Caravan Sat Nav - recommendations please

Bessytourer
Bessytourer Forum Participant Posts: 16

Hi all,

I am looking to invest in a good quality, reliable Sat-Nav for use across Europe (to supplement my paper maps and guide books!)

There are many reviews online, but they vary widely..

Can anyone recommend one please?



Thanks

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  • rogher
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    edited January 2016 #2

    The problem with reviews is that reviewers confuse fact with opinion, and often don’t display much depth of experience.

    In looking for a SatNav, what is important to you?

  • peedee
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    edited January 2016 #3

    There is plenty of discussion on this subject in the Parts and Accessories forum as well in other areas. If you do a search on "sat navs and Club Togther" using google it will bring a few up. There is one

    >here<

    peedee

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  • Steve3
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    edited January 2016 #5

    Absolutely agree with Deleted User User  …. Whilst I have a built in sat nav in my present tug (BMW X3) I also have a stand-alone Garmin with a nice big screen.  I would suggest Tom Tom, Garmin are probably the two main players - and then it comes down to a matter of personal preference.

    Most will get you from A to B, most times trouble-free and dare I say on time.

    However; with technology moving at the pace it is we must not leave out the latest smartphones respective smartphone apps – that from my understanding work brilliantly even when you can’t get a 3G or 4G signal.

    And why do I have both? – having a new business car every 4 years you lose all you locations every 4 years  – where with my Garmin you just pick it up and move it to your next tug.

    I hear people cry but you can transfer data from one sat nav to another – whilst in principle yes this is very true - in practice this is not always the case – a while ago I had to have an engine management upgrade – result – sat nav total wipe out – perhaps the down side of modern technology!!

  • Bluepig15
    Bluepig15 Forum Participant Posts: 5
    edited January 2016 #6

    Hi, we spent October and November driving down through France to Spain and Portugal and relied on our Snooper Ventura which has ACSI and Alan Rogers sites incorporated in its data bank as well as search facilities for things like Points of Interest, GPS
    coordinates etc as well as the usual street addresses. It only let us down a couple of times when we came across a new road layout in Spain and some narrow streets in Portugal. However, you can key in the dimensions of your motorhome or caravan and it should
    select safe routes for you. With certain models there are free updates twice a year. Not cheap but worth a look.

  • Bluepig15
    Bluepig15 Forum Participant Posts: 5
    edited January 2016 #7

    Just an added thought - are you in ACSI? Worth it for the site info and discounts in low season.

  • Bessytourer
    Bessytourer Forum Participant Posts: 16
    edited January 2016 #8

    Thanks.. Really useful advice...

    Bluepig - Wasn;t sure about how user friendly the Snooper is - seen some poor reviews.. Do you have issues with freezing/slow response? Also, yes we are now members of ACSI!Happy

     

  • Billyc
    Billyc Forum Participant Posts: 64
    edited January 2016 #9

    Hi BT,

    I bought a TomTom Caravan model about two years ago when they first came on the market and took advantage of an offer via the C&CC.    It works well for me but I tend only to rely on the TT traffic app part.   I never trust a satnav for directions, but having driven around Europe for 40 years I now know my way around.

    The TT Caravan does take into consideration speed when towing so you get a pretty accurate eta.   I dont like the fact that the screen displays current speed for cars and not for towing a caravan, even though I have changed the intro' settings to say I will be towing.   TT could fix that easily.     The TT has a very simple easy read screen and brilliant traffic, in your face.  I have a new Volvo and the satnav traffic is rubbish.

    Hope you find one that suits you, happy touring...

    BillC 

  • rogher
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    edited January 2016 #10

    I could give a long list of things that Snooper does not do properly but, for all I know, the others might be the same. Much has changed since I used any other.

    Decide what is important to you and discard the ones that don’t meet the criteria.

  • Geejay
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    edited January 2016 #11

    See my review of the Caravan Club Avtex sat nav http://www.capitaloutdoors.co.uk/avtex-camper-premium-caravan-club-edition-sat-nav 
    I've been very impressed with it on our current trip to Spain.  One of the useful features is the lane guidance, both verbal and visual.

