Twitching caravan

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  • ATDel
    ATDel Forum Participant Posts: 335
    edited May 2016 #32

    No i do not!!!!! What I was intimating was that those people in earlier posts who complained about others speeding when towing might not be as law abiding when not towing!!! Obviously without prejudice!!!!!!

    Then I misread your post, sorry. Glad that are 2 of us out there, I don't think we'll win the war though

  • dave the rave
    dave the rave Forum Participant Posts: 806
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    edited May 2016 #33

    Undecided (ieForgive me but it should not be a war!!!!!(roadrage!!!).We can try o educate by driving according to the way in which we
    were taught (a long,long time ago!). I have been known to use hand signals to illustrate my frustration. (ie turn right....arm straight out,turn left.......circular motion,hands up......what are you doing!!!! etc.

  • Bev Nottinghamshire
    Bev Nottinghamshire Forum Participant Posts: 17
    edited May 2016 #34

    Sorry if I have unleased a hornets nest,but as I said before we always stick to the 50-60mph but on todays roads we have had to increase the speed for overtaking and never had any problems. I just wanted advice on this twitching, the caravan is loaded correctly
    the same way as it always has been. 

  • dave the rave
    dave the rave Forum Participant Posts: 806
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    edited May 2016 #35

    entirely not your fault! you posed a reasonable question,others tend to start the arguments!

  • flatcoat
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    edited May 2016 #36

    The OP posted a perfectly reasonable query. Driving in the real pragmatic world is some times safer on ocassions than driving with a blinkered mindset sticking rigidly to the rules. As well as looking at maximum nose weight it may also be worth checking
    lateral (side to side) balance too. Presumably the obvious checks such as tyre pressures have been looked at? 

  • KENNYG
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    edited May 2016 #37

    Sorry if I have unleased a hornets nest,but as I said before we always stick to the 50-60mph but on todays roads we have had to increase the speed for overtaking and never had any problems. I just wanted advice on this twitching, the caravan is loaded correctly the same way as it always has been.??...  .It is OK Bev not your fault  you only wanted some answers to your problem there are always hornets out there to to buzz about it makes you want to stay away from CT doesn't it.

  • Anndel
    Anndel Forum Participant Posts: 12
    edited May 2016 #38

    The OP does not mention which version of the new Sorento they have, the 2010 to 2012 version that has round front spot lights has known towing issues. That is why there was a revision in 2013 with a different suspension and a lower ride. All the information
    can be found at the kis owners club webpage.

    Hi Bev,

    We had one of the old type Sorentos and it would pull just about anything anywhere. We then changed to the new model in 2012. We experienced the twitching you are talking about. On researching this problem it appeared that this was well known. Many car reviewers
    commented on this, in caravan magazines. We now have the next version of the KX2, 2014, and no more twitching. From what I understand there has been some redesigning of the suspension. I know this is of little help to you, but it just gives some background.

  • katieb
    katieb Forum Participant Posts: 74
    edited May 2016 #39

    Following my earlier posting I have just read other comments.

    Sorry OP but I do think one should not purposely go over the speed limit, even if you think it is warranted. I am certainly not perfect and have had in my youth a couple of speeding fines.  I hope I have learned my lesson but have witnessed a number of serious
    accidents due to speeding and hope that no one here ever has that experience - it can affect both the victims and perpetrators of the offence for the rest of their lives.

    Here endeth the second sermon.

    PS Good luck with the twitching if it occurs at lower speeds!

  • Bev Nottinghamshire
    Bev Nottinghamshire Forum Participant Posts: 17
    edited May 2016 #40

    Sorry if I have unleased a hornets nest,but as I said before we always stick to the 50-60mph but on todays roads we have had to increase the speed for overtaking and never had any problems. I just wanted advice on this twitching, the caravan is loaded correctly
    the same way as it always has been.??...  .It is OK Bev not your fault  you only wanted some answers to your problem there are always hornets out there to to buzz about it makes you want to stay away from CT doesn't
    it.

    Write your comments here...I quite agree I only wanted a few idea's not a sermon on the rights and wrongs of slightly speeding, which sometimes can't be helped if your overtaking a vehicle and they start to increase their speed ,  which I might add has happened
    to us on a few unfortunate occasions , not a pleasant experience. 

  • GodivaNige
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    edited May 2016 #41

    As has been pointed out by cyberyacht earlier in the thread, you say that your twitching problem occurs at an indicated 65mph but it is highly likely you will only be doing 60mph, if not less, despite what your speedometer is saying, All speedometers read
    slightly high, they are designed that way. 

