1
    Snowy1 Forum Participant Posts: 263
    edited August 2016 #7

    AL-KO ATC Factory Video;   

    Showing the effects of sideways movement.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpOTWjPmyCw 

  • catherinef
    catherinef Forum Participant Posts: 647
    edited August 2016 #8

    Some great ATC video's on youtube aren't there Happy

    There's a good one from Alko Australia.  I'm currently watching a comparison between ATC and the BPW version.

    It's a shame we can't get a download from the ATC system of how many activations it's had.

  • Snowy1
    Snowy1 Forum Participant Posts: 263
    edited August 2016 #9

    Yes catherinef, some good ones! I've watched them too.

  • captainslogg
    captainslogg Club Member Posts: 52 ✭✭
    edited August 2016 #10

    Have had a few activations with ATC. Always at low speed just after speed bumps or mini roundabouts on two different caravans. It's reassuring knowing that it's working. ATC is a bit like insurance, you buy it but hope that it's never needed

  • Snowy1
    Snowy1 Forum Participant Posts: 263
    edited August 2016 #11

    Have had a few activations with ATC. Always at low speed just after speed bumps or mini roundabouts on two different caravans. It's reassuring knowing that it's working. ATC is a bit like insurance, you buy it but hope that it's never needed

    Catherinef;

    Having read this post, it appears that your ATC's sensitivity maybe adjusted correctly after all, happy days eh?

  • catherinef
    catherinef Forum Participant Posts: 647
    edited August 2016 #12

    Thanks Snowy.  If we assume all 4 incidences were ATC activations, funnily enough non of them were shall we say when the caravan appeared to be in trouble.

  • martindf3
    martindf3 Forum Participant Posts: 65
    edited August 2016 #13

    Thanks Snowy, the speed bumps in question were full width ones like a squashed half sausage if you see what I mean.

    When we were coming home this afternoon again uphill on a bend I had the brakes come on,  the caravan had hit a pothole/rut. 

    Again, if one of the caravans' wheels falls into a pot-hole and the other doe's not, this COULD allow the van to rock from side to side in the same way I have discribed above. If driving over said sausage type speed-hump; if the speed hump is on a bend or
    the hump is slightly diagonal across the road, it's possible that one wheel could start to cross the hump slightly before the other does and then come off the hump slightly before the other wheel does due to the hump being off-set, this COULD cause the caravan
    to rock from side to side, again it COULD trigger the ATC. It does seem like your ATC maybe adjusted to sensitive at the factory.

    We have BPW chassis (Elddis ) and their  ITC . It has operated at times on rough ground and on a wollowy hill , I thought at the time that there was nothing wrong with it , just the motion sensor kicking off, thinking the caravan was getting precariously
    close to being unstale and applied brakes slightly . If it happens at 10mph as ours did on a rough road it slows it down almost to a stop , ..... Ultimately quite satisfying that it is going to work ,"when the going gets tuff" ...... I shouldn't worry !