    But like all technology it isn't perfect, so take a road atlas as well, plot your route on the device in advance and check it out on the atlas.

  • Steve3
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    edited January 2016 #12

    We used to go to Spain, Italy other places on holiday before sat navs, I’m sure if push were to come to shove, most of us could still do it today and possibly enjoy it  - it might even be a little quicker on occasion!   

     

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  • rogher
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    edited January 2016 #14

    One advantage of Garmin products is that they work with both Mac and PC. Garmin’s ‘BaseCamp’ is good, once you’ve learned how to use it.

  • flatcoat
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    edited January 2016 #15

    If you have a smart phone or tablet I throroughly recommend Copilot. Cheap to buy (I think all EU mapping was about £30 including speed cameras) and has motorhome or HGV settings so easy to programme to suit towing. 

  • commeyras
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    edited January 2016 #16

    Just use a TomTom or Garmin and a map!  The map keeps my OH occupied!  Been all round Europe with no problems.  Get one that has free lifetime map updates with FULL Europe maps TomTom 500 or similar would suffice.

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  • Geejay
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    edited January 2016 #18

    a decent Tomtom (or perhaps a Garmin) and load your own poi files...

    dont get involved with any 'caravan club' or 'capital stores' stuff....just google to find out all the horror stories....

    If you haven't used it don't knock it.  I have, and as I said above the CC Avtex has been excellent.  Your comment is verging on the libellous.

  • iansoady
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    I used to use a Garmin but like others here I have moved over to CoPilot. Excellent mapping, very quick recalculation, choice of 3 routes (or drag & drop for even more choice), set your own speeds for different vehicle types etc. Even the pronunciation is better than the Garmin.

    You don't need mobile phone data as you load the maps from wifi then they're held on the phone.

    You can load your own POIs from a CSV file - eg Archie etc.

    I haven't yet used it with the caravan but after some very poor route suggestions from Garmin it can't be worse!

    It cost me around £20 for full Europe but that might have been a special offer. You can try it free for a week and the basic product (without turn by turn guidance) is totally free but just for one country.

    I use mine on a Motorola Android phone and am a satisfied customer. Add a cheap windscreen mount at less than £5 and you're all set.

  • IanBHawkes
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    edited January 2016 #20

    See my review of the Caravan Club Avtex sat nav http://www.capitaloutdoors.co.uk/avtex-camper-premium-caravan-club-edition-sat-nav 
    I've been very impressed with it on our current trip to Spain.  One of the useful features is the lane guidance, both verbal and visual.

    But like all technology it isn't perfect, so take a road atlas as well, plot your route on the device in advance and check it out on the atlas.

    Thank you GeeJay for that link, your review is very informative. I am seriously considering buying this satnav and welcome a review not based on telling me to buy a map.

  • Oldgirl and Staffy
    Oldgirl and Staffy Forum Participant Posts: 414
    edited January 2016 #21

    I've had sat navs since the late 90's when they were built like bricks (Garmin Streetpilot 2610).  Since then I have used a multitude of different makes and devices including a caravan dedicated one.    I can honestly say that some of the cheap programmes
    for tablet and smartphone are just as good as the specialised devices in my view.  Co-pilot has been mentioned.  Sygic and Nav II are others.  Like all sat navs, if you make sure that they are programmed for your size of vehicle then they all pretty much do
    the same.  However, there is a huge difference in price.  From around £22 for a good quality programme for your phone to over £300 for a dedicated device.  You pays your money and takes your choice.....

  • Oldgirl and Staffy
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    edited January 2016 #22

    PS:  The thing to remember is that when you buy a dedicated model you are paying for yet another computer.  That is why these are £300 as opposed to the software programmes that are so much cheaper.

  • hitchglitch
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    edited January 2016 #23

    I am a bit confused about using a tablet or smart phone. I have an iPad but with no SIM card and an iPhone 6 with no contract and I dont use the data connection only WiFi. I presume you need a network connection for Copilot etc.? Isn't that expensive to run? How do you pick up the GPS signals?

