Delays at Dover
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Just to address a few points:
When people say that 'the pound has collapsed' ......are they meaning from about 1.26 euros to about 1.19 euros to the pound pre and post brext?
When people say that the delays are due to a changing relationship post brexit......are they aware that we haven't 'brexited' yet......and that there weren't long delays prior to the EU?
Aren't people aware that there are often delays like this at airports and ports after a major terrorist incident?
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I heard someone on the radio saying that 'someone' should be there, handing out food, water and milk for people in the queues with children and that it was irresponsible of 'someone' not to do so.
I wonder if he ever considers that it might be irresponsible of him to take children into this situation, without having prepared and taken food / water / milk......or even having taken them at all.......even though ithe situation has been thoroughly signposted
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Ian, I can understand your point of view, however I don't think anyone would have expected such long delays.
To be fair, it would appear that the situation only became clear early this morning .... by which time, many people were already caught up in traffic jams.
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The last I heard, there was a 90 minute check in time at the tunnel ... but of course you have to get there in the first place (same as everyone travelling to Dover for the ferry) I just feel so sorry for everyone caught up in all of this .... especially
those with children.Kenny, I hope your family don't get delayed for much longer
Still waiting for a text to see if they have got to check in. Yes they have three children under eleven and they do take food and drinks with them but to go to the toilet everyone was just going to the side of the road.
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Lynnruby - The delays were being reported middle of last week. We came home from holiday on Thursday and mentioned it to our neighbour......
Yes, they were reporting delays ..... of about 4 hours. The delays we have seen today are considerably longer
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The last I heard, there was a 90 minute check in time at the tunnel ... but of course you have to get there in the first place (same as everyone travelling to Dover for the ferry) I just feel so sorry for everyone caught up in all of this .... especially
those with children.Kenny, I hope your family don't get delayed for much longer
Still waiting for a text to see if they have got to check in. Yes they have three children under eleven and they do take food and drinks with them but to go to the toilet everyone was just going to the side of the road.
Fingers crossed they get checked in soon. They must be exhausted by now
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The last I heard, there was a 90 minute check in time at the tunnel ... but of course you have to get there in the first place (same as everyone travelling to Dover for the ferry) I just feel so sorry for everyone caught up in all of this .... especially those with children.
Kenny, I hope your family don't get delayed for much longer
Still waiting for a text to see if they have got to check in. Yes they have three children under eleven and they do take food and drinks with them but to go to the toilet everyone was just going to the side of the road.
Fingers crossed they get checked in soon. They must be exhausted by now
Thank you for your concern they have just borded the 10-20 ferry. It took 20hrs to do 5 miles,all together they have been on the road 26 hrs only another two days drive.
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I heard someone on the radio saying that 'someone' should be there, handing out food, water and milk for people in the queues with children and that it was irresponsible of 'someone' not to do so.
I wonder if he ever considers that it might be irresponsible of him to take children into this situation, without having prepared and taken food / water / milk......or even having taken them at all.......even though ithe situation has been thoroughly signposted on radio / television / newspapers and no doubt 'social media' and many other web sites......
Write your comments here...Exactly Ian. This backlog situation had heen forecast and people should have made appropriate plans to feed an hydrate themselves throughout the long wait.. Its down to personal responsibility.
K
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I wonder who is picking up the bill for all the delays? I somehow Suspect it won't be the French......... Might also be useful to know if there are similar checks required (and ensuing delays) on the other border crossings twixt France and neighbouring countries.
If so fine, if not then the question needs to be asked why just the UK?Write your comments here...I think that as we are part we are not part of the schengen agreement we are the only ones who still have proper border checks. The French on our side, the British in Calais, I suspect it is less about the recent attacks and more
about shortages of staff and maybe a little attempt at deliberately slowing things down To make a point.I think it was the same weekend last year when the jams were horrendous going to Dover, I think is was the French ports dispute at at time.
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Sorry but a 12 hour delay at Britain's major Ferry port is a disgrace. No excuses, if they can't cope with the numbers then the ferry companies should not take the bookings. An hour or even two hours delay may be acceptable on the busiest weekend of the year but anything more is just very,very bad planning.
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The border control only had one person on at one point, taking 40 mins to check a coach through. ( BBC news ) Must have been awful to be in the queue. if it is the French holidays there is even more reason to plan ahead, every passport booth should be full,
there are no excuses, I suspect it's the French deliberately causing this yet again. We decided to stay in the uk this year after lasts years debacle en route to Calais due to the french industrial action and the actions of the economic migrants.in future we will use other ports.
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Sorry but a 12 hour delay at Britain's major Ferry port is a disgrace. No excuses, if they can't cope with the numbers then the ferry companies should not take the bookings. An hour or even two hours delay may be acceptable on the busiest weekend of the
year but anything more is just very,very bad planning.It seems as if it is the French authorities that are the problem not the ferry companies. They are victims of the situation as much as the passengers.
Write your comments here...Not blaming the ferry companies however most people travelling at the weekend would have a booking therefore the auutorities would know exactly the numbers travelling and should plan accordingly.
