Camping Cheque Dropout sites for 2016

ValDa
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I've just heard from 'Archie' (of Archie's Camping) that he now has the corrected list of Camping Cheque sites for 2016. There are now just 591 sites - 99 sites have dropped out, and some of these are still listed in the guide book.   Some of these
are lovely sites such as Les Ranchisses in the Ardeche, Les Fontaines at Pernes les Fontaines, and many other real favourites. There are eight new sites. 




I fear this is bad news for the Camping Cheques scheme, and indicates that there is a big problem with them retaining sites.



The correct information will be in the next download of Archie's Camping in a week or so - but here's the list of dropout sites:

 

AT     Alpencamp - Kotschach Mauthen (01/01-31/12) 

AT     Hofer - Zell im Zillertal (01/01-31/12)

BE     De Chenefleur - Tintigny (01/04-30/09) 

BE     Parc La Clusure - Bure-Tellin (01/01-31/12)

BE     Spa d'Or - Sart-lez-Spa (12/04-26/10) 

DE     Max 1 - Egglfing-Bad Fussing (01/01-31/12) 

DE     Freizeitinsel - Bad Abbach (16/03-31/10) 

DE     Freizeitzentrum Sagmuhle - Trippstadt (01/01-31/10) 

DE     Eifel Prumtal - Waxweiler (15/03-31/10) 

DE     Augstfelde Vierer See - Augstfelde-Plon (01/04-25/10)

DK     Bisserup - Bisserup (28/02-18/10)

EE     Lepanina - Kabli [<51] (01/05-31/08) 

ES     Cabopino 2a - Marbella (01/01-31/12)

ES     Pueblo Blanco - Olvera (01/01-31/12) 

ES     La Manga - La Manga del Mar Menor (Murcia) (01/01-31/12) 

ES     Sierra De Maria - Maria (01/01-31/12)

ES     Marjal Costa Blanca Eco - Crevillente (01/01-31/12) 

ES     El Mirador De Cabaneros - Horcajo De Los Montes (01/01-31/12) 

ES     Altomira - Navajas (Castellon) (01/01-31/12) 

ES     La Torre del Sol 1a - Montroig del Camp (15/03-31/10) 

ES     Vilanova Park - Vilanova i la Geltru (Barcelona) (01/01-31/12) 

ES     Repos del Pedraforca - Saldes (01/01-31/12) 

ES     Vall de Camprodon - Camprodon (01/01-23/12) 

ES     Boltana - Boltana (Huesca) (01/01-31/12) 

ES     Zarautz 2a - Zarautz (01/01-31/12) 

FR     Le Clos de la Grangette - Serignan (34) (14/03-14/10)

FR     Berrua*** - Bidart (01/04-20/09) 

FR     Antipolis**** - Antibes (01/04-20/09) 

FR     Naturist - Messidor - Le Puy Sainte Reparade (13) (01/04-16/09)

FR     Le Rupe** - Toulouse (01/01-31/12) 

FR     Les Fontaines - Pernes les Fontaines (84) (28/03-19/10) 

FR     L'Epi Bleu - Banon (4) (19/04-30/09) 

FR     L'Hippocampe**** - Volonne (4) (01/05-30/09)

FR     Les Princes d'Orange**** - Orpierre (5) (01/04-31/10) 

FR     Les Ranchisses - Largentiere (7) (12/04-21/09) 

FR     La Paille Basse**** - Souillac (15/05-15/09)

FR     Le Petit Bois*** - Ruynes-en-Margeride (01/05-15/09) 

FR     Naturist - Euronat - Grayan l'Hopital (33) (04/04-01/11)

FR     Indigo Royat - Royat (63) (29/04-31/10) 

FR     Indigo Lyon**** - Dardilly (69) (01/01-31/12) 

FR     Le Madrid*** - Rumilly (74) (01/04-25/10) 

FR     Les Portes du Beaujolais - Anse (69) (01/03-31/10)

FR     La Pergola - Marigny (39) (08/05-06/09) 

FR     Municipal Le Miroir - Les Hopitaux Neufs (25) (01/11-31/03-01/05-30/09)

FR     Le Manoir de Bezolle - Saint Pereuse (58)

FR     l'Etang du Merle - Crux la Ville (58) (07/04-26/10)