  • peedee
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    edited January 2016 #24

    I am a bit confused about using a tablet or smart phone. I have an iPad but with no SIM card and an iPhone 6 with no contract and I dont use the data connection only WiFi. I presume you need a network connection for Copilot etc.? Isn't that expensive to
    run? How do you pick up the GPS signals?

    You don't need a network connection to run Co-Pilot etc although with a network connection you can get enhanced services like traffic information. Your tablet or smart phone must have an inbuilt GPS for these to work otherwise you will need to purchase a
    seperate GPS device and connect it to your tablet or smartphone. This is best done using bluetooth.

    peedee

  • Oldgirl and Staffy
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    edited January 2016 #25

    I am a bit confused about using a tablet or smart phone. I have an iPad but with no SIM card and an iPhone 6 with no contract and I dont use the data connection only WiFi. I presume you need a network connection for Copilot etc.? Isn't that expensive to
    run? How do you pick up the GPS signals?

    ...You don't need a data connection to use sat nav on your phone.  You download the software when you have a WiFi connection and then you can use it like any other sat nav.  All phones these days have GPS so that ought to be no problem.    Try using

    this
    for starters and see how you get on.

  • hitchglitch
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    edited January 2016 #26

    Yes, I have seen Google Maps used as a navigator and it is very good, however, as I mentioned earlier it requires a data connection. In Europe this can be expensive so you need to purchase a package and take care not to exceed it. A friend of mine used it
    in the USA and the data package worked out cheaper than hiring a satnav with the hire car so it is worth considering.

  • Bessytourer
    Bessytourer Forum Participant Posts: 16
    edited January 2016 #27

    Thanks all,

    I have gone with the Co-Pilot option...

    - New Sumsung Tab 4 7inch Tablet - £99

    - Co-Pilot Full Europe app, with traffic etc - £26

    - 64GB micro SC card - £18

    - Mi-fi (mobile Wi-fi) - £30

    Total price c£170 - i.e. £100 less than the Tom-Tom / Garmin alternative, plus a whole load more functionality on top! I will let you knwo how I get on!!

  • Oldgirl and Staffy
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    edited January 2016 #28

    Yes, I have seen Google Maps used as a navigator and it is very good, however, as I mentioned earlier it requires a data connection. In Europe this can be expensive so you need to purchase a package and take care not to exceed it. A friend of mine used it
    in the USA and the data package worked out cheaper than hiring a satnav with the hire car so it is worth considering.

    ..Sorry, I ought to have explained my reason for recommending it.  It was so you could try it in the UK.  There are several good quality software programmes for android phones that don't need a data connection if you found you got along ok with Google maps
    in principle.

  • chasncath
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    edited January 2016 #29

    Thanks all,

    I have gone with the Co-Pilot option...

    - New Sumsung Tab 4 7inch Tablet - £99

    - Co-Pilot Full Europe app, with traffic etc - £26

    - 64GB micro SC card - £18

    - Mi-fi (mobile Wi-fi) - £30

    Total price c£170 - i.e. £100 less than the Tom-Tom / Garmin alternative, plus a whole load more functionality on top! I will let you knwo how I get on!!

    We have a Samsung Galaxy Tab3 with 8Gb memory plus 8Gb SD card. Do you know how much memory is required for the European maps? Note that you've fitted 64Gb. Tried the trial version and the free UK maps were in the hundreds of Mb - but it all got complicated
    so we uninstalled the app.

    We haven't got a satnav and have managed all these years, but everywhere roads signs to campsites are not what they were, and camping/hotel guides assume that you've got one!

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  • peedee
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    edited January 2016 #31

    We have a Samsung Galaxy Tab3 with 8Gb memory plus 8Gb SD card. Do you know how much memory is required for the European maps?

    You need just under 4Gb to store all of the European maps. Co-Pilot allows you to store your maps on an SD card.

    peedee