The death of the diesel?
So after today's news about air pollution is the diesel vehicle's days numbered?
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The price of hand-carts will be bound to rise.
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Always take what is written in the gutter press with a pinch of salt. And no paper is further into the gutter than the Guardian. --- There may be a case for limiting visitors to London with diesel vehicles, as that city is "Polution Central" already. ----The rest of the country should be OK.
Cheers K
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its not just the guardian, the rest of the popular press are reporting just the same. In fact the mutterings from Westminster itself are echoing this! Just out of interest, have you a news agency/news paper you do trust K? Huffington Post?
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its not just the guardian, the rest of the popular press are reporting just the same. In fact the mutterings from Westminster itself are echoing this! Just out of interest, have you a news agency/news paper you do trust K? Huffington Post?
I can't think of one Mickey. Believe nothing of what you read and only half of what you hear I was told!
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its not just the guardian, the rest of the popular press are reporting just the same. In fact the mutterings from Westminster itself are echoing this! Just out of interest, have you a news agency/news paper you do trust K? Huffington Post?
I can't think of one Mickey. Believe nothing of what you read and only half of what you hear I was told!
that's a bit problematic, somehow we have to be 'informed' heard or read, in our decision making process! The alternative is bliss ignorance and that's just plain daft!
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Well my boss better get a new fleet of ambulances as we are in central London all the time!
Only will need half a fleet as you won't need to transport all those afflicted with diseasel smoke any more.
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Another stupid ruling from a High Court judge who cannot see further than the end of their nose. This means that once again the cost of goods will increase as charges are passed onto the consumer and High Streets die as companies move out of town.
We have a reliable diesel vehicle and I do not see any point in getting into debt just to buy a vehicle that is capable of towing our twin axle caravan. Very few petrol vehicles are capable of towing a caravan with a MTPLM of 2000kg and remaining within
the 85% guidelines. Are we supposed to sell up just to please a couple of tree huggers? Our solution is to avoid these cities with congestion charges and spend our money elsewhere!0 -
Surfer you are being very disingenuous to the High Court Judge who is just applying the law of the land, it is the Government that is ignoring the law. Are we wrong to try and protect the health of our citizens?
David
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Surfer you are being very disingenuous to the High Court Judge who is just applying the law of the land, it is the Government that is ignoring the law. Are we wrong to try and protect the health of our citizens?
David
The judge lacks common sense and probably likes to see unemployed people walking around. Can you please point to these British laws regarding diesels and pollution targets?
BTW there is no definite and conclusive proof that diesels are linked and a direct cause of poor health. If so perhaps many of us should have been dead many years ago however once again the tree huggers have impsoed their ideals on the majority. Thanks.
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Assuming DVLA say I can drive, it means I shall have to visit my daughter in Putney in another vehicle.
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Assuming DVLA say I can drive, it means I shall have to visit my daughter in Putney in another vehicle.
Write your comments here...The DVLA are taking their time over this decision CY. Must be a bit of a worry.--- All the best, hope you get a decision soon.
Kennine.
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So after today's news about air pollution is the diesel vehicle's days numbered?
It seems that the rules will NOT apply to private vehicles so I apologise to the judge and hopefully a mod can remove the reference. See
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/improving-air-quality-in-cities0 -
Hubby has always had diesel for private and working vehicle's wouldn't have anything else,
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London is going to be very short of cabs.
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Despite all of the wry humour there may well be a problem looming here!
I am concerned about measures that an under pressure Chancellor might take to reduce Diesel ownership. The most likely could be higher fuel taxes on Diesel - difficult because of the fact that almost all HGV deliveries are done by diesel, and he will be
struggling to keep inflation down anyway.The more likely is restrictions on private Diesel car access to our towns & cities. That will ultimately affect the second hand values of our current vehicles, especially the larger 4x4's like mine. Not too much of a problem for me because after 6 years
mine is pretty low in value anyway. But it would/will probably discourage me from buying another diesel replacement now.BUT what alternatives are there, suitable for our way of life?
The Hybrids like the Mitsubishi are by all accounts I have read not suitable as tow cars. The ordinary petrol car engine has shrunk to little more than "Toy Car" status.
Who today builds a big powerful High Torque Petrol engine? I can't think of one outside of the RR & Bentley class?
This is potentially just as serious for the motorhomers, all of which are diesel as far as I know.
TF
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well I for one would be very happy to go back to horse power ( the 4 legged kind that is )
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As I have always avoided going into London for leisure pursuits like the plague. It wont bother me if I never take a vehicle into thst city.
During my working life I regularly was obliged to fly to London for meetings and presentations. Even although I stayed in good hotels, I have to say that I was not impressed by the city when out and about for a few beers in the evening.
So London, ban vehicles if you like, it wont bother me in the least.
Cheers K
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Perhaps worth mentioning that Germany has over 50 towns and cities where some sort of restriction is in place although in most cases it only applies to a central area. The restriction is based on Euro engine classification. Euro 1 for petrol and generally Euro 4 and above for Diesel. You have to display a sticker which costs about £5 for the life of the vehicle. Any vehicles below those classifications are just not allowed to enter the centres. I suppose it might be argued that public transport has better provision but I think that would equally apply to the larger cities in the UK. Engines are getting cleaner and perhaps going by the Euro number would be fairer?
David
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