    I tow with a Touareg (not at all related to a Sorento, but bear with me). There is a recommended increase of tyre pressures for towing, more so on the rear tyres and if not adhered to, the car is horrific to tow with. Literally a white knuckle ride as you
    grip the steering wheel trying to constantly correct the unstable twitching. With the correct recommended tyre pressures, the drive is transformed. If you haven't already done so, check for any recommended changes in your tyre pressures for laden or towed
    driving. 

  • katieb
    katieb Forum Participant Posts: 74
    edited May 2016 #42

    Iwonder if the "goody twoshoes" who never exceed the speed limit when towing never exceed the speed limit when solo,never drive at more than 5 mph in a car park,never "amber gamble" always signal well before making a manouvre etc.etc.

    I am aware I sound like a goody two shoes but when it comes to preventing lives being lost I reserve the right to be so.  Perhaps if your sister had been killed by a speeding driver you might feel the same

     

  • KENNYG
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    edited May 2016 #43

    As has been pointed out by cyberyacht earlier in the thread, you say that your twitching problem occurs at an indicated 65mph but it is highly likely you will only be doing 60mph, if not less, despite what your speedometer is saying, All speedometers read slightly high, they are designed that way. 

    I tow with a Touareg (not at all related to a Sorento, but bear with me). There is a recommended increase of tyre pressures for towing, more so on the rear tyres and if not adhered to, the car is horrific to tow with. Literally a white knuckle ride as you grip the steering wheel trying to constantly correct the unstable twitching. With the correct recommended tyre pressures, the drive is transformed. If you haven't already done so, check for any recommended changes in your tyre pressures for laden or towed driving. 

    Tyre pressure for a 2010 sarento is 34psi loaded or unloaded towing or solo I like to tow at 36psi.  

     

  • dave the rave
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    edited May 2016 #44

    My 2010 kx3 handbook definitely says that the rear tyre pressures are to be increased when fully laden or towing a trailer.I am unable to remember what the increased pressure should be but is on a sticker on the "B" pillar in the o/s front door.The mk1 and
    facelift Sorentos did not require a pressure increase from solo so it is quite easy if you have had these vehicles to forget the need to pump up the rear tyres when towing.

  • Bev Nottinghamshire
    Bev Nottinghamshire Forum Participant Posts: 17
    edited May 2016 #45

    My 2010 kx3 handbook definitely says that the rear tyre pressures are to be increased when fully laden or towing a trailer.I am unable to remember what the increased pressure should be but is on a sticker on the "B" pillar in the o/s front door.The mk1 and
    facelift Sorentos did not require a pressure increase from solo so it is quite easy if you have had these vehicles to forget the need to pump up the rear tyres when towing.

    Thanks I will definitely increase the tyre pressure on the rear two,  just a thought but as it towed perfectly well on the first two journeys and we have checked and have 36psi in all round maybe (fingers crossed ) this could be the problem .

  • dave the rave
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    edited May 2016 #46

    InnocentHopefully that will be the answer.I must admit that after nearly 9 years of owning the mark 1 and facelift sorento,s and never
    having to remember to pump up the tyres before towing,I completely forgot during my first tow with the 2010 model!However,before my trip to Argyle I WILL remember and hopefully that and the MAD springs will produce a stable tow (at somewhere around the speed
    limit!!!!!!

  • ATDel
    ATDel Forum Participant Posts: 335
    edited May 2016 #47

    2013 Sorento has a tyre pressure of 34 all round including towing

    We have pressures set at 35 and tow with this as well, no twitching at all, passed an lgv today on m5 at 60mph rock steady

  • Bev Nottinghamshire
    Bev Nottinghamshire Forum Participant Posts: 17
    edited May 2016 #48

    InnocentHopefully that will be the answer.I must admit that after nearly 9 years of owning the mark 1 and facelift sorento,s and never
    having to remember to pump up the tyres before towing,I completely forgot during my first tow with the 2010 model!However,before my trip to Argyle I WILL remember and hopefully that and the MAD springs will produce a stable tow (at somewhere around the speed
    limit!!!!!!

    That was the same with us when towing our mk1 sorento hardly ever had any problems with it and  didn't need to increase tyre pressure,  but will do it with the new one fingers crossed. 

  • IanBHawkes
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    edited May 2016 #49

    Something that hasn't been mentioed is the tyreson the caravan. Have they by any chance been changed or had a puncture, if so, they might need balancing. This can cause the van to twitch.

