The death of the diesel?

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  • tigerfish
    tigerfish Forum Participant Posts: 1,362
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    edited November 2016 #32

    DK, - Some very good points!  But shouldn't the leisure industry and our own organisations be pointing out to the manufacturers that if the diesel is to be phased out then someone will need to provide vehicles with engines and sufficient weight for us to
    continue our life style.  Ultimately the leisure industry will suffer if we no longer visit.

    TF

  • Surfer
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    edited November 2016 #33

    By the same token why should any one spend money to comply with a classification especially after the government encouraged disel ownership?  When you are retired it is very difficult to be able to buy a vehicle without getting into debt.

    I have no idea whether our 2005 Jeep is Euro 1, 2,3, 4 or 5 and don't particularly care either as there is no conclusive proof of a direct link between diesel fumes and your health.  Every day we get a new scare story that something is bad for our health
    and will cause us to die.  We are all going to die at some point in our lives and there is no option! 

  • huskydog
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    edited November 2016 #34

    Oh dear, no more diesel engines??, i have an old stationary steam engine (single cylinder) in the back of my garage ,may be i will have to work out how to fit it under the bonnet of my motorhomeSurprised

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited November 2016 #35

    DK, - Some very good points!  But shouldn't the leisure industry and our own organisations be pointing out to the manufacturers that if the diesel is to be phased out then someone will need to provide vehicles with engines and sufficient weight for us to continue our life style.  Ultimately the leisure industry will suffer if we no longer visit.

    TF

    The problem is TF is that caravanners and motorhomers represent a tiny, tiny monoriity of the manufacturers production so I don't see how what you suggest would actually work in practise. Clearly, in time, caravan manufacturers will have to produce more lightweight models but equally comsumers will have to accept that future caravans might not be as luxurious as perhaps they are now. Within ten years I am sure we will see more emission zones in large cities which prevent the worst poluting vehicles banned. In most instances that won't effect our hobby as I doubt many people would want to take their caravan into that city anyway. Visits will have to be made by public transport. Perhaps more worrying is that the government might be tempted to add extra tax to diesel fuel!

    David

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  • tigerfish
    tigerfish Forum Participant Posts: 1,362
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    edited November 2016 #37

    DK, But we need to make sure that our voice, - as faint as it might be, might just be heard by others. I simply cannot believe that the farmers, loggers, and other hard users are going to be happy that their big utilty vehicles will henforce  be fitted with 1600cc Toy engines!

    Someone has to make a stand!  Yes our voice alone might be too faint, but with others?

    TF

  • mickysf
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    edited November 2016 #38

    Which british cities ar being suggested as clean air zones?

     

  • tigerfish
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    edited November 2016 #39

    There was a list in yesterdays Times.  Bristol was on it.

    TF