FR     Le Petit Port**** - Nantes (44) (23/02-31/12) 

FR     Le Chantepie - Saint-Hilaire-Saint-Florent (49) (26/04-13/09)

FR     La Roseraie - La Baule (44) (05/04-28/09) 

FR     Les Plages de Loire - Rochefort sur Loire (49) (15/04-05/11) 

FR     Les Ballastieres - Champagney (70) (01/04-31/10) 

FR     Les Hortensias - Loctudy (29) (01/04-26/09)

FR     Le Ty Nadan - Arzano-Locunole (29) (01/05-01/09) 

FR     Merlin l'Enchanteur - Loyat (56) (01/01-31/12)

FR     Emeraude - Saint Briac sur Mer (35) (01/04-30/09) 

FR     International de Jablines*** - Jablines (01/04-31/10)

FR     L'Escapade - Cahagnolles (14) (01/04-15/10) 

FR     Les Hautes Coutures - Benouville (14) (01/04-31/10) 

FR     La Foret - Jumieges (76) (11/04-25/10) 

FR     Le Ridin *** - Le Crotoy (80) (01/04-30/09)

HR     Kamp Lupis - Loviste [<51] (15/04-15/10) 

HR     Viter - Zaostrog (01/04-31/10)

HR     Stobrec Split - Split (01/01-31/12)

HR     Solaris**** - Sibenik (15/03-15/10) 

HR     Nordsee - Pakostane (01/03-30/11)

HU     Naturist - Levendula Camp - Balatonakali (08/05-06/09)

HU     Balatontourist Autos - Zamardi (15/05-31/08) 

IT     Scarabeo - Punta Braccetto-Santa Croce Camerina (RG) [<51] (01/01-31/12) 

IT     Sabbiadoro - Avola (01/01-31/12)

IT     La Focetta Sicula - Forza d'Agro (01/01-31/12) 

IT     Sambalon - Zambrone-Vibo Valentia (30/05-04/10) 

IT     Capo Ferrato - Castiadas (01/04-01/11)

IT     Punta Alice - Ciro Marina (01/01-31/12) 

IT     S'Ena Arrubia - Arborea (Oristano) (19/04-30/09)

IT     Riva di Ugento - Ugento (LE) (16/05-30/09) 

IT     Orri - Tortoli (01/05-20/09)

IT     Baia di Gallipoli - Gallipoli (01/04-15/09)

IT     Mulino d'Acqua - Otranto (01/05-13/09) 

IT     Cala dei Ginepri - Ostuni (BR) (03/05-13/09)

IT     Capo d'Orso - Palau (21/04-26/09) 

IT     Isola dei Gabbiani - Porto Pollo (01/04-31/10)

IT     Costa d'Argento - Capalbio (01/04-30/09) 

IT     Eurcamping - **** - Roseto d. Abruzzi (01/05-25/10)

IT     Cieloverde - Marina di Grosseto (16/05-20/09) 

IT     Le Calanchiole - Capoliveri (LI) (16/04-18/10) 

IT     Villaggio Italgest - Sant'Arcangelo - Magione (01/04-30/09)

IT     Delle Rose *** - Gatteo Mare (25/04-15/09) 

IT     Oasi - Chioggia (27/03-27/09) 

IT     San Francesco**** - Desenzano del Garda (01/04-30/09) 

IT     Cisano-San Vito - Cisano di Bardolino (01/04-30/09) 

IT     Lago di Tenno - Tenno (01/04-30/09) 

IT     Cevedale - Fucine di Ossana (TN) (01/01-31/12) 

NL     Koningshof - Rijnsburg (15/03-31/10) 

NL     De Noordduinen - Katwijk (01/01-31/12) 

NL     De Wildhoeve - Emst (01/04-30/09) 

NL     De Bongerd - Tuitjenhorn (04/04-28/09)

NO     Sorlandet - Sandnes-Risor (01/01-31/12)

PT     Angeiras - Lavra (01/01-31/12) 

RO     Doua Lumi - Blajel [<51] (27/03-26/10) 



And here are the new sites:



FR     Val Roma Park** - Maureillas Las Illas

FR     Parc Le Peyrolais - Saint Julien de Peyrolas (30)

FR     Le Bergougne - Rives (47)

FR     Le Paradis - Talmont Saint Hilaire (85)

IT     Poseidon Beach (only campers) - San Salvo Marina

IT     Maximum *** - Miramare-Rimini

IT     Italia*** - Viserba

IT     Romea - Ravenna

Comments

  • DavidKlyne
    DavidKlyne Club Member Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭
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    edited February 2016 #2

    Some well known sites in France have dropped out. 