    As regards to the speeding, if you are in the position of being raced then it can be very frustrating, but really the answer is to gently ease off and pull in behind the racing driver. Please don't try and get passed as they will only make you go even faster!
    And that can end in disaster for everyone.

  • dave the rave
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    edited May 2016 #50

    I have just checked the recommended tyre pressures for a 2010 Sorento.....17 or 18" wheel.....unladen 33 psi front and rear.....laden/towing.........38psi front and 42 psi rear. Quite an increase and obviously will make a difference to "twiching"

  • KENNYG
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    edited May 2016 #51

    Sarento kx2 2014 tyre presures 33psi all around loaded or unloaded including towing only increase to 36psi. Increasing to 38psi front and 42psi rear is a no no pressure need to be the same due to the way the drive changes from front to rear drive you can
    do serious damage.ot is a bit like wind up.

     

  • dave the rave
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    edited May 2016 #52

    Both the original poster and myself are referring to the 2010 model.your inteference is not helpfull!!!!! and beside that we are referring to the Kia SORENTO.

  • KENNYG
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    edited May 2016 #53

    Sorry I stuck my nose into your conversation, I must be wrong I thought this was CT not the dsweetman post and if you read my thread properly I was talking about a kia sarento.

  • dave the rave
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    edited May 2016 #54

    a.....I was trying to help the original poster with a problem since a change of "tug"  ...surely the whole idea of this forum!!!!! and ....b....I have never ever heard of a Kia sarento...perhaps you could enlighten me!!!!!

  • KENNYG
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    edited May 2016 #55

    And in manual it does state you can raise pressures by 3psi all round. 

  • KENNYG
    KENNYG Forum Participant Posts: 215
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    edited May 2016 #56

    a.....I was trying to help the original poster with a problem since a change of "tug"  ...surely the whole idea of this forum!!!!! and ....b....I have never ever heard of a Kia sarento...perhaps you could enlighten me!!!!!

    Write your comments here...OK could be letter blind a o not much  difference  my mistake. 

  • dave the rave
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    edited May 2016 #57

    quite a big difference......your handbook refers to a later model with revised suspension!!!!We are involved in a 2010 model....different altogether other than front wheel drive!!!

  • 1eftHandDown
    1eftHandDown Forum Participant Posts: 4
    edited May 2016 #58

    We had Mad Springs fitted to the rear of our 2010 Santa Fe Auto to fix a soft rear end & they transformed an OK towcar into a great towcar, highly recommended.

    Santa Fe handbook stated tyre pressures of 38F & 42R for fully laden vehicle, seems a reasonable assumption to use these figures for towing.

    We now have 2014 KX3 Auto with SL suspension, it's a good, stable towcar but no better than the Santa Fe with the Mad Springs.

    I couldn't find a tyre pressure recommendation for fully laden in the Kia handbook so emailed Kia UK for the definative answer.

    This was their response....


    Case Reference - 00030011

    Dear Mr #########


    Thanks for your email.


    When towing we recommend you use the maximum load inflation pressures which are:

    Front tyres 38 psi
    Rear tyres 42 psi

    If there is anything else I can help with, please get in touch.


    Your sincerely


    Victoria Saxby


    Straight from the horses mouth.


    If any Kia owners are not sure what your tyre pressures should be when towing i recommend you ask Kia UK to supply the specs specifically for your vehicle, it doesn't cost anything to ask.

    Hope you manage to find a simple (& cheap) solution.

  • Bev Nottinghamshire
    Bev Nottinghamshire Forum Participant Posts: 17
    edited May 2016 #59

    I have just checked the recommended tyre pressures for a 2010 Sorento.....17 or 18" wheel.....unladen 33 psi front and rear.....laden/towing.........38psi front and 42 psi rear. Quite an increase and obviously will make a difference to "twiching"

    Yes I found that out, so before next trip out we will increase tyre pressure.

    Cool

     

     

  • Bev Nottinghamshire
    Bev Nottinghamshire Forum Participant Posts: 17
    edited May 2016 #60

    Just like to say thanks for all your posts and I will keep you informed about to the outcome . Laughing

  • ATDel
    ATDel Forum Participant Posts: 335
    edited May 2016 #61

    This was my response after asking re a 2013 kx2 with SLS

    Bit of a worry if you ask me, 2 responses for preey much the same car both with SLS and of the same mark 2013 \ 2015

    Case Reference - 1605132807

     

    Dear Mr ,,,,,,,,

     

    Thanks for your email.



    We can confirm that as stated in your Owners Manual, the recommended Tyre pressure for half load/full load driving and towing is 33 psi.

     

    I hope this has answered your question.