Overnight stop for Switzerland

Runrig
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We are spending three weeks in Switzerland & Luxembourg in the school holidays.

I have booked a municipal site for an overnight stop in Obernai near Strasbourg, where I need to arrive before 18:00. Google maps shows 360 miles from Hull-Zeebrugge ferry via Brussels, Lux, Metz

 Anyone have any experience of this route ?

 Am I being too ambitious ?

 Any comments appreciated. 

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  • Fysherman
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    edited June 2016 #2

    A perfectly valid route but you wil be tired by the time you get to Strasbourg. We used to do Zeebrugge to Interlaken in a day but that was when we were much younger.

    A good alternative is the site at Metz near the river. No need to book.

    If you are planning a stop at the Aire de Berchem for cheap fuel  in Lux, it's a bit of a nightmare for a caravan outfit.

  • MichaelT
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    edited June 2016 #3

    When towing if we stick to motorways we average 50mph over teh day including stops for tea and lunch etc.  So 360 miles would be about 7 hours.  Obviuosly it depends on your driving speed, traffic etc. but it always worked for us travelling at about 60-65mph
    on a clear motorway.

  • Fysherman
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    edited June 2016 #4

    Belgian roads are a bit rubbish, which is why it is known as "bumpy belgium" and in France, the speed limit on a motorway is now 56mph for a car/caravan of a typical size.

  • eurortraveller
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    edited June 2016 #5

    Runrig, See how you feel. If you want to stop sooner then get the site guide out of the car door pocket and do that - then phone Obernai and tell them you aren't coming.  Take care. 

  • hitchglitch
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    edited June 2016 #6

    We have stayed there many times. Short walk into Obernai. 

    Best to avoid Strasbourg at peak times. After Metz, cut the corner off by going through Saverne to Obernai. It's a slower route but no traffic. 

  • Runrig
    Runrig Forum Participant Posts: 186
    edited June 2016 #7

    Runrig, See how you feel. If you want to stop sooner then get the site guide out of the car door pocket and do that - then phone Obernai and tell them you aren't coming.  Take care. 

    Yup, I will do exactly that, I have a couple of contingencies in mind.

    Thanks

  • Runrig
    Runrig Forum Participant Posts: 186
    edited June 2016 #8

    We have stayed there many times. Short walk into Obernai. 

    Best to avoid Strasbourg at peak times. After Metz, cut the corner off by going through Saverne to Obernai. It's a slower route but no traffic. 

    Yup, clocked that one.

    Thanks for the confirmation, appreciated

  • Marsker
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    edited June 2016 #9

    Back to your original question, it depends on the day  of the week. If your journey is at a weekend, particularly Sunday, it can be quite a bit quicker. We've usually timed it to get the Saturday night ferry (though to be honest, recently we've tended to
    favour Rotterdam over Zeebrugge as the arrival is earlier and the difference to Brussels is only 27 miles). Last couple of trips we've made it to Les Portes des Alsace at Saverne by about 17:00 which is in both ACSI and Camping Cheques.

    A bit nearer is Le Brabois in Nancy, which is handy for the motorway and the road from there to Colmar past San Dié and over the Col du Bonhomme is perfectly good with a caravan, we've done it a few times. Don't know where you're going in Switzerland, but
    Nancy to Interlaken is a comfortable day's journey.

    Don't be put off by Fysherman, motorways in Belgium have improved. They're not as good as the Péage in France but at least as good as, if not better than, UK motorways.

  • DJG
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    edited June 2016 #10

    When towing if we stick to motorways we average 50mph over teh day including stops for tea and lunch etc.  So 360 miles would be about 7 hours.  Obviuosly it depends on your driving speed, traffic etc. but it always worked for us travelling at about 60-65mph
    on a clear motorway.

    Remember that the speed limit is 50mph in Switzerland. Paid €90 to a very nice policeman to find that out!!!

  • Fysherman
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    edited June 2016 #11

    Back to your original question, it depends on the day  of the week. If your journey is at a weekend, particularly Sunday, it can be quite a bit quicker. We've usually timed it to get the Saturday night ferry (though to be honest, recently we've tended to favour Rotterdam over Zeebrugge as the arrival is earlier and the difference to Brussels is only 27 miles). Last couple of trips we've made it to Les Portes des Alsace at Saverne by about 17:00 which is in both ACSI and Camping Cheques.

    A bit nearer is Le Brabois in Nancy, which is handy for the motorway and the road from there to Colmar past San Dié and over the Col du Bonhomme is perfectly good with a caravan, we've done it a few times. Don't know where you're going in Switzerland, but Nancy to Interlaken is a comfortable day's journey.

    Don't be put off by Fysherman, motorways in Belgium have improved. They're not as good as the Péage in France but at least as good as, if not better than, UK motorways.

    I wasn't trying to put any one off. Just stating a fact that anyone with any real experience would confirm 

    Belgium has had bumpy roads since I first traversed them in the early 1970's and they were still bumpy the last time I was there in April. 

    I was trying to help but as usual on this forum someone has to contradict. 

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  • Fysherman
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    edited June 2016 #13

    Exactly David. I have been doing this route for donkeys and was the route the OP was asking about and the route I was trying to help him with. 

    I never said don't use it or tried to put him off. Sometimes I wonder if it's worth posting when things get twisted like this. 

    Hey Ho,such is life on CT

  • DJG
    DJG Forum Participant Posts: 277
    edited June 2016 #14

    Belgiums motorways are not great but not so bad as to be worth paying french tolls to avoid , travelling from Zeebrugge  we would head for Luxembourg and onwards to Alsace.

    I think that the cost is about the same as the extra cost of the ferry to Zeebrugge will offset the cost of tolls useing the motorway from Calais. It is cloudy hear in Croatia so I'm inside the van and a little bored but not too board as to go into fine
    detail on the costs. I'm sure there is a expert out there who can work out if you save a pound or two.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited June 2016 #15

    I've not found Belgian roads a problem. Certainly no worse than UK ones.

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  • hitchglitch
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    edited June 2016 #17

    About three years back I started a thread called "Bumpy Belgium". This was after going Calais then Namur, crossing into France near Metz. There were also extensive road works on the motorways so they may have improved,however, OH insisted that we never go
    that route again!

    Anecdotal evidence from this forum suggests that the Brussels route is better. 

  • Watendlath
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    edited June 2016 #18

    A perfectly valid route but you wil be tired by the time you get to Strasbourg. We used to do Zeebrugge to Interlaken in a day but that was when we were much younger.

    A good alternative is the site at Metz near the river. No need to book.

    If you are planning a stop at the Aire de Berchem for cheap fuel  in Lux, it's a bit of a nightmare for a caravan outfit.

    When we stayed at Metz they were turning outfits away by 6pm. We had booked and got on but for peace of mind I certainly would again if staying there, however the site is more than a bit stretched in season.

  • Fysherman
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    edited June 2016 #19

    Sorry but anyone travelling in peak season who is still looking for a campsite at 18.00 is asking for problems. Stop earlier then you don't need to book