    David

  • ValDa
    ValDa Forum Participant Posts: 3,004 ✭✭
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    edited February 2016 #3

    And some of the Spanish ones have been in the scheme since the beginning!

  • allanandjean
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    edited February 2016 #4

    We stayed at Parc Clusure on our first ever foreign trip, and twice more since, and our last all cheques holiday was at Vilanova in 2014. Now we only need to get three to access the ITX fares should still not be a problem using them up so keeping fingers
    crossed that ITX continues.

  • Tammygirl
    Tammygirl Club Member Posts: 7,957 ✭✭✭
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    edited February 2016 #5

    Thanks for this ValDa, we haven't bought anymore this year and never got any freebies on the ferries either but do still have about 4 on the Silver card, don't think we will have any problem using them, its a shame so many are dropping out.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited February 2016 #6

    Do we know whether the sites that have left the Camping Cheque scheme are now with ACSI or have they gone independent?

    David

  • Billyc
    Billyc Forum Participant Posts: 64
    edited February 2016 #7

    Hi David,

    Les Ranchisses moved to Sunelia two years ago and have been warning regulars of this impending change since then.   I don't know much about Sunelia except that they only sponsor 31 sites, but that looks as it might grow.    They do offer €100 & €200 rebates
    if the sun does not shine!

    BillC

  • royandsharont
    royandsharont Forum Participant Posts: 735
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    edited February 2016 #8

    Around 20% drop out is very significant! Looks that it may have some problems. Now we can catch the NSF crossing instead of the tunnel and get the cheaper fares with cheques it looks like we shall probably not get much benefit. Regards, Roy

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  • harryb
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    edited February 2016 #10

    Some really big well established sites on that list, many of which I have been to in the past. Looking at some of the new CC sites they don't seem as up market as a lot that have been lost. Is the company clutching at straws to maintain it's existence. Time
    will tell. Personally I think it's now at the top of the slippery slope.

  • harryb
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    edited February 2016 #11

    Is the total number of sites accurate or is it overstated. 

    I've just been doing a search for sites for this year and notice a site we stayed at a few years ago, recommended by Val,, Domaine de la Faurie just off the A20, is showing on the CC web site but on the camp site web site it shows the ACSI logo but not CC
    logo. 

    I remember when we stayed there the owner was saying they were thinking of pulling out of the CC scheme.

  • VolvoV70
    VolvoV70 Forum Participant Posts: 78
    edited February 2016 #12

    I feel a bit ambivalent about the fall in the number of Camping Cheque sites.

    On the one hand, I feel that it serves the organisation right. They have been ripping us and the sites off for far too long. I have long been a critic of the organisation for all the “extra”
    charges they impose.  (Why did The Caravan Club purchase the Alan Rogers organisation? But that’s another story).  Now, so far as I can tell, they have reduced the extortionate fixed sum to be paid by the sites – perhaps in an effort to rescue the scheme from
    oblivion at the hands of ACSI – leaving us to still be ripped off at the sterling price of cheques in the UK.

    On the other hand, (and like Another David) I continue to benefit from ITX fares that purchasing cheques enables and we too have found sites now amongst our favourites as a result of using
    cheques.

  • eurortraveller
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    edited February 2016 #13

    Domaine de Faurie is a pretty campsite, Harry, and only charges me £15 a night if I go there and pay them with real money. With prices like that I can't honestly be bothered with buying bits of paper from Camping Cheques on the off chance that I might use them - or might still have them in my wallet when I get home. I would never actually pay for Cheques.

  • ValDa
    ValDa Forum Participant Posts: 3,004 ✭✭
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    edited February 2016 #14

    There is some confusion about Camping Cheques and the organisation behind it.  Really in this country the Alan Rogers/Caravan Club act as 'agents' to sell the cheques, and I don't think they have any input into the core business or operating policies - except to set the price we pay in this country!