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On our last return from France, in early June, we had long delays at security at Calais. This was at British passport control, before actual check-in, and every vehicle was being stopped, boots and roofboxes opened, the driver questioned. Quite
a few vehicles were singled out for a full search with everything being taken out of the car. We only waited an hour, on an off peak day in low season, but there was only one manned booth and I imagine those travelling out now could well face very long delays
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It is happening on several borders on mainland europe there have been two hour delays on border between Austria and Germany for a while ,it is nothing to do with brexit, it is govenments waking up to the fact that the Schengan agreement did not work
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It's Brexit in action. The end of free movement within the EU. Some of you actually voted for it, and are finding out what it means.
Going out from Newhaven to Dieppe last night no problems at all. Straight on. And 20% discount for being over 60
You get a nicer sort of person at Newhaven
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And get used to spending a lot more, we spend approx £4700 a year in Euros or we did before the pound collapsed.
The pound hasn't collapsed vs the Euro. I got Euros for 85p last week which is not unusual. A few years ago it was nearly one for one when I was in France.
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Presumably they've also staffed border crossings on the mainland too. Many of which have been open and completely uncontrolled. The one from France into Belgium near Dunkirk has always been deserted and the kiosks and buildings virtually derelict whenever I've passed through. Only needed bunches of tumbleweed blowing down the road.
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It's the French job protection philosophy.
Some years ago I was teasing the lady about the long delay whilst waiting to buy stamps in a small town Bureau de Poste when she was chatting with everyone about 'the price of fish' and the spot on her baby's bum etc. She winked and said:
"All the while I have a queue I have a job".
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I heard someone on the radio saying that 'someone' should be there, handing out food, water and milk for people in the queues with children and that it was irresponsible of 'someone' not to do so.
I wonder if he ever considers that it might be irresponsible of him to take children into this situation, without having prepared and taken food / water / milk......or even having taken them at all.......even though ithe situation has been thoroughly signposted on radio / television / newspapers and no doubt 'social media' and many other web sites......
Write your comments here...Ian H As a mother I would never make a journey however long or short without extra food, drink, games,blankets and a disposable toilet etc just in case ,Why should people expect others to provide what they have failed to , expectations are killers........SG2
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Sorry but a 12 hour delay at Britain's major Ferry port is a disgrace. No excuses, if they can't cope with the numbers then the ferry companies should not take the bookings. An hour or even two hours delay may be acceptable on the busiest weekend of the
year but anything more is just very,very bad planning.It seems as if it is the French authorities that are the problem not the ferry companies. They are victims of the situation as much as the passengers.
Write your comments here...Not blaming the ferry companies however most people travelling at the weekend would have a booking therefore the auutorities would know exactly the numbers travelling and should plan accordingly.
Write your comments here...Kayak, it is a bit like a doctor's appointment, you have a time but do you know how serious the condition of the patient in front of you is? Some can be serious some not.You don't know what small discrepancy in the paperwork of
the cars in front of you can cause a hold up to check add this small amount of time to the thousands of passport/visas being checked and it all adds up.The French customs in Dover had 1 person checking a coach with over 40 passengers, this takes time, Patience
is needed or take a serious look at your time for your journey. SG20 -
For anyone who wants to top up with food and fuel ,come off junc 9 of the M20 and use the sainsburys ,no height barrier in to the car park , plenty of room for M/H's and caravans
3rd exit from the roundabout up the duel carriageway and first exit the on the left
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For anyone who wants to top up with food and fuel ,come off junc 9 of the M20 and use the sainsburys ,no height barrier in to the car park , plenty of room for M/H's and caravans
3rd exit from the roundabout up the duel carriageway and first exit the on the left
HD, good helpful post, it's good to see someone trying to help as opposed to belittle with negativity. My heart goes out to those caught up in this nightmare. We are all clever with hindsight. Good one HD
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I think it would be far better to use this thread to try and help and give advice to those members who are using or are going to use the port over the next few days rather than trying to blame other people , it's happening ,so let's deal with it as best
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Sorry but a 12 hour delay at Britain's major Ferry port is a disgrace. No excuses, if they can't cope with the numbers then the ferry companies should not take the bookings. An hour or even two hours delay may be acceptable on the busiest weekend of the year but anything more is just very,very bad planning.
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I agree with your sentiment, MT, but hasn't this more to do with anti terrorism security than Brexit? It's a pain for those caught up in the delays but it is for their own protection in the long term.
Good for those like HD who are offering support in the only way they can - local knowledge is king.
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For goodness sake. If you are going to blame anybody for delays in travelling to France -----Blame the terrorists who have been carrying out shocking atrocities in that fine country.
Of course France has a right to tighten up its security at its borders. Any country which didnt would be negligent.
That travellers did not forsee those delays is nobodys fault but their own. It was predicted by many authorities days in advance.
People should therefore, having been pre warned, have made alternative travel arrangements including destinations. They should have made sure that they carried food and drinks to sustain them during any delay.
K
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That travellers did not forsee those delays is nobodys fault but their own. It was predicted by many authorities days in advance.
People should therefore, having been pre warned, have made alternative travel arrangements including destinations.
What did you have in mind K. Unlikely to be covered by insurance and many will have spent several hundred pounds on the crossing. Are you expecting them to pay for another crossing, say from Portsmouth. Which given it is the busiest time of the year, they
are unlikely to get in any event.0