    The list of sites (591) was correct a week or two ago - and that information came drectly from a source at Camping Cheques (France).  However, as we found to our cost last year, two sites which were actually in the scheme, still on the website and in the guide, refused to accept our cheques, but did offer us a decent rate as an alternative.  

    Sadly, like Volvoman, I am a bit ambivalent.  I promoted Camping Cheques for so long, and we did have some fantastic inexpensive holidays with our children on some lovely sites.  We actually helped out on the Camping Cheques stand at the NEC for several years, before it was 'taken over' by the Alan Rogers organisation, and met some lovely site owners.  This was in the days when a lot of the Les Castels site owners were strongly backing the concept of Camping Cheques and did all they could to promote low season visits to their sites.

    Sadly Camping Cheques is now just one part of a large 'holiday consortium' and no longer operated for the benefit of site owners trying to attract more business.

    As far as the position of Domaine de la Faurie is concerned - not all sites which accept Camping Cheques do display the logo on their website.  I could point out several others which don't.

     

  • InaD
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    edited February 2016 #15

    Over the last few years some long-established CC sites have dropped out of the scheme.  Camping Neptune for one has gone to "the other side" and this year it's the same for Camping La Ferme des Aulnes, another site which always accepted CCs, they too have
    gone to ACSI.

    The number of sites accepting CCs we've stayed on and liked has dropped to a couple now, although we never let that dictate to us where we stay in the past.  I do think ACSI is the better scheme though, with no upfront charges and no admin costs, and
    I don't think I'm by myself, so some of those ex-CC sites should do quite well now they're in the ACSI scheme.

  • royandsharont
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    edited February 2016 #16

    Thanks David, hopefully I too will find them a benefit in the future now we can avail ourselves of them.

    I suspect there must be something in the differences between ACSI & CC for the site owners because it appears those who had both are the ones that no longer do CC rather than the other way around. I have not made a study of that but dredging my mind, which
    is harder these days, I seem to recall this has been happening. Regards, Roy

  • ValDa
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    edited February 2016 #17

    Years ago, at the Les Cerisiers du Jaur site, where we used to stay four times a year after picking up and before dropping off our caravan, we had a long chats with the owner.  He was very grateful to Camping Cheques in the beginning for introducing lots of new visitors to what was then a newly opened refurbished site.  A couple of years later and he'd become very disillusioned because he'd been approached by ACSI and wanted to sign up with them as well, but Camping Cheques wouldn't permit it - telling him that if he did he would no longer be in the Camping Cheques guide.  He called their bluff, and found that he got even more new clients using ACSI - and what's more they paid in cash so he wasn't waiting for his income until the end of the season.

    I think that's why Camping Cheques, ultimately, failed - the concept of paper vouchers (or even electronic ones) which are not exchanged until months later is just not on! The ACSI concept of a one off payment for the guide, and then payment directly to the site is a much better one - and their 'fee' to the site is much less.  If Camping Cheque had adopted that model when they introduced their Silver Card (ie spend £10 or £15 to buy the card and guide - but thereafter pay in cash) they may have salvaged much of their business.  Instead more and more site owners have become disgruntled and dropped out of the scheme.

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  • ValDa
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    edited February 2016 #19

    They did, David, because so many were threatening the same thing - the Les Cerisiers site managed to hang on for another couple of years, accepting both.  I think as soon as sites are in both schemes they realise how much better the ACSI Card works for them.

  • allanandjean
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    edited February 2016 #20

    This is a link to a document that is avilable via the kawan website and it shows that for cheques with a face value of €16 the site receives €11.20. They also have to pay to become members but it must still benefit some as there are still a lot of sites.

    http://pro.kawan-group.eu/front/pdf/ArticleFile-33.pdf

    As stated by others for us the reason we still get cheques is to obtain ITX fares and the savings,over £200 this year,that this brings so hope they do continue and ITX fares stay.

    Many years ago we stayed at Chateau Epervierre which was owned by the guy, Christophe Gay, who had the idea that site owners needed to do more to promote their sites,as Val described above, and Camping Cheques camre into being. This is not the case anymore and they exist as a pure business to make a profit as opposed to a marketing tool for like minded